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    #23542011 - 08/14/16 07:43 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: XnMe] * 1
    #23542137 - 08/14/16 08:36 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

it appears you are fruiting in some kind of non-standard fruiting chamber, and your fruits are being hindered pretty signifigantly from poor growing conditions. they look like they need some serious FAE and perhaps some additional water.

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Munchauzen] * 1
    #23542205 - 08/14/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

https://files.shroomery.org/files/16-23/548367511-P6080020.jpg

For example this person's cake in a proper fruiting chamber

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23542227 - 08/14/16 09:11 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I think what he has them in is fine as long as there are plenty of holes. I'm not seeing any in the foil area, next time i'd put some there as well. surely you have them in the top plastic piece.
Glad to see those cakes revitalized though. :smile: You're a good dad.


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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Maximillion] * 1
    #23542245 - 08/14/16 09:15 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Perlite is pretty useless in a tray. Unless air flows up through holes beneath the perlite it won't do much for humidification. Breeding ground for early contamination tho

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23542258 - 08/14/16 09:18 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah he definitely needs holes on the bottom half of the tub as well as the top. The container itself would totally work though. :P Not what I would use but it does the job.


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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: bodhisatta] * 2
    #23542259 - 08/14/16 09:19 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Very simple solution here. Build a proper SGFC. :shrug: I know you can do it :thumbup:


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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Mad Season] * 1
    #23542501 - 08/14/16 11:14 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Very simple solution here. Build a proper SGFC. :shrug: I know you can do it :thumbup:




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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: XnMe] * 1
    #23543610 - 08/15/16 10:57 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Sounds like a terrible idea.

Go back to square one do things right. Then you won't have to fix problems with more problems

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: XnMe]
    #23543676 - 08/15/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

some people have to have their own failures rather than learning from the vast pool of knowledge others have amassed. that's ok too. I guess we just wanted to see you have some more success for your effort.

it's hard to make decisions on what to do when you have 0 idea what they want.

fanning is not FAE. you have to manually fan 10 times an hour to achieve FAE. FAE should be provided by the holes in your fruiting chamber and should occur all the time passively.

cakes should make their own humidity as the evaporate off moisture you spray on the vermiculite you rolled them in. the FC should just keep them from drying out too fast, it's a crutch so that you can go to work and sleep and not have to maintain them every few hours.

also not warm enough is below 65F

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: XnMe]
    #23543677 - 08/15/16 11:15 AM (7 years, 10 months ago)

The knowledge you're after is already being offered. There is no "wiping the slate clean" involved whatsoever. Do you really think going it alone will yield better results than following the teks that have been around and improved upon for years?

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: h0ldthedoor]
    #23544075 - 08/15/16 01:19 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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The knowledge you're after is already being offered. There is no "wiping the slate clean" involved whatsoever. Do you really think going it alone will yield better results than following the teks that have been around and improved upon for years?

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: XnMe]
    #23544098 - 08/15/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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...Fae is fine as is it's mostly cause it's 75/77° in the house and the wind chill from fanning made them pretty cold to the touch.





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Please build a proper SGFC and put your cakes in there. You might be are making this much more difficult than it need be.

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: morty422]
    #23544270 - 08/15/16 02:26 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Learning the right way and the wrong way to grow from the thread. :thumbup: I just injected my first jars today we will see soon if I did it right.


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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: XnMe]
    #23544310 - 08/15/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Yeah it's not warm enough where there at rn, and I fucked them up with h2o2 when they first came out the jars.
Fae is fine as is it's mostly cause it's 75/77° in the house and the wind chill from fanning made them pretty cold to the touch.
When I get off work there getting moved into a light bulb heated cloths hamper to give a nice humid area.



:rofl: wtf are you even talking about? I've grown cubes outside when it was dropping to 30-40 at night. Some mornings had frost. This isn't a temperature problem. This is a surface hydration and fae problem.

Just follow the tek I linked and then read the misted cakes project that's at the bottom of the tek I showed.

