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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: 404]
    #23554395 - 08/18/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Do you really think that tailgating is the same thing as internet trolling? :facepalm:

Do those tailgaters know you? Do they wait for you, and you specifically, to get on the freeway so can they line up their friends to pursue you and box you in, just to get a rise out of you?

IMO trolling often bears more of a resemblance to real-life behaviors such as stalking or bullying than to harmless douchiness like tailgating.


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23554403 - 08/18/16 06:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you cant see the similarities in what i presented to you, or see the need to take responsibility for your actions, I don't know what to tell you. and for the record, yes, i have dealt with local drivers like that - some have tried forcing me off the road when they saw me time after time. several times


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: 404] * 1
    #23554464 - 08/18/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

She is just pointing out that a meltdown by definition is a loss of control. So you can't control it, because if you could it wouldn't be a meltdown at all. Meltdown means you lost control of yourself, and by definition you can't control a loss on control , not in the moment anyways.

What you are saying meanwhile is that you are still fully responsible for your loss of control and the onus is on you to build your self control and work on your anger management skills so that next time you won't meltdown. You are responsible for your own reactions.

You are both right, and what you are saying is not mutually exclusive .

A melt down is a loss of control. And if it's your meltdown, you are responsible for it.


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23554590 - 08/18/16 07:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Actually, I'm trying to make reference to the malice aforethought represented by many acts of trolling and to provide a counterpoint to the thread's implicit notion that trolling is necessarily defensible in terms of moral responsibility.


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23554660 - 08/18/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:doge: such SJW many PC very trigger


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: 404]
    #23554684 - 08/18/16 07:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Is it "PC" to say that stalking and harassment are crimes for which responsibility should fall upon the perpetrator and not the victim?


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23554695 - 08/18/16 07:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No, you're getting really tedious with this though. Let me know when you can own up and take responsibility for your actions regarding emotional outbursts you failed to control. the emotion is one thing, and i can understand as much, but your actions are another - last time i'm going to spell it out for you.


and actually reading what you said - trolling is one thing, stalking is another. please make the distinction between the two.


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: 404]
    #23554709 - 08/18/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's my point. The distinction is often not clear.


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Re: Meltdowns. [Re: Sheekle]
    #23555156 - 08/18/16 09:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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you threaten to leave WCA all the time moonshoe don't kid yourself





Not in recent years. The last time I said anything about leaving WCA was when I was on a road trip to BC for my friend's wedding, and that was years ago.


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