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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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OfflineFilterhead462
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Ego death vs Ego dissolution * 1
    #23545964 - 08/16/16 04:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So based on my experiences with a number of different substances i feel there is two types of breaking down the ego

Ego death and Ego dissolution are essentially the same thing but the journey to the state is different. Ego death refers to dissolving the barriers in a destructive manner, this often feels as though one is dying or breaking down in a ferocious merciless destructive manner, this often produces feelings of fear, dread purely because in my experience is being forced to breakdown, it feels as though one is dragged into the experience and although one may surrender the ego will attempt to fight through emotion. Ego dissolution is quite the contrary to ego death, it feels as though consciousness is dissolved into a formless, infinite state of pure awareness with no attachment or barriers, there is no emotion involved and no resistance, it feels as though the ego doesn’t fight and allows itself to completely dissolve, the experiencer may feel in more control of this state and feel as though they are the one initiating the process rather than being dragged. Ego death may often feel more intense due to the accompanying emotional and often mental chaos whereas ego dissolution often feels calm, blissful, peaceful, silent and often is has the feeling of going home. Ego dissolution (IME) is a more understandable process, it is possible to understand the process and state better when this happens however ego death allows a user to experience mental death which is often accompanied by rebirth. Ego dissolution is climbing up the mountain whereas ego death is crashing into the mountain.


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Re: Ego death vs Ego dissolution [Re: Filterhead462]
    #23546105 - 08/16/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well said.
I wouldn't say ego death is like crashing into a mountain though but rather that ego dissolution is like taking a ski lift up the mountain and ego death is like climbing it physically. Regardless, you end up on top.


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Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
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Re: Ego death vs Ego dissolution [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23546696 - 08/16/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm my experience ego death and dissolution were the same thing, just when I experienced "ego death" I was more scared and I was also getting caught up more on bad thoughts of fear and anxiety, the reason being because I was frantically trying to hold onto whatever self I could and I was failing miserably which lead to bad thoughts, with ego dissolution I think I was just more experienced and I realize holding on is the worst thing you can do, there has been times when I started to experience ego death and the bad feelings accompanying it then I Sat back and let go and it was transformed into ego dissolution, I believe ego death/dissolution are related to as how someone would view a "bad or good trip" it's a trip either way it's just how you perceive it, and honestly preconceived notions about psychedelic experiences caused ego death for me at first, I thought completely losing your shit and your identity was something associated with a horrible trip and tried everything I could to reverse it and just went farther down the rabbit hole then later realized that it is just a part of the experience and that your more likely to have a bad trip or ego DEATH instead of dissolution when you're trying to hold on, like are you gonna have a more emotional break up if you let that person go because they don't love you anymore or are you gonna be more emotionally wrecked if you continually try to hold onto that person and what they were to you and try to fight for a love your not gonna get back, or are you gonna have worse emotions accepting someone's gone and died or convincing yourself that they're still live or trying to bring them back by constantly looking at pictures watching videos of them, when you don't let go and accept the inevitable there will naturally be more harsh emotions ya feel? Sorry for the novel, really talkative today


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