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amidogen
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Pin maturation problems
#23543135 - 08/15/16 07:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:56 AM)
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23543139 - 08/15/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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That cake looks way too wet.
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23543196 - 08/15/16 08:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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where i live, i only need to mist twice a day, really. i suspect most people could get away with twice a day. it's hot and super humid outside, but inside its 68F and usually around 50%rh. there really is a fine line between misting too much and not enough.
when we say glistening with moisture, we mean like when you put a bright light up to the cake, you will see it twinkle a little with tiny beads o moisture. the pic is way to wet. another problem i suspect a lot of people have is that they may not be misting too often, but too much each time they do it. this is the problem i used to have.
when i mist, i usually give the cakes a good 3-5 spritzes from the water bottle from a foot away. then when pins are maturing into fruits, i go down to 1-3 spritzes. and this is usually twice a day. and even then i still over mist a tad bit sometimes.
its really easy to think you arent putting that much water out there, while misting. take a cup or cap or something and spray straight into it 4-5 times, and see how much water actually comes out. it is way more than you would think, since you only see it as a fine mist.
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: mupetmower]
#23543310 - 08/15/16 09:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23543454 - 08/15/16 10:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ust put it back in and dont mist for a while. then go back and start light misting. tomorrow morning or something, if it's dried by then. you will get the feel for misting after a while. there are lots of warning signs that you are misting too much that youll soon start to notice.
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: mupetmower]
#23543993 - 08/15/16 12:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:57 AM)
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23547301 - 08/16/16 04:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23549319 - 08/17/16 08:50 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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the cutting back is probably not what caused it. especially just for a day or two. i would bet it was from the over misting. or something unrelated. if youre worried the cakes are not hydrated, then maybe put the cake in a saucer of water. idk. since you were misting so much it seems like the cakes might not be dehydrated, you know? how heavy do the cakes feel compared to how they felt after their dunk?
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: mupetmower]
#23549348 - 08/17/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry OP not trying to jack your thread just have something to add....I have the same issue on one of my cakes... last night the caps on the pins have changed from brown to white and appear to be covered in mycellium, I'm pretty sure their aborts but when I looked this morning the caps are maturing and separating from the stem? I'm debating on whether to wait for them to mature or to just go ahead and pick them and redunk.
Edited by Peteyboy (08/17/16 09:08 AM)
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: Peteyboy]
#23549582 - 08/17/16 10:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:57 AM)
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23549696 - 08/17/16 11:52 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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My recommendation > Fog the cakes with a humidifier once per day - Keep between 68-80 degrees. Humitity in your chamber should be 50 -85% ( get a humidity dial ) . Also Grain spawn next time man ### Same timeframe , same effort, less work , more yeild . Much love - Goodluck
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23552540 - 08/18/16 08:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah.. you dont need any of that shit.
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: mupetmower]
#23552665 - 08/18/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen]
#23552685 - 08/18/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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i mean. at this point, anything else i would be able to say would be pure speculation. i really think the over misting was likely the cause. when pins abort, they are done for. they will not come back, IME.
i would go ahead and start some more cakes if you havent already. and sure, pick the aborts and give the cake a dunk. see what happens. that's about all you can do at this point, besides getting started on more.
also, the white on the pins is looking abnormal. not really sure what the deal is with all that. i dont know if its a mold, or myc, or what. someone else can say for sure. over misting/watering can cause bacterial problems on the fruits, which im sure could potentially lead to molds.
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: mupetmower]
#23552716 - 08/18/16 09:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I picked off the obvious aborts of of mine and left anything looking like it has potential. This morning what I left on separated their caps, so I think they will just be midget mushrooms lol.
Will pick the rest and re-dunk later tonight...
When I rubbed the white stuff off the caps I picked it came off, but it tore like mushroom flesh so I think it's just mycellium...maybe an effort to protect the aborts from getting contamed?
Edited by Peteyboy (08/18/16 09:28 AM)
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: mupetmower]
#23552739 - 08/18/16 09:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: amidogen] 1
#23552752 - 08/18/16 09:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't need a whole syringe for agar, you could knock up some jars with the PE, then when ready dunk then return to jar and case with verm or coir and top fruit in SGFC, or crumble cake as spawn to trays of substrate of your choice. That way you still have fun going down while waiting for agar to get set up!!
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Pastywhyte said: Penis envy type varieties take a very long time to pin and need far more water than most classic cubes. Because of this they tend to do poorly on cakes unless you consolidate for 2-3 weeks since they just dry out while sitting in the chamber. Once pinning they often need more water than the cakes can provide so bottom watering is needed to supply extra once the pinset is in. They also seem to prefer a better casing than simple vermiculite.
Because of these things PE is often recommended to not be done on cakes. If those were mine however I would simply redunk them and that might help. Next time if you do PE on cakes let them consolidate longer and leave them in the jars. Case with coir and top fruit. You will see far better results.
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Re: Pin maturation problems [Re: Peteyboy]
#23552800 - 08/18/16 10:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Edited by amidogen (04/19/18 08:58 AM)
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