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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23548726 - 08/17/16 01:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Here's the spore print hahaha the cap turned to mush after a while, I remember seeing a faint print but I think it was more like the colour of the cap than pink, no clue though.


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InvisibleHashed
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23548753 - 08/17/16 01:49 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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chipsandwich said:






Is this the same species as the blue bruising suspected Pluteus velutinornatus ?


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23548757 - 08/17/16 01:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No, did not notice/look for bruising on them.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23548770 - 08/17/16 01:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Fuck, what a waste, the things I would have hooked it up with for at least half of the print of that suspected Pluteus velutinornatus...

That print you made of the suspected Pluteus velutinornatus is rank as fuck bro, it's just mushroom gunk now.
Pleases brother, ALWAYS print on foil, print traders and cultivators hate prints on paper.

The reason behind this, is because you can easily scrape spores off foil into agar.

Spores get attached into the fibers of paper, that sucks major ass, it's a bad time, always print on foil, ALWAYS!!!


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23548771 - 08/17/16 02:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Please find me another suspected Pluteus velutinornatus and print it on foil, I beg. :begger:


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed] * 1
    #23548850 - 08/17/16 03:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Pluteus spores are close to if not impossible to germinate on agar, your best to attempt cloning a fresh specimen.


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23548854 - 08/17/16 03:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hashed said:
That print you made of the suspected Pluteus velutinornatus is rank as fuck bro, it's just mushroom gunk now.





Thanks for that amazing insight....

Inski, what are your thoughts? Do you think i've found an active Pluteus species?


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
    #23548855 - 08/17/16 03:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Damn, okay, thank you for that.
Never hurts to try though, and offer still stands, chipsandwich.
Find me another specimen ASAP.

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But are these Pluteus velutinornatus do you reckon Mr. kingpin inski?


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Bagels]
    #23548878 - 08/17/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bagels said:
Two different collections. First 4 photos are a new collection from the same area. The new photos are much better chips and the mushroom without the piece of woodchip appears to be P. makarorae to me. It has a pileus with a distinct umbo. A cap with a big ole pointy nipple if you like :lol: This is the main difference I can see right off from P. tasmaniana.

Photos 5 and 6 are the earlier collection. I think it is too hard to make an ID from those photos.  The gills though with P. tasmaniana drop down more. Sorry I don't know how to correctly describe this. I haven't found a good description of P. tasmaniana perhaps Inski can help with this.

The possible Pluteus does look an exciting find!! I haven't read of any active species in NZ. The microscopic features need to be studied to determine the species. You could put up a new ID request with as many details as possible.




Didn't see this sorry Bagels. Yeah the umbo makes it easier to see the difference, i'm still useless at spotting all the little things, as soon as I get excited I jump to conclusions :tongue:

They're 100% all the same species, they look exactly the same to me and were growing under the same flax bush.

As for the Pluteus, the mushroom is long gone. I know where it came from though, gonna try find some more for sure.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23548953 - 08/17/16 04:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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chipsandwich said:
As for the Pluteus, the mushroom is long gone. I know where it came from though, gonna try find some more for sure.



Please do, I'll give you what ever you want for a print of the suspected  Pluteus velutinornatus.

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Pluteus spores are close to if not impossible to germinate on agar, your best to attempt cloning a fresh specimen.



The fact that inski said that make me think it's his sneaky little way of confirming this specimen as Pluteus velutinornatus.
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chipsandwich said:





So I'm just going to say they are Pluteus velutinornatus, but inski, we are not all inski's, so please confirm this for us dumb cunts. :confused:


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23548985 - 08/17/16 04:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Unless that velvety cap completely disappears on Pluteus velutinornatus I don't think they are, but I know nothing. images of Pluteus cinereofuscus on google have more similarities in my opinion.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23549019 - 08/17/16 04:41 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't know nothing in regards to this possible Pluteus sp. shit either. :cryariver: I'm just tryna get an ID from inski.
We don't even know if it's a Pluteus sp., we is dumb.

Inski, where you at brother?


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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23549022 - 08/17/16 04:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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inski said:





Quote:

chipsandwich said:





Are they the same?
Are they different?
Only one man holds the answer...


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23550344 - 08/17/16 03:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Went back to where I thought I found it and can't find that stump for the life of me, I found the other spot though. Probably a good thing they didn't fruit from the same place, makes me think there will be more around.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23550567 - 08/17/16 05:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, when u find another, you know who to inform.


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23550573 - 08/17/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Will be inski or another reputable nz mycologist.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23550586 - 08/17/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

When you find another, if you only find one, surely hook it up with half the print? 1/4 of it?

I got heaps of cube strains and foreign species, too many to even be fucked listing, what ever you want.


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Invisiblechipsandwich
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
    #23550618 - 08/17/16 05:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have no interest in trading prints etc. I'm more interested in providing collections of Pluteus sp. to a mycologist, it seems there is limited literature on Pluteus especially in NZ.

I do appreciate your interest though hashed.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
    #23550633 - 08/17/16 05:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you find another one, I'll give u 1spot for half it's print.


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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
    #23550641 - 08/17/16 05:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hashed said:
Spores get attached into the fibers of paper, that sucks major ass, it's a bad time, always print on foil, ALWAYS!!!




I just germinated ps azurescens and cyanescens swabbed off the back of a Holiday Inn traveler guide & map. You never know.

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inski said:
Pluteus spores are close to if not impossible to germinate on agar, your best to attempt cloning a fresh specimen.




This..


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