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They say life isn't fair
    #23542293 - 08/14/16 09:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I must admit that I'm a sucker for fair dealings.  When unfairness and injustice are at play, I, perhaps irrationally, get worked up.  They say life isn't fair.  Well, it's only unfair because we've decided to make it that way.  There's not some phantom force in the world robbing it of fairness.  It's man's treatment of his fellow man that is the sole culprit.  Writing behavior off to unfairness is a cop out.

Any thoughts?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #23542306 - 08/14/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Is every man and woman born equally healthy and attractive and into an equally wealthy family in an equally beautiful land?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542318 - 08/14/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Is all that stuff what life is about?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: cez]
    #23542325 - 08/14/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Now you are shifting topics.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542344 - 08/14/16 09:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't think so.  Why do you think that stuff you responded to op with should be the measure of fairness?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23542345 - 08/14/16 09:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Considering the natural world, I believe fairness is a fantasy of the human mind.

When a fly is caught in a spider's web, where is the fairness?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: cez]
    #23542358 - 08/14/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think so.  Why do you think that stuff you responded to op with should be the measure of fairness?




How does fairness suddenly equal meaning?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23542374 - 08/14/16 10:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

a fantasy of the human mind...
close, but I think primateologists find apes also have such a 'concept'.
I have read of experiments showing this.
It makes sense, that it's 'wired in', in terms of how society (in the case of certain social animals) attempts to shape its members behavior for the greater good;
thus if parents have 2 kids they may teach them accordingly.

But in terms of some sort of 'divine right' or 'cosmic justice',
I agree  there is no evidence of such.
As both you & OC already pointed out the evidence is for the contrary position.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: OrgoneConclusion] * 1
    #23542381 - 08/14/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Is every man and woman born equally healthy and attractive and into an equally wealthy family in an equally beautiful land?




I wasn't talking about chance.  I was referring to the tendency that when something goes awry, when someone says, "Well, life isn't fair," it's disingenuous because much of the unfairness in the world springs from willful human behavior.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23542388 - 08/14/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Considering the natural world, I believe fairness is a fantasy of the human mind.

When a fly is caught in a spider's web, where is the fairness?




I think it's perfectly fair.  Sometimes, it's the fly's day to feast parasitically and reproduce; sometimes it's the fly's day to die.  What's unfair about that?  Human machinations are quite different.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23542394 - 08/14/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Now you have shifted from it's only unfair because of humans to now it's mostly unfair due to humans.

Any other corrections or will the target keep moving with each new post?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
    #23542405 - 08/14/16 10:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think so.  Why do you think that stuff you responded to op with should be the measure of fairness?




How does fairness suddenly equal meaning?




By your response of equal health/land/wealth as criteria of fairness.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: cez]
    #23542412 - 08/14/16 10:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Now you have shifted from it's only unfair because of humans to now it's mostly unfair due to humans.

Any other corrections or will the target keep moving with each new post?




I did say sole culprit, and in the context of my point, it was correct.  I wasn't addressing what you consider unfair.  I don't think of that as unfairness.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23542423 - 08/14/16 10:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I must admit that I'm a sucker for fair dealings.  When unfairness and injustice are at play, I, perhaps irrationally, get worked up.  They say life isn't fair.  Well, it's only unfair because we've decided to make it that way.  There's not some phantom force in the world robbing it of fairness.  It's man's treatment of his fellow man that is the sole culprit.  Writing behavior off to unfairness is a cop out.

Any thoughts?




"I, perhaps irrationally, get worked up."
is that fair?
or are you being mean to yourself?


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: laughingdog]
    #23542432 - 08/14/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

lots of pissiness on the board tonite
the universe must be having it's period


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: laughingdog]
    #23542438 - 08/14/16 10:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I would say it was a possibly or possibly not rational response, and not look at it in the light of fair/unfair.  But that's me.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: laughingdog] * 1
    #23542442 - 08/14/16 10:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

In the animal kingdom, thieves, cheaters, killers, and connivers abound.

For example, the common cuckoo is a brood parasite. It lays its eggs in the nests of other birds.
The hen cuckoo flies into to the host's nest, pushes one egg out of the nest, lays an egg, and flies off.

That would be grounds for a murder sentence if the bird was human.


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: laughingdog]
    #23542447 - 08/14/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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lots of pissiness on the board tonite
the universe must be having it's period




that's not fair    :crazy2:

... give me a maxi-pad please


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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23542450 - 08/14/16 10:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: They say life isn't fair [Re: DividedQuantum]
    #23542692 - 08/15/16 12:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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