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LobsterSauce


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Oh my, that's some purley hair you got there.
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Soluminia
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees]
#23545163 - 08/15/16 07:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I'n sure of the decade of of high prescribed doses of Ritalin and Adderall starting at the age of 7 have nothing to do with fact that i absolutely struggle to maintain 160lbs eating as much as i can being 6'4 and various other things.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Soluminia]
#23545183 - 08/15/16 07:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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A lot of 50+ year olds in my family are still skinny. So the so called fact that everyone gets fat once you reach 30+ is bullshit.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23545196 - 08/15/16 08:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: A lot of 50+ year olds in my family are still skinny. So the so called fact that everyone gets fat once you reach 30+ is bullshit.
Nobody said everyone gets fat, that is a statistical anomaly. Plenty of elderly people are skin and bones.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Crystal G]
#23545217 - 08/15/16 08:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I agree that its a fact that the metabolisms slows down the older one gets but im with op in that most things are due to genetics. Yes outside variables can effect it. Which is most likely the cause for 30+ year olds get fat. They dont adjust their diet to their slowing metabolism.
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Asante
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees] 5
#23545986 - 08/16/16 04:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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No its not just genetic.
If you have seen my picture:

You see that I'm obese. not just a but obese, at the time of that picture I was Cat D obese (now Cat C and dropping), I had as many pounds as there are days in the year.
I had my DNA work done by 23AndMe at the time the FDA still allowed them to give full medical disclosure. Result: Yes I have a tendency to genetic obesity, but about 10-20 lbs worth.
Not 175lbs worth of excess weight.
This is due to BAD FOOD CHOICES (80% of all foods are fattening, virtually all prepared foods are and aI lived on those) SUGAR OVERCONSUMPTION, IRRESPONSIBLE DIETING and LACK OF EXERCISE.
Now that I'm this fat its scientificxally proven that its next to impossible to lose the weight andkeep it off. The cards are enormously stacked against me. My chance to return to a healthy bmi and stay there for a lifetime are 1 in 1290 Thats the science talking. You have to be an anomaly.
well guess what:
I'm going to do what it takes to become that anomaly. I'm gonna grab the bull by the horns and wrestle it to the ground.
I got hella motivation, and thats what you need.
Its not all genetic. Its genetics, a bad food environment and advanced metabolic syndrome.
Dont oversimplify it.
Eat like I ate, arm in arm with Ben & Jerry and a frozen pizza for dinner and you sir will be FAT before you know it.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante] 1
#23545989 - 08/16/16 04:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the propensity for it to be genetic is programmed into every single one of us. I'm not a huge science head but I suspect it's DNA. Hereditary certainly. The Ecto/Endo/Meso bodytypes are as good as a categorisation method as we have IMO.
What they don't factor in is eating disorders caused by psychological harms, most often due to abuse during childhood. You can practically override that genetic setting if you massively over-eat or under-eat. Or take steroids, as is an increasingly common trend in men.
I don't know stats (would like to see them, but need bed), but I suspect over-eating (often referred to as 'comfort eating') is more prevalent than under-eating (as seen in bulimia/anorexia).
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante]
#23545990 - 08/16/16 04:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you followed me around in thoise years you'd wonder "why thre hell is he easting again, and again this much? Thats insulin resistance for you. Most of the calories I eat are directly turned to fat so if I eat a big meal I get the available energy levels as if I get a smallish meal.
I only "see" most of the calories on the scale, not in my muscles where they belong.
Insulin resistance, all fat people have it, and its DIRECTLY CAUSED by sugar overconsumption over years.
SUGAR IS A POISON IN DAILY DOSES OVER 30 GRAMS

SUGAR IS A POISON IN DAILY DOSES OVER 30 GRAMS
If you take anything from this post, let it be that slogan. Its the key to why everybody is fat now and everybody was lean in your grandfathers time when they cooked huge steaks in butter and lard.
Heres the university lecture that explains the science:
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LobsterSauce


