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Have you ever had psychedelic revelations?
    #23541960 - 08/14/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

By "psychedelic revelations", I am not asking about philosophical realizations such as that we are all one or whatever.  What I mean is that the experience basically told you what the "right path" to take was, pertaining to a real-life matter.  Maybe the experience told you what career path to follow, or gave you an epiphany about how to solve a relationship problem.

If you have had a revelation of this sort, did you adhere to the revelation?  And if so, did it turn out to be a correct one?  Also was the trip itself pleasant or unpleasant?

In addition, which psychedelic substance did you use?


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542088 - 08/14/16 08:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've had those kinds of lessons, or "revelations" on LSD, 2CB, Mushrooms and DMT... Hell even MDMA taught me something very specific.

I would place mushrooms and DMT in a different category as far as the kinds of Revelations I got for myself personally because on those two it's always worked a little different for me.

2CB and LSD both showed me things during the trips about my own personal mind. They would tell me what I'm doing right or wrong, what I need to stop doing ASAP, what is good about what I'm doing. Basically they pointed directly to my own 'Personal-Psyche'. And they could both be pretty harsh. They could just rail on me for what felt like hours about some shitty things about myself. On 2CB recently the trips had focused a lot on the fact that I judge people very harshly. And that I only do that because I am insecure about myself. It was an obvious lesson.
Both 2CB and LSD can leave me with some very hard lessons. The trips aren't always bad though. Almost every time it was a mixture of amazing beauty, and the critical lesson I was taught during the trip. After the trips' over the lesson I learned is stuck in my head and I can see moments in my life for days or weeks after where I can take advantage of what I learned and better myself.
But I've had trips on both 2CB and LSD where the entire trip was basically nothing but the Psychedelics telling me everything I do wrong and why I'm such a terrible person, etc... With almost no beautiful, redeeming aspect to the trip at all. (Those were my only 2 'bad trips')


On Mushrooms and DMT it's usually much different. Those two always show me extremely profound things about what it means to be a human being. What it means to be alive, what it means to be living on this planet and in this universe, what it means to be conscious. Very deep things that aren't directly pointing to my own personal mind. More pointing to the universal mind. The earth. The human species. All of that stuff.
For me, they don't directly say during the trip: "Hey. Here's you. Here's what's good and bad about you. Here's what you need to fix or change." They give more profound revelations, like: "You're a member of an extremely intelligent species. You have a responsibility for yourself and others. You are part of an intelligent universe."

So the Tryptamines, for me, are always about much more general, profound, deep lessons. Of course, they get to the "personal" stuff too. But it's like that's just a side-effect of the real lessons they teach you. Which in my own opinion, are much deeper and life-changing.

Mushrooms and DMT for me have taught me some harsh things, but the trip always had a very strong optimism about it. Like a force pushing me from behind saying: "You have some things that you need to work out, but you can do it. You can do it. Believe in yourself." So that feeling of optimism always pushed me through the trip even when it got rough. And makes the trips almost always incredibly beautiful even when it's teaching me harsh lessons.

And on MDMA... Well MDMA taught me some things about my relationship with my parents that I changed soon after. The whole experience on MDMA was absolutely euphoric, obviously.

But to be honest. I feel like Mushrooms and DMT teach me everything that other Psychedelics can. They just don't focus on those things. They teach you about your own human-ness, then you come back and fix things yourself with this new understanding you have about yourself. They just take a bigger leap of faith. but it's worth it.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler] * 1
    #23542092 - 08/14/16 08:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mushroom:  "Stop drinking"                Me:  "Good idea"

Mushroom:  "Quit gambling"                Me:  "sure"

Mushroom:  "Become a vegetarian"          Me:  "yeah, that's healthy"

Mushroom:  "Pierce your penis with this knife,
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            will replenish the earth. You are God" 
                                                  Me:  "Now you're being silly"


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: VedicSoma]
    #23542102 - 08/14/16 08:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Mushroom:  "Stop drinking"                Me:  "Good idea"

Mushroom:  "Quit gambling"                Me:  "sure"

Mushroom:  "Become a vegetarian"          Me:  "yeah, that's healthy"

Mushroom:  "Pierce your penis with this knife,
            so the drops of your sacred blood
            will replenish the earth. You are God" 
                                                  Me:  "Now you're being silly"




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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23542108 - 08/14/16 08:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I've had those kinds of lessons, or "revelations" on LSD, 2CB, Mushrooms and DMT... Hell even MDMA taught me something very specific.

I would place mushrooms and DMT in a different category as far as the kinds of Revelations I got for myself personally because on those two it's always worked a little different for me.

