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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23548348 - 08/16/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

LSD always makes you think "we don't know what the fuck we are doing on this flying piece of cosmic dirt, and no one knows what the fuck is going on, as hard as they try to act like they do"
"No one has a clue what is going on"


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23548388 - 08/16/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Welp.. I've never looked at it that way. Mind = blown.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: LiquidVisions]
    #23548424 - 08/16/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would suggest stop taking psychedelics and possibly all drugs if you have developed a false conspiracy. Personally I don't believe things like that are a "normal" effect from even 5g of mushrooms, but rather the mushrooms triggering possible underlying mental health problems.  Stay safe.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23548841 - 08/17/16 03:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Haha so my friend that tripped on mushrooms for the first time recently, started to believe during the experience that the vacation she took like a week before had never actually happened. Because she never took any pictures. She said she was looking through her phone trying to find pictures of her vacation in Florida, saying "Oh my god. I never actually left. I just believe that I went to Florida but I never did."
She was fine though, after coming down.

At least you know it was a delusion now. That's the way it works usually.

I've tripped on shrooms dozens of times and I've never had anything like that happen to me. But just a couple weeks ago I smoked some DMT... Then after the DMT trip I somehow believed that I had not actually smoked any DMT at all. And by simply holding up the pipe in front of my face and not inhaling anything or even lighting the lighter, I had received a full-blown DMT trip.

I was freaking out in my bedroom for like 30 minutes, like: "Oh my god! What have I done!? I just triggered a DMT trip without smoking anything! Have I smoked so much DMT that now my brain just releases it randomly now!? What if I start tripping on DMT in public out of nowhere!?"

In fact. I kid you not. I had the Shroomery still open on my computer while I was having that freak-out and actually wrote like 3 paragraphs about how my brain just gave me a DMT trip without smoking anything and how I was afraid that I might just start releasing endogenous DMT at random moments in my life...
Then in the middle of writing that, I realized... "Wait... I did smoke DMT. I remember seeing the vapor in the pipe and feeling it go into my lungs... Ohhhhh so I'm not going crazy."

Lmao. I guess sometimes you just think weird shit. :strokebeard:


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Aik]
    #23548931 - 08/17/16 03:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I still don't understand how I got convinced of this conspiracy because it is so retarded.

Here is the story:

I was tripping with my cousin (it was his first time) and he behaved in a really weird way and resisted my guidance. He started recording himself on a dictaphone and  because of the fucking literature class I had in high school I took a lot of things he said as metaphors and thought most words had some kind of symbolic meaning. I slowly "realised" that he is getting into my head and saying my thoughts. Mushrooms convinced me that he was a homosexual (which he isn't) and he was trying to get me to have sex with him by shaping the direction in which my thoughts are going (with the help of the dictaphone). What is worse, is that I believed that my whole family knew about me taking shrooms and that they thought that shrooms opened my mind up for homosexuality and they tried to test me by sending my cousin to trip with me and try to have sex with me.  I ended up running away in the rain at 6 am.



Ive had shit like that happen to me. I had a very strong tea with two other people. We were tripping hard and my thoughts were snow balling as usual and i started thinking shit like this... Mushrooms... I have mushrooms. mushroom heads Mushrooms are like penises... penises? I like mushrooms, everybody here knows i like mushrooms, that must mean i like penises, everybody knows i love penis.. But i didnt know i was gay? What is happening!!!

You were just tripping bro haha


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: ergoticmandala]
    #23549188 - 08/17/16 07:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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LSD always makes you think "we don't know what the fuck we are doing on this flying piece of cosmic dirt, and no one knows what the fuck is going on, as hard as they try to act like they do"
"No one has a clue what is going on"






!!! Lmao I think this on a daily basis hahaha hahaha it's so true i mean come on were on a cosmic rock traveling 68,000 miles per hour !!! Psychedelics definetly increase that train/type of thought


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23549274 - 08/17/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I would suggest stop taking psychedelics and possibly all drugs if you have developed a false conspiracy




In trip reports its not uncommon for people to trip with friends and get the idea that these friends are somehow "against them". I would only be concerned if someone was reporting this kind of thing *after* a shroom trip, e.g "I took shrooms last week, I discovered there is a massive conspiracy against me  and now I have to wear a tinfoil hat to stop the government planting thoughts in my head".

:tinfoil:

What you could broadly term "paranoid delusions" are part of the weather system at high doses - I can feel my thoughts sliding towards the irrational and the trip changes character from being an interesting drug experience to something where what you are seeing and thinking has a deep significance, the trip is a gateway to another reality....

