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chipsandwich



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ID request for blue/green bruising Pluteus sp?? Dunedin NZ
#23544512 - 08/15/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Found growing out of woodchips under a flax bush


These were found in the same place previously I think they're all the same species. They all have a little dark nipple on the top, unfortunley all the specimens i've found have been quite munched up and haven't been able to get a spore print. I think these maybe be P. makarorae.
Edited by chipsandwich (08/17/16 01:18 AM)
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
#23544534 - 08/15/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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those are P Tasmaniana. Wait for TI to confirm.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Blazer420]
#23544953 - 08/15/16 06:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope so! I think they're a Psilocybe sp or a Mycena Sp. They have a twisting stipe, I dunno if any of the bluing Mycena sp. have this characteristic.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
#23544984 - 08/15/16 06:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I posted them before in an ID request and Bagels thought they might be Galerina and she has found P. tasmaniana before I think.



Here is another blue/green bruising sp. i've found, anyone got any idea?
Edited by chipsandwich (08/15/16 06:54 PM)
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
#23545781 - 08/16/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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chipsandwich said:

Found growing out of woodchips under a flax bush


These were found in the same place previously I think they're all the same species. They all have a little dark nipple on the top, unfortunley all the specimens i've found have been quite munched up and haven't been able to get a spore print. I think these maybe be P. makarorae.
These are Psilocybe makarorae
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
#23545788 - 08/16/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think the second one you posted could be an active pluteus sp. ? Wait for someone with expertise but thats what it looks like to me.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: xthrx]
#23545801 - 08/16/16 12:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Can someone help identify these
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: xthrx]
#23546042 - 08/16/16 05:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thank you inski, any ideas on the other one?
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xthrx said: I think the second one you posted could be an active pluteus sp. ? Wait for someone with expertise but thats what it looks like to me.
Do you know if there are any from NZ?
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
#23547343 - 08/16/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Found growing out of woodchips under a flax bush


These were found in the same place previously I think they're all the same species. They all have a little dark nipple on the top, unfortunley all the specimens i've found have been quite munched up and haven't been able to get a spore print. I think these maybe be P. makarorae.
These are Psilocybe makarorae
They look far more like P Tasmaniana than makaroa here... Heres some pictures that resemble this
Eg. .. Tasmaniana. Look exactly the same.

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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Blazer420]
#23547861 - 08/16/16 06:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think you could be right Blazer, here are some P. makarorae I found in the same place. The weather has been pretty ruthless down here last couple weeks, they could be damaged from the cold and look more like P. tasmainina.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
#23547956 - 08/16/16 07:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
#23548042 - 08/16/16 08:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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P. makarorae and P. tasmaniana are quite aesthetically similar, but I notice slight differences between the two species, based on pileus and stipe colour, and a few other little traits that both species have unique, like shape of cap and shit. And I have seen enough pictures of P. tasmaniana from Heyowana, and also Bagels' P. tasmaniana specimens to be almost certain with identifications.
I recon chipsandwich's first set of specimens are P. makarorae, but on the rattier waterlogged side of the spectrum, especially that darker specimen throwing it off with the aesthetics.
I agree with inski that they are P. makarorae, not just because inski is inski, granted inski's identification confirmation did make it more obvious to me, but I reckon these are P. makarorae myself, I had to have a nice fat look at them though, before when I skim looked at them I could not even be bothered deciphering that they are P. makarorae, because they are weird ass ratty specimens, and I could not be bothered with it.
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Found growing out of woodchips under a flax bush


However, inski confirmation on these would be epic, these are damn well interesting, and I'm not really in any position to voice my identification on these specimens.
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chipsandwich said: I posted them before in an ID request and Bagels thought they might be Galerina and she has found P. tasmaniana before I think.



Here is another blue/green bruising sp. i've found, anyone got any idea?
My interest is now sparked anyway.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: chipsandwich]
#23548091 - 08/16/16 08:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Confirmation on this specimen would be wicked, inski.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising sp Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
#23548547 - 08/16/16 11:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Two different collections. First 4 photos are a new collection from the same area. The new photos are much better chips and the mushroom without the piece of woodchip appears to be P. makarorae to me. It has a pileus with a distinct umbo. A cap with a big ole pointy nipple if you like This is the main difference I can see right off from P. tasmaniana.
Photos 5 and 6 are the earlier collection. I think it is too hard to make an ID from those photos. The gills though with P. tasmaniana drop down more. Sorry I don't know how to correctly describe this. I haven't found a good description of P. tasmaniana perhaps Inski can help with this.
The possible Pluteus does look an exciting find!! I haven't read of any active species in NZ. The microscopic features need to be studied to determine the species. You could put up a new ID request with as many details as possible.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Blazer420]
#23548560 - 08/16/16 11:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Blazer420 said: They look far more like P Tasmaniana than makaroa here... Heres some pictures that resemble this
Eg. .. Tasmaniana. Look exactly the same.


Your first image here is P. makarorae without doubt, I suspect the other two are P. tasmaniana.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
#23548589 - 08/16/16 11:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I believe there is one active New Zealand Pluteus.
Pluteus velutinornatus

Further study is required to confirm this.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
#23548620 - 08/17/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inski, what is this????????????????
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: inski]
#23548625 - 08/17/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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inski said: I believe there is one active New Zealand Pluteus.
Pluteus velutinornatus

Further study is required to confirm this.
Me want! Mushrooooooom!!!!!!!!

Mushroom monster in this bitch.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
#23548636 - 08/17/16 12:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If it's Pluteus velutinornatus, I'll give you anything you want for it's print.
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Re: ID request for blue bruising Psilocybe sp?? Dunedin NZ [Re: Hashed]
#23548706 - 08/17/16 01:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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inski said: I believe there is one active New Zealand Pluteus.
Pluteus velutinornatus

Further study is required to confirm this.
If this is the same as the mushroom described here and here I have encountered this mushroom or simliar species numerous times in the area where I found both these species. However I can confirm that the species I found is not this mushroom unless the velvety stuff on top turns all jelly like as it ages.


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Hashed said: If it's Pluteus velutinornatus, I'll give you anything you want for it's print. 
I might be able to find I very light print I got, however if it is something interesting i'll try get a professional to have a look.
I know the exact log it grows out of so hopefully I can get some more next year, I found 3 this season, discarded the first two as I was a super noob and I got no interest on my last ID request so I biffed the last shroom I found
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