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200 ug vs. 300 ug
    #23541829 - 08/14/16 06:39 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I'm curious, what's everyone's opinion on the difference between 200 ug vs 300 ug LSD trips? Do you feel there's a sizable gap in effects (visual, duration, headspace, etc.)  between these doses?

There's a reddit thread about this, but it's not that great. Thanks for responses in advanced!

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23541996 - 08/14/16 07:38 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

If you can confirm that it is LSD, because when you're buying a blotter today.. You can never be sure of its contents 100%.

Then I'd say that for me 150~200ug would be a full on trip, while on 300ug I would get ego-death and probably the visions would get more "cartoony".


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: psilosalvia] * 1
    #23542131 - 08/14/16 08:33 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I don't know if the guy dosed the tabs too much, but 300ug made me lose myself. I've never been so out of control when I did 300 ug, and I have done quarter shroom trips in the past.

200 ug is my sweet spot.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: Kinshino]
    #23542611 - 08/15/16 12:01 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I've taken 300 ug on a few different occasions. Most notably for me are the OEVs get intense at 300 mics. I've yet to experience ego death, it's interesting to see folks mention it at that dose.

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23542629 - 08/15/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

300ug is a really solid dose. Ive had massive oevs and cevs on doses that high. Ive experienced ego dissolution on that much but usually took around 500ug to destroy me haha. Id like to venture that high again.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs] * 1
    #23542655 - 08/15/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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I've yet to experience ego death, it's interesting to see folks mention it at that dose.



I feel like mindstate, environment, and how often you trip can make some amazing stuff happen at low doses!  Ego death in itself is not that wild for me though.  It's kind of expected with lsd in general. 


There is definitely a noticable difference in effects from 200ug to 300ug.  As others have said, it's rare for a single tab to actually be dosed that high.  People lie about dosages all of the time. 

My sweet spot is actually over 500ug, but I'm a strange character, and have eaten alot of lsd.  My reccomendation is to always start small, and work your way up. I actually have been taking the longest break from tripping since I first started.  I can't wait for my trip!  It's always so mind blowing when it's been awhile.  I considered taking 300ug, to blow my mind, but not risk having a bad time.  I think I'm actually going to take over 500ug, and dive into the deep end!

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: bigbitch]
    #23542672 - 08/15/16 12:41 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

I guess I'm giving myself kinda a strict definition on ego death. Yeah mental dissolution is for sure a given. I like to think I have a strong mental fortitude, so it's gonna take a high level of shrooms or at least 500+ ug to send me into full blown ego death.

I actually think LSD + K sent me into that state one time, but that could argued I was in a k-hole...

Im contemplating my next trip this coming weekend to be 300 ug. My girl wants to do somewhere between 150-200 ug. Hence my curiousity.

bigbitch, I can relate! I just got back into the psychedelic swing of things after a 3 year hiatus! My latest trips have been spectacular! This will be the largest one since coming back and our final trip til late fall / winter.

Thanks for the responses so far everyone! :vibin:

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23542693 - 08/15/16 12:57 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Always gets ego-death on 300ug+,
Individual to me maybe.. And I think that after the first time you experienced it you realize you just need to let go completely and it can be utterly beautiful , like being a little innocent kid again, which i think is one of the best perks of LSD :smile:


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs] * 1
    #23542714 - 08/15/16 01:13 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah it may just be your perceived definition of ego death.  I like to think of ego death as just losing your ego.  You lose your pride, you realize all humans no matter how negative some can be, have the ability to change or open their mind. (whether they do it or not)  You don't feel as if you're better than anyone.  You may be able to tap into your love for animals.  You may think about how we all come and go the same way.  I sometimes think about how we are part of the earth.  We come and go as carbon.  Astronauts have to take the earth with them in a space shuttle to survive (oxygen, food, water, etc.) Like the poster above said, it's like being a kid again! 

My hiatus has only been, just short of a year.  I think it's been long enough though!  I bet your first trip coming back after 3 years was earth shattering!  That's kind of why I want to dive into the deep end, because my mind may never be primed like this again!  Even though K is unhealthy, I love the mix of K and lsd!  Great combo.

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: bigbitch]
    #23543293 - 08/15/16 09:28 AM (7 years, 6 months ago)

300ug has been where i've liked to go recently. There is a big difference between 200-300ug imo. But I never get ego death at 200. 300 It happens to me every other trip I have I feel tho ;p It all boils down to how far I wanna go that night.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: AVShroomer]
    #23543860 - 08/15/16 12:09 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah besides cannabis, LSD is my favorite substance. There's so much to learn about ourselves and L can be the key to unlocking truly profound thoughts & experiences!

:mindblown:

I think I'll be taking 3 hits of my WoW this weekend. I know for a fact they're solid doses so I'm pretty excited to be diving into deeper waters again!