I know you can do it. I really don't understand how you can put in X amount of your time to follow a tek, and get to the point where it's colonized in a jar, and then just stop reading and wing fruiting..


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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Mad Season]
    #23544354 - 08/15/16 03:03 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I know I'm kind of a noob here, but I think you are missing out on something. FAE is there to provide your "baby's" with oxygen. It's not a plant. It needs to breathe air just like we do. The fanning is to eliminate the build up of CO2 at the bottom of the chamber because CO2 is heavier than the air around you. This can fill the chamber with co2 and strangle the 'baby's" Like i said, i haven't been doing this long. someone correct me if i'm wrong about something.

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Synesthesiac]
    #23544368 - 08/15/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Chambers do not fill with co2. Co2 does not settle out of air. It's infinitely miscable with the other gasses in air. If co2 settled we would die from emissions. It kind of settles in gigantic tanks that are sealed closed. By kind of settles it has a higher concentration lower in the tank.

We do not fan for co2 removal. Even the inventor and every single TEK on the SGFC says this. The fanning is optional and is ONLY to remove mist suspended in the air after misting

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Synesthesiac]
    #23544375 - 08/15/16 03:09 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

You're wrong. If co2 settled on the bottom, we'd all be suffocating from the cars and cows all around us. Air currents swirl everything together. Even things MUCH heavier than molecules. Like dust, pollen, spores, etc.

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Mad Season]
    #23544380 - 08/15/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

In 6200 gallon beer fermentation tanks co2 doesn't even settle. A lot of brewers still mistakenly think co2 makes a blanket. Not so. It makes a blanket if it's the only gas you allow in the tank when emptying to so the tank doesn't implode.

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23544383 - 08/15/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

well now I'm really confused. You probably know way more than me and I don't want to hijack this post with more comments. So i'll just take your word for it  lol. thanks for the correction.

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Synesthesiac]
    #23544391 - 08/15/16 03:17 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

It's a very common misconception thank your public education.

Your dumbass science teacher probably had a container of co2 and poured it over a flame. Showing kids forever that co2 is heavier than air. All he was really doing was choking it out. That co2 doesn't keep going down to the floor if you could see it. It would just be expanding out like an explosion

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: bodhisatta]
    #23544397 - 08/15/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

When you smoke, the smoke you blow, does it drop to the ground? It is not only lots of CO2, it's also many other chemicals heavier than the rest of the air molecules. No it swirls and mixes with the air. Same with incense. We don't live in a vacuum where air settles, it's constantly moving.


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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Mad Season]
    #23544472 - 08/15/16 03:50 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

I see what you are saying, but wouldn't a closed box fill up eventually? (like a fc with not enough holes) I am still having trouble understanding why fan at all if it's not the co2 thing? Just to evaporate moisture?

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Re: Say hey to my first babys [Re: Synesthesiac]
    #23544493 - 08/15/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

Yea. It's to kick-start evaporating off the cakes again. Mist suspended in the air. Everyone took fanning too far. It was supposed to be a quick wave of the lid, that's all. It's completely unnecessary. And if you do fan its only immediately after misting

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    #23544514 - 08/15/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

wow. well I am really glad I stumbled on this today, then. I seriously was standing there fanning on a 3 minute timer. man... Gi Joe was right. Learning IS half the battle.

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    #23544662 - 08/15/16 05:05 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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wow. well I am really glad I stumbled on this today, then. I seriously was standing there fanning on a 3 minute timer. man... Gi Joe was right. Learning IS half the battle.




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Dude Sgfc. and St.....


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wow. well I am really glad I stumbled on this today, then. I seriously was standing there fanning on a 3 minute timer. man... Gi Joe was right. Learning IS half the battle.




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    #23545159 - 08/15/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 10 months ago)

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Lol everyone just throwing there knowledge out there like a giant knowledge dick




please stay on topic and try to refrain from posting giant stupid memes

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