I think it's actually something that makes the trips more awe-inspiring; when you literally believe that your CEV represent some kind of alien dimension or that you have uncovered all the secrets of the universe. It's possible to be fairly lucid but delusional at the same time - in fact sometimes I am aware that my overall thinking is delusional but I still can't shake the feeling that the core delusion of the trip is actually real...

From another post on delusions:

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I find high-dose shroom trips to be massively delusional. With a heavy dose I usually end up thinking I'm God. I quite often feel like I've uncovered all the secrets of the universe, that reality is a simulation, that I'm actually dead and I exist in some kind of super-technology that can replicate the past, that the trip is showing me the realms of the dead. If my trip diaries are to be believed, God is very fond of writing in capital letters. Gets a little bit irritating when I come down - "Oh no, not all this God shit again!".

:psychoactiveair:

I like trips that revolve around some kind of paranoid alien conspiracy, where I can suddenly feel the prescense of "them" within the trip, like "oh shit" because they're going to annihilate the human race or have already done so (living inside a simulation...built by aliens). The abstract CEV then get interpreted as being the insides of alien spacecraft and so on, all gets very weird. If I have to surrender to the trip because its getting too strong, it becomes like surrendering to the aliens. Fun times!




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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: cube talk]
    #23550332 - 08/17/16 03:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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these replies really bother me...WHY does everyone here insist that OP was having "delusions" and that there was no truth in the realizations that he made? Is it just because these conclusions were made under the influence of psychedelics?





Because some of us like myself have been there

A lot of things just make sense on trips that are just.. ridiculous in sober life and thinking

You see your dad pick up the phone just as you walk around the corner..... perhaps he's CIA!?

Ive been there, I thought my dad was hired by the government or something to keep an eye on my shroom trips because perhaps I was the chosen one from that movie the matrix but in real life and I wasn't supposed to be seeing or learning all this

It's just drug induced mania, that's why I never believe anything I "learn" on shrooms until after the trip is over

the things have had me believing I was an angel, i was god, this girl I liked was an angel, the world was coming into an end.

drug induced mania



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these replies really bother me...WHY does everyone here insist that OP was having "delusions" and that there was no truth in the realizations that he made? Is it just because these conclusions were made under the influence of psychedelics?





Because some of us like myself have been there

A lot of things just make sense on trips that are just.. ridiculous in sober life and thinking

You see your dad pick up the phone just as you walk around the corner..... perhaps he's CIA!?

Ive been there, I thought my dad was hired by the government or something to keep an eye on my shroom trips because perhaps I was the chosen one from that movie the matrix but in real life and I wasn't supposed to be seeing or learning all this

It's just drug induced mania, that's why I never believe anything I "learn" on shrooms until after the trip is over

the things have had me believing I was an angel, i was god, this girl I liked was an angel, the world was coming into an end.

drug induced mania




Are you seriously responding and arguing with yourself about wether something is mania or delusion?


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    #23551663 - 08/17/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Acideater69]
    #23553313 - 08/18/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have had some weird thoughts like I would believe "everything is infinite"  but I have never actually believed anyone was out to get me while tripping, and none of my friends have experienced anything like that either. Maybe more people can input on this?


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Gottaloveacid]
    #23553386 - 08/18/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I just tripped 5 g and shrooms convinced me that my whole family from parents to cousins have conspired against me. What was scary is that I reviewed my interactions with them for the last year and it all just started making sense. The words they used, the questions they asked, their behaviour... everything pointed to the conspiracy.

Has this happened to anyone else?




I've came to the understanding, through personal experience, that there's a deep revelation which presents itself in that ones own family is essentially the self. The altered mind will reveal that all signs point back to the self and it will tie up the meanings of why things are the way they are, as a means for you to discover that you are all of your family and ultimately, all of mankind.  This experience is seemingly reserved for death in that your family, who are you (and paradoxically, you, them) are waiting for you (a part of the themselves) in the suspension of ecstatic eternity.

The revelation on this plane however (usually before discovery) is intercepted by the 'dark' and remoddeled to suggest that everyone that is you, is against you, to ultimately corrupt you into solitude, against onself, which puts you at distance from atonement (at-one-ment).

This force can be observed at work without being fully invested and suseptiable to its effects by partitioning the psyche with understanding of Christ (your true light) which has the ability to observe with clear and immediate understanding from a spiritually safe vantage point.

The dark usually works with a moderate potency undercurrent, but will spike into full and immediate effect if there's something that threatens its position.