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: bigbitch]
    #23544138 - 08/15/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Quote:

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Yeah it may just be your perceived definition of ego death.  I like to think of ego death as just losing your ego.  You lose your pride, you realize all humans no matter how negative some can be, have the ability to change or open their mind. (whether they do it or not)  You don't feel as if you're better than anyone.  You may be able to tap into your love for animals.  You may think about how we all come and go the same way.  I sometimes think about how we are part of the earth.  We come and go as carbon.  Astronauts have to take the earth with them in a space shuttle to survive (oxygen, food, water, etc.) Like the poster above said, it's like being a kid again! 

My hiatus has only been, just short of a year.  I think it's been long enough though!  I bet your first trip coming back after 3 years was earth shattering!  That's kind of why I want to dive into the deep end, because my mind may never be primed like this again!  Even though K is unhealthy, I love the mix of K and lsd!  Great combo.




That's not what ego death means. Words have definitions, you know? You can't just make up your own definitions to words because you like them better.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: healing]
    #23544279 - 08/15/16 02:29 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

What does it mean?  That's how I always perceived it.

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: bigbitch] * 2
    #23544465 - 08/15/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Ego as in id, ego and super ego, where ego is the interface between the id, your desires, and the superego, your sense of morals. Basically the ego is the self. Ego death, then, is when you are no longer able to differentiate between yourself and your environment. Your personality ceases to exist and you become a part of your surroundings, or the universe as a whole. This means that you no longer have any perception of time, or space. You do not know who you are, what you are, you do not remember that you have taken a drug because you don't know what drugs are, because you cannot differentiate between individual objects. So you can't tell the difference between animals, and plants, and inanimate objects because animals, and plants, and inanimate objects are all one big thing of which you feel deeply a part.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23544726 - 08/15/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Colors more radiant and definitely more melting and ripples, the overall experience becomes more hyperdimesnional and surging for me and things seem more alien. More trancelike

The difference between 100 to 200mics for me though is MUCH bigger than the difference between 200 and 300.
With LSD I have to pass a certain threshold and for me that threshold is around 200 micrograms. It's pretty much like a "breakthrough" at that point in that it feels almost like a different drug and the effects are very very different.

Low doses of LSD (doses below 150ug) for me are usually just a dramatic change in perception, there's nothing really hyperdimensional until I hit the 200ug mark. The experience completely changes.
The difference between 200 and 300 though isn't as dramatic but still notable.

Usually takes 400 or 500 mics for me to get ego death however.

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23544856 - 08/15/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

can you describe the difference in 100ug and 200ug trips? And that is typically between 1 and 2 tabs right? I am going to be doing my first LSD trip soon so I am just trying to understand as much as I can. And take different peoples experiences into account.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: Noobtrip]
    #23545084 - 08/15/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

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can you describe the difference in 100ug and 200ug trips? And that is typically between 1 and 2 tabs right? I am going to be doing my first LSD trip soon so I am just trying to understand as much as I can. And take different peoples experiences into account.




I've tripped with some friends on their first LSD trips which was never over 120ug, and most of them say in retrospective that it's just as doing a slight bigger dose they're doing now, you should expect the change in the surrounding feeling, a little anxiety and some bright colors, with some people waves and ripples, sensation merging.

For me 100ug now would be only the "body high" with some brighter colors


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23545105 - 08/15/16 07:23 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

IME, most recently off of a 100 ug 1p tab with zero tolerance, 100 ug produced the full spectrum of lysegeric goodness! I had visual morphing, breathing, introspective headspace, color enhancement, etc. Nothing overwhelming, but nothing underwhelming that's forsure.


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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: DabsAndTabs]
    #23545290 - 08/15/16 08:30 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Talking about ego death, I wouldn't say that ego death is a result of any specific measured dose. Sure, it's more commonly reported in larger to heroic doses of LSD and mushrooms, but that doesn't mean we should disregard the many reports of its occurrence in normal doses. I've read many reports of ego death and disillusion as a result of, say, 2 gram mushroom trips and 120ug LSD experiences.
To say that ego death is triggered by any dose or controllable factor of environment or mindset is ungrounded because it is such a simply unpredictable thing. Who knows under whose will the ego death experience is conjured... :tongue2:

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Re: 200 ug vs. 300 ug [Re: Epistrophy]
    #23545319 - 08/15/16 08:46 PM (7 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah I feel like it really just depends on the individual, but the definition a few posts above is what I consider true ego death.

Throughout my psychedelic usage I've admittedly only done heavy trips, like 7 g mush or 5 strip trips, on a few occasions. None of those has resulted in ego death, but one of my best friends is more susceptible psychedelics and has bridged that gap on only a moderate dose of L during one of our trips together. With that being said, I believe it's a mixture of the dosage level & the individual's psyche that brings out extreme mind states such as ego death.

Mental dissolution of a mild variety is expected though at any level. I think the phrase ego death gets thrown around pretty loosely.

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