2CB and LSD both showed me things during the trips about my own personal mind. They would tell me what I'm doing right or wrong, what I need to stop doing ASAP, what is good about what I'm doing. Basically they pointed directly to my own 'Personal-Psyche'. And they could both be pretty harsh. They could just rail on me for what felt like hours about some shitty things about myself. On 2CB recently the trips had focused a lot on the fact that I judge people very harshly. And that I only do that because I am insecure about myself. It was an obvious lesson.
Both 2CB and LSD can leave me with some very hard lessons. The trips aren't always bad though. Almost every time it was a mixture of amazing beauty, and the critical lesson I was taught during the trip. After the trips' over the lesson I learned is stuck in my head and I can see moments in my life for days or weeks after where I can take advantage of what I learned and better myself.
But I've had trips on both 2CB and LSD where the entire trip was basically nothing but the Psychedelics telling me everything I do wrong and why I'm such a terrible person, etc... With almost no beautiful, redeeming aspect to the trip at all. (Those were my only 2 'bad trips')


On Mushrooms and DMT it's usually much different. Those two always show me extremely profound things about what it means to be a human being. What it means to be alive, what it means to be living on this planet and in this universe, what it means to be conscious. Very deep things that aren't directly pointing to my own personal mind. More pointing to the universal mind. The earth. The human species. All of that stuff.
For me, they don't directly say during the trip: "Hey. Here's you. Here's what's good and bad about you. Here's what you need to fix or change." They give more profound revelations, like: "You're a member of an extremely intelligent species. You have a responsibility for yourself and others. You are part of an intelligent universe."

So the Tryptamines, for me, are always about much more general, profound, deep lessons. Of course, they get to the "personal" stuff too. But it's like that's just a side-effect of the real lessons they teach you. Which in my own opinion, are much deeper and life-changing.

Mushrooms and DMT for me have taught me some harsh things, but the trip always had a very strong optimism about it. Like a force pushing me from behind saying: "You have some things that you need to work out, but you can do it. You can do it. Believe in yourself." So that feeling of optimism always pushed me through the trip even when it got rough. And makes the trips almost always incredibly beautiful even when it's teaching me harsh lessons.

And on MDMA... Well MDMA taught me some things about my relationship with my parents that I changed soon after. The whole experience on MDMA was absolutely euphoric, obviously.

But to be honest. I feel like Mushrooms and DMT teach me everything that other Psychedelics can. They just don't focus on those things. They teach you about your own human-ness, then you come back and fix things yourself with this new understanding you have about yourself. They just take a bigger leap of faith. but it's worth it.




I liked your response.  The reason I am asking this though is because of a mescaline trip I had several years ago.  It taught me more personal lessons than the type of lessons that you say you get from the tryptamines (I know mescaline isn't a tryptamine).


How "correct" would you say your MDMA revelation was?


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542141 - 08/14/16 08:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I guess the MDMA lesson wasn't as obvious as 2CB or LSD (or probably mescaline) are.

It was like MDMA made me feel really good and confident about myself for a while. I called up a girl I had been sort of talking to, told her I was on MDMA, and then we had a conversation that was very open and honest that I'm glad we had. Then I got clear CEV's at the peak. The CEV's didn't really teach me anything themselves but felt and looked really beautiful. The experience basically left me with a strong Self-Justification.

That self-justification lingered on a couple days. Then on the 3rd day I got the 'After-effects' from MDMA. Interestingly enough, it was during the recovery-period from the MDMA hangover when I felt kind of down and empty when I realized the thing about my relationship to my parents.

While i was in "recovery-mode" I could feel my mind healing back to its' normal state. During the healing period I realized that I was much too distant from my parents and should begin speaking to them at least every once in a while about something that wold not cause us to fight and would brighten their day at least a little bit.

That lesson was undoubtedly 'correct'. And the actions I took after getting that insight were undoubtedly good, correct actions to take.

MDMA taught me in a much less obvious, clear-cut way though. So saying it was 'Correct' is a little bit of an awkward way to put it, but it definitely was. No doubt in my mind.

Also. During the healing period I noticed an increased ability to see things from different viewpoints and solve problems from new angles. Which I think stuck with but. But which you also generally get from all Psychedelics.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542162 - 08/14/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I've followed revelations obtained from mushrooms quite a few times.  The information from hyperspace is pretty damn accurate IME.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23542166 - 08/14/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I've followed revelations obtained from mushrooms quite a few times.  The information from hyperspace is pretty damn accurate IME.




Were they concrete revelations pertaining to your personal life (i.e. I should say this to that person, or do this with my life)?  Or were they more abstract and philosophical in nature?


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23542183 - 08/14/16 08:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes. I have had revelations while using cacti about resolving issues about myself. Anger, hate, self loathing. Those revelations and the continued learning process has changed the direction of my life. Im a better person. None of that stereotypical hippie type stuff... I still eat meat and work for a living and am a member of society, I'm just a better person learning to deal with my demons in a new way. The sacred cacti allows me to confront my demons in a literal sense and learn how to move on.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542216 - 08/14/16 09:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yes.I learned that im okay. cant adhere


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542311 - 08/14/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I've followed revelations obtained from mushrooms quite a few times.  The information from hyperspace is pretty damn accurate IME.