Regard it as a futile attempt to derail you from a productive path you were clearly travelling on. :thumbup:


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23553439 - 08/18/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hit a 10g lemon tek And started unraveling and looking at events of my whole life and convinced my self that I had been cursed or something.
Threw that one away and then realized that my whole life is a joke Or some kind of test and everybody I know was in on it including my wife and daughter and they know every single detail of my life down to my thoughts.
Then I was like fuck since they know my thoughts they know I know.:shocked:
But then I was like maybe they don't know but they're subconscious does.
Long story short I thought since I figured out the secret to my life here on earth the reaper was coming in hot.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Duncan Rowhl]
    #23553452 - 08/18/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)


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I jus What was scary is that I reviewed my interactions with them for the last year and it all just started making sense. The words they used, the questions they asked, their behaviour... everything pointed to the conspiracy.

Has this happened to anyone else?



Thats pretty much sums up what I just posted


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Yeshmeister]
    #23553657 - 08/18/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Everything in this thread sounds pretty predictable, especially at a higher dose. Mushrooms make you think strange stuff.. Who knew.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: notapillow] * 1
    #23553712 - 08/18/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Mushrooms make you think strange stuff.. Who knew.




Not you, I suspect, given that elsewhere you advise someone to visit a doctor. :thumbup:

I wouldn't be convinced that your tidy summary is a substitute for a Psychedlic discussion group, however if you're happy with it, embrace it and opt out where others value elaboration, insight and opinion.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: notapillow]
    #23553726 - 08/18/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The shrooms open gates in your mind which let in more information - sometimes visual, sometimes insight, sometimes euphoria, sometimes paranoia etc. Why sometimes it's good and other times it's bad tripping I don't know but I agree it's really bloody sinister when it turns sour. Is not so different from schizophrenic / psychotic episodes.

With regard to whether it's true or not, everything is true or not depending on how you look at it and this is exactly how on the opposite side of the coin the psychs help - you think everything is shit in your life and they show you how good you've got it - is just how you look at it. Trouble is they have the same mechanism in different directions. No matter good or bad tripping however, the message is always that your reality is composed of your own focus.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Aik]
    #23554787 - 08/18/16 08:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I still don't understand how I got convinced of this conspiracy because it is so retarded.

Here is the story:

I was tripping with my cousin (it was his first time) and he behaved in a really weird way and resisted my guidance. He started recording himself on a dictaphone and  because of the fucking literature class I had in high school I took a lot of things he said as metaphors and thought most words had some kind of symbolic meaning. I slowly "realised" that he is getting into my head and saying my thoughts. Mushrooms convinced me that he was a homosexual (which he isn't) and he was trying to get me to have sex with him by shaping the direction in which my thoughts are going (with the help of the dictaphone). What is worse, is that I believed that my whole family knew about me taking shrooms and that they thought that shrooms opened my mind up for homosexuality and they tried to test me by sending my cousin to trip with me and try to have sex with me.  I ended up running away in the rain at 6 am.




That's hilarious indeed! ^.^

But let's suppose it was all true. Your cousin was sent by your family to have sex with you.

*sexual moves
"No, thank you."

That's all. But then, why were you terrified of this turn of event? THERE is the fear to explore :wink:

Do you fear that people know about you, or do you fear to be treated like a bag of shit if they thought you were gay? How do you treat yourself gay people?


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: Aik]
    #23557975 - 08/19/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I just tripped 5 g and shrooms convinced me that my whole family from parents to cousins have conspired against me. What was scary is that I reviewed my interactions with them for the last year and it all just started making sense. The words they used, the questions they asked, their behaviour... everything pointed to the conspiracy.

Has this happened to anyone else?




I'm currently reading a book titled Idiot Brain.  There's a great subchapter titled "What do four-leaf clovers and UFO's have in common?  (The connection between superstition, conspiracy theories and other bizarre beliefs)"

Check it out.


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Re: Believing in a conspiracy on shrooms [Re: DustyBottoms] * 1
    #23558389 - 08/19/16 09:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You may need to sober up for a few weeks to integrate the trip and figure out what it all means.  It is rare that a delusion of a trip should be taken at face value, it is more likely you need to read between the lines.  I am currently on a hiatus from tripping because my last trip shook me in a way similar to what Duncan Rowhl posted about how the family is the self, etc, only it wasn't as straightforward as that.  After about 6 months from my last trip, I'm still piecing together some of the mysteries the trip left me to think about.

I have had paranoid delusions while tripping only to realize the delusions were false but had some sort of truth behind them.  I was paranoid that people at my job were conspiring against me, in truth there was no conspiracy but I was unhappy there so I found a new job and things turned out for the better.  I have had delusions that I was being investigated by feds, while in truth I was young at the time and probably too open about my drug use.  I kept to myself more after that and all was well.  I have had delusions about certain friends, then after analyzing it found they were not real friends.

Read between the lines brother.  Your family may not actually be conspiring against you, but there could be something there that could help improve your relationship with them.


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