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante]
#23546000 - 08/16/16 04:54 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/the-new-cholesterol-diet-oatmeal-oat-bran
The oatmeal train waits for no man. It does however go slow enough for people of all shapes and sizes to jump on.
2. Oats
Wrongly tarred with the “carb” brush, oats are a whole grain, and are high in soluble fiber, so they cut cholesterol and blood fat. They’re also high on what nutritionists call the “satiety index,” meaning oats have tremendous power to make you feel full. Oats digest slowly, so they don’t raise your blood sugar, and they keep you feeling filled up well into the late morning. Oatmeal is, oddly enough, one of the best foods to help you sleep, as well. Old-fashioned steel-cut and rolled oats, with up to 5 grams of fiber per serving, are best, but even instant oatmeal has 3 to 4 grams of fiber per serving.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2011/07/20/5-foods-that-burn-fat/#65eab03d664c
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees] 1
#23546008 - 08/16/16 05:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My genetics make it extremely hard for me to gain weight even when I try to eat as much fat and calories as I can.
But Its not "purely genetic", not even close.
My brother has very similar genetics to me and we look very similar but he is a heroin-skinny vegan smoker who never worked out and I am a big ripped guy eating bison steaks and lifting weights.
Genetics, Lifestyle, diet, exercise...They all matter
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23546040 - 08/16/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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LobsterSauce said: http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/the-new-cholesterol-diet-oatmeal-oat-bran
The oatmeal train waits for no man. It does however go slow enough for people of all shapes and sizes to jump on.
2. Oats
Wrongly tarred with the “carb” brush, oats are a whole grain, and are high in soluble fiber, so they cut cholesterol and blood fat. They’re also high on what nutritionists call the “satiety index,” meaning oats have tremendous power to make you feel full. Oats digest slowly, so they don’t raise your blood sugar, and they keep you feeling filled up well into the late morning. Oatmeal is, oddly enough, one of the best foods to help you sleep, as well. Old-fashioned steel-cut and rolled oats, with up to 5 grams of fiber per serving, are best, but even instant oatmeal has 3 to 4 grams of fiber per serving.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2011/07/20/5-foods-that-burn-fat/#65eab03d664c
Sound advice. I work with Psyllium husks for the same reasons but I'm thinking of adding oatmeal because its just VERY good for you.
I'd have to cook it in water though as I switched from goats milk to fat free quark for my dairy. My quark contains:
Protein: 9% Carbs: 3% Fat: 0.3% Salt: 0.1% +probiotics
The only people I see who have that in their cart are athletes. Its REALLY good stuff, all natural anabolic food.

It has a creaminess reminiscent of ice cream, mayonnaise, whipped cream, stuff like that but it actually has less fat, carbs and salt than plain skim milk.
Its good eating. Athlete food.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante]
#23546048 - 08/16/16 05:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Never heard of it before!
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante]
#23546086 - 08/16/16 06:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
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LobsterSauce said: http://www.webmd.com/cholesterol-management/features/the-new-cholesterol-diet-oatmeal-oat-bran
The oatmeal train waits for no man. It does however go slow enough for people of all shapes and sizes to jump on.
2. Oats
Wrongly tarred with the “carb” brush, oats are a whole grain, and are high in soluble fiber, so they cut cholesterol and blood fat. They’re also high on what nutritionists call the “satiety index,” meaning oats have tremendous power to make you feel full. Oats digest slowly, so they don’t raise your blood sugar, and they keep you feeling filled up well into the late morning. Oatmeal is, oddly enough, one of the best foods to help you sleep, as well. Old-fashioned steel-cut and rolled oats, with up to 5 grams of fiber per serving, are best, but even instant oatmeal has 3 to 4 grams of fiber per serving.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2011/07/20/5-foods-that-burn-fat/#65eab03d664c
Sound advice. I work with Psyllium husks for the same reasons but I'm thinking of adding oatmeal because its just VERY good for you.
I'd have to cook it in water though as I switched from goats milk to fat free quark for my dairy. My quark contains:
Protein: 9% Carbs: 3% Fat: 0.3% Salt: 0.1% +probiotics
The only people I see who have that in their cart are athletes. Its REALLY good stuff, all natural anabolic food.

