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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante] * 1
    #23548885 - 08/17/16 03:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure I buy the sugar makes you fat thing. Just based on myself. I'm 6'2" and 175lbs and 34. I consume so much sugar on average it's ridiculous.
I eat healthy food too but I fucking love my candy and sweet stuff. Pretty much been that way for most of my life..
I don't really ever gain a pound. I just have a crazy ass metabolism.... if I eat too much sugar at night I usually pay for it by sweating it all out while I sleep. But I've always been thin.
Different biochemistry and whatnot.. different diets... there's so many variables when it comes to human beings.. I don't think there's any one-size fits all diet


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Shroomism]
    #23548895 - 08/17/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Urrgh... a while ago, I bought this huge box of sour straws. The fucking thing had 150 servings in it and I killed it in two weeks. Never again. I felt like such utter shit for those entire two weeks. By the end of it I wasn't sure if I would ever feel normal again. :argh:


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23548909 - 08/17/16 03:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'd probably get stoned and kill that in 3 days.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Crystal G]
    #23548968 - 08/17/16 04:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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A lot of 50+ year olds in my family are still skinny. So the so called fact that everyone gets fat once you reach 30+ is bullshit.




Nobody said everyone gets fat, that is a statistical anomaly. Plenty of elderly people are skin and bones.





it's not a statistical anomaly, only about 1/3 of the US is obese, that's different
than being overweight, overweight can include people with a lot of muscle mass




What do you mean "only" 1/3rd, that's 1 out of 3 people, there's even more if you include the numbers of people who are overweight.

The numbers of people who are overweight from being massively buff are nowhere near the amount of people who are just overweight from excess fat.




an excess of muscle mass doesnt mean they're buff, many people gain muscle mass
from simply working physical labor jobs, the body mass index really doesnt mean
shit because it's based in arbitrary factors of height and weight. it places 75%
of men in the overweight/obese category which would mean there's very few or no
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: California] * 1
    #23549060 - 08/17/16 05:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tell the people that were in Nazi Germany prison camps that being fat or skinny is genetic, LOL. 
You are ignorant



I hope these responses are jokes, but they don't seem like jokes. Did you forget that those people were starved and malnoirished?

Fat people loose their weight when malnoirished for months


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees]
    #23549772 - 08/17/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

At some point in the past year or so, holocaust jokes became socially acceptable. I'm guessing Trump has something to do with it


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23549779 - 08/17/16 12:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The generation who experienced that first hand is mostly dead now.  That might have something to do with it.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: idiotek]
    #23549886 - 08/17/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you take genetically identical twins , put one on a vegan diet and make him a marathon runner and a smoker, then put the other one on a high protein high calorie diet , have him eat elk steaks and lift weights.

At the end of five years they will have drastically different bodies because despite being genetically identical, because genetics is only one of four important factors (genetics, diet, exercise and environment/situation)


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees] * 1
    #23550260 - 08/17/16 03:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Tell the people that were in Nazi Germany prison camps that being fat or skinny is genetic, LOL. 
You are ignorant



I hope these responses are jokes, but they don't seem like jokes. Did you forget that those people were starved and malnoirished?

Fat people loose their weight when malnoirished for months



No shit, Sherlock.
You just disproved your thread title, LOL.

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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Shroomism] * 1
    #23550268 - 08/17/16 03:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not sure I buy the sugar makes you fat thing.




Lol what?? There's a reason alcoholics get beer guts... I gained 20lbs when I went through my college drinking phase... in only 6 months!!


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Crystal G]
    #23550301 - 08/17/16 03:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sugar does indeed make many fat.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante]
    #23550340 - 08/17/16 03:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just wanted to say im really glad to see a bigger guy like asante take responsibility for his weight.

I realize genetics play a role in weight; however, far to often I see overweight people play the victim. They dont take any responsibility for shoveling junk food down their throats everyday. They claim people have "medical conditions" when the vast majority just dont live a healthy lifestyle.

It also sickens me to see this whole fat acceptance campaign being pushed down peoples throats. I dont exactly believe in fat shaming, but I shouldnt have to pretend like they are beautiful/healthy people. Nothing about it is normal or healthy. The fat acceptance movement just seems like another excuse to not take control of their addictions. Why would they? They are beautiful afterall.