It has a creaminess reminiscent of ice cream, mayonnaise, whipped cream, stuff like that but it actually has less fat, carbs and salt than plain skim milk.
Its good eating. Athlete food.
Ah, Flohsamen.
Get oats into you, pronto.
Linseed and flohsamen are sprinkled into my bowls of porridge or oats, along with cinnamon for flavour.
A big bowl of matschige haferflocken is so filling and a great base for the morning time, and one tends to then have less need for snacking in between.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: LobsterSauce]
#23546160 - 08/16/16 07:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Genetics play a role but I dont think they really define what we turn out to be.
I have a slow digestive system and need daily fiber supplement daily which is usually 1 table spoon of psylium husk. Withought fiber I just shit 2 times a week and feel constabtly constipated.
I feel you asante thats why when I smoke weed I do my dam best to avoid the munchies, If I just food trip one time I end up feeling complety bloated and gain instantanious weight.
Its necessary for me to play at least 4 hoirs of sports for 3 days each week or else I would feel sluggish and heavy footed.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Nolan92]
#23546165 - 08/16/16 07:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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one table spoon of psyllium husk? Dude that makes you shit like horse!
You might better take a teaspoon with every meal so every load of food gets lubricated (for lack of a better word)
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees]
#23546167 - 08/16/16 07:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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trees said: If you're fat, or crack head skinny, it's not your fault, it's your genetics making you fat or skinny. Genetics also greatly affects your eating habits.
I'm a fairly skinny man, 6' and 145 lbs and my weight is purley genetic. I could eat whole pizzas and mcDonalds 24/7 for months and I'd look unchanged. I can put on miniscule ammounts of fat like this, but it burns off within days.
The fat people in my life like to tell me that I'm "crack head skinny". But when they try to adjust their weight, it's just as difficult for them as it is for me. That's cause they're genetically fat. Not that they can't loose the weight without starving, it's just really really difficult, just as it is for me to gain and keep fat.
There are exceptions with some people who can easily go from skinny to fat and back to skinny, but that is genetic aswell.
Perfect example of weight genetics I observed in a family Im friends with.: -Mother is obese, father is skinny They had a son and daughter. Son is obese, daughter is skinny. Both grew up on the same food and same household and everything. Their difference is genetic.
It's all genetic, no matter what.
Not because you realize a link in your friend family about your father being skinny and your mom being obese, that you can make a generalize statement about genetics and how you don't have a choice to either be fat,skinny,fit,husky,lanky.
Cheers, Bumbaa
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Edited by Bumbaa (08/16/16 07:28 AM)
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LobsterSauce


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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Bumbaa]
#23546275 - 08/16/16 08:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Big and small offspring means nothing.
One could lead an active lifestyle and the other sedentary.
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Asante]
#23547260 - 08/16/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Asante said:
I had my DNA work done by 23AndMe at the time the FDA still allowed them to give full medical disclosure. Result: Yes I have a tendency to genetic obesity, but about 10-20 lbs worth.
Not 175lbs worth of excess weight.
Yes, I agree that genetics play a role but only to a certain point. People might be predisposed to be 10lbs overweight, or even 20 or 30lbs overweight. Just like how some people are genetically predisposed to be average, or 10 or 20lbs underweight. However, rarely is it "genetics" to be 200lbs overweight. Rarely is it "genetics" to be 50-100lbs underweight. At a certain point you have to realize it's your external conditions and dietary and living factors that have caused your situation to be worse.
And congrats on your weight loss journey mate!
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: Crystal G]
#23547264 - 08/16/16 03:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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His weight loss jurney was finding that he weight what he was supposed to the whole time
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Re: Being fat, or skinny, is purley genetic [Re: trees]
#23547316 - 08/16/16 04:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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No, they just eat garbage and don't work out
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