Often I see people in shape discriminated against by obese people. I get passive aggressive remarks from big women that they are a "real women", as if the skinny in shape girls I date aren't real. Then when I pass on the soda and the cake/ice cream at the end of dinner im just "anorexic". As if taking care of yourself and being healthy is somehow a negative thing in their eyes. Sometimes I feel like the devil likes company, and big people want nothing more then for us all to be big to make themselves feel better.

Then there is the obese people with the gym memberships so they can take pictures of themselves to put on social media to act like they are doing something about their weight. Walking on the treadmill for five minutes long enough to post selfies in the gym doesn't make up for the binge eating of junk food all day long.

I wont judge fat people, but I also wont pretend like its normal/healthy/beautiful just as much as I wont pretend the person with track marks from being a heroin addict is beautiful. Both of them have major problems that need to be addressed. If they want to kill themselves with drugs and food then go for it, but dont seek acceptance for your destructive lifestyle and attack others for wanting to be healthy.

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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: danielx]
    #23550383 - 08/17/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sugar absolutely makes you fat , no real question or debates about that.

Being fat is like smoking. Incredibly self destructive and totally an optional lifestyle choice for the vast majority of people.

A fat acceptance campaign is just as bad an idea as a smoking acceptance campaign for the same reason .

Fat people shouldn't be shamed in the sense of bullied or abused, but just like if your loved one is smoking you should try to get them to quit not celebrate how beautiful they look smoking .

Being obese isn't a victimless crime . In a finite world eating more than you need, more than your fair share, more than is healthy, is morally wrong not just aesthetically displeasing.

And in a nation with socialized medicine being obese creates huge burdens on tax payer funded hospitals and medicine .

The average woman today says more than the average man 50 years ago.

The human species is ballooning Into something that is almost a different species .

Moderation and discipline are virtues just As gluttony and sloth are vices.

When you see An obese person you are seeing the physical results of moral failings - when you see an obese person you are seeing sloth, greed and gluttony.

These are not "beautiful " traits to be celebrated or made more acceptable , they are moral wrongs that people need to own up to and change.

We all have flaws and failings but we shouldn't have ad campaigns to make people celebrate them or pretend that deforming your body through gluttony and sloth is sexy.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Moonshoe]
    #23550398 - 08/17/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And in a nation with socialized medicine being obese creates huge burdens on tax payer funded hospitals and medicine




I cant confirm or deny this, but I heard thats a complete myth. Fat unhealthy people die at a younger age, but healthier people live to be really old and end up being even more of a burden on the system. A man dying at 60 of a heart attack from smoking/overeating/drinking will cost less then a healthier person living to be 90 who needs care/medicine/welfare for another 30 years.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Crystal G]
    #23550400 - 08/17/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not sure I buy the sugar makes you fat thing.




Lol what?? There's a reason alcoholics get beer guts... I gained 20lbs when I went through my college drinking phase... in only 6 months!!




Correlation does not equal causation. You gained 20lbs because you weren't watching your calories.

I probably could sub half my caloric intake for alcohol for a month and not gain a single pound. I'm willing to put money on it.

/ I'm not saying that consuming sugar/alcohol is conducive to good health, but it simply doesn't account for massive weight gains when calories are kept in check.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: falsereality]
    #23550414 - 08/17/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

being fat is a symptome of a problem, nt the actual problem

skinny people think they are fuly protected, but the bosy accumulates damage. you may think you are healthy, but you are not optimal and cant know how you would be if you had bot made those por choices


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Crystal G]
    #23550447 - 08/17/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm not sure I buy the sugar makes you fat thing.




Lol what?? There's a reason alcoholics get beer guts... I gained 20lbs when I went through my college drinking phase... in only 6 months!!




alcohol inhibits the oxidazation of fat cells, that's why many people who drink a lot get fat

http://www.bodybuilding.com/content/5-ways-alcohol-hinders-fat-loss.html


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23550464 - 08/17/16 04:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I didnt know that. Interesting
doesnt effect me, I dont drink, but still.

apparently it also inhibits protein synthesis. It probably throws muscle to fat ratios off pretty bad


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees] * 1
    #23550472 - 08/17/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You're a whole lot dumber than I thought you were.


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23550495 - 08/17/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I didnt know that. Interesting
doesnt effect me, I dont drink, but still.

apparently it also inhibits protein synthesis. It probably throws muscle to fat ratios off pretty bad




It basically effects every part of you, negatively

Wanna build muscle? Don't drink

Wanna lose weight? Don't drink

Wanna build endurance? Don't drink

It's almost as bad as marijuana :lol:


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