Were they concrete revelations pertaining to your personal life (i.e. I should say this to that person, or do this with my life)?  Or were they more abstract and philosophical in nature?




No they were concrete and very accurate - played out just as shown.  But part of the deal about having and following them is not really being able to discuss in any detail what exactly happened.  Or at least I don't want to take that step - this has happened before with mushroom related information. 

Sometimes, though, they are physiological (medical), me or other people; sometimes they are psychological - to do this particular thing to solve a particular problem; sometimes they are more general purpose, at other times quite specific and detailed.  So I'd yes this kind of thing happens, and it's certainly something you can find lots of corroboration for in shamanic tradition (which is what I consider all of it to be).


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23542326 - 08/14/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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[  But part of the deal about having and following them is not really being able to discuss in any detail what exactly happened.  Or at least I don't want to take that step - this has happened before with mushroom related information. 






Is the reason why you don't want to discuss it because you feel it was meant to be your secret?


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: PrimalSoup]
    #23542331 - 08/14/16 09:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mushrooms totally helped in my drinking and pills intake. It showed me parts of myself that I knew had to change. Not even inshowing visions but more just a way of thinking and analyzing myself.

It can be so personal and you can feel very vunerable at those points so it is hard to talk about. Very private alot of the time.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542433 - 08/14/16 10:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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[  But part of the deal about having and following them is not really being able to discuss in any detail what exactly happened.  Or at least I don't want to take that step - this has happened before with mushroom related information. 






Is the reason why you don't want to discuss it because you feel it was meant to be your secret?





No, it's that every time I try to discuss it for some reason I can't.  It's happened before, it's like people have to come upon this stuff for themselves, they can't get it by explanation.  It's like what I've heard about shamanic tools, you don't ever show them to people or the power leaks out somehow.  This is one of those things that just is that way, I can't explain why exactly.  Probably it doesn't matter why. :shrug:


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23542445 - 08/14/16 10:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sure, all the time. I can't tell if it helps one way or the other.

Mainly it helps when my decision making process is roadblocked. It's much easier to come to a decision and stick to it on psychedelics. I haven't always had the best follow through.

When I have followed through, I am unconvinced about whether the actions/decisions had a good/bad impact. I feel like they've had a lot of good impacts, but I can also think of other times when it didn't matter, or still other times when it had a negative impact. Some have been very good, others have been very bad.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: VedicSoma]
    #23542777 - 08/15/16 02:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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VedicSoma said:
Mushroom:  "Stop drinking"                Me:  "Good idea"

Mushroom:  "Quit gambling"                Me:  "sure"

Mushroom:  "Become a vegetarian"          Me:  "yeah, that's healthy"

Mushroom:  "Pierce your penis with this knife,
            so the drops of your sacred blood
            will replenish the earth. You are God" 
                                                  Me:  "Now you're being silly"




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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Mike4aco]
    #23542796 - 08/15/16 02:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

5 years ago I started my run on psychedelics, all I can say is that before my first LSD trip which was a bit intense taking 3 hits accidentally rated at 120ug from what was supposed to be "Dali's" not to mention it shook the world underneath my feet... I was a complete asshole to my friends, my family and everyone around me.
Something from that moment on just changed in me as I started to see things in another blissful way, I am completely unimaginably ashamed of who I was, which until today 5 years later I find myself beating myself up for my past, it completely changed me into who I am today and I'm in awe for psych's for what they've thought me.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: psilosalvia]
    #23543052 - 08/15/16 06:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yes and I believe now that while some of them can actually be true and from a higher existence

most of it is just drug induced mania, I've had it convince me I was an angel, a girl I liked was an angel etc. etc.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23543185 - 08/15/16 08:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Revelation is a strange word to use if you are talking about mundane stuff like careers and relationship problems, seeing as the wikipedia definition is also perfectly possible while you are tripping:

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the revealing or disclosing of some form of truth or knowledge through communication with a deity or other supernatural entity or entities




In terms of personal stuff, I find that the beginning of a mushroom trip can often involve a lot of personal introspection where I get a clear perspective about what I should do about a particular personal or relationship issue. This part of a trip is usually uncomfortable for me and there is a sense of "uncomfortable truths" being revealed. It's also good for getting a kind of disconnected, external viewpoint on your life.

There is also the more manic kind of personal revelations I can get during the main part of a trip (although to be honest if the main part of a trip is dwelling on real life then I'm pissed off because the trip is too weak to get the point where real life is an irrelevance). These can be more delusional, such as crazy business ideas that would never work, although I do get some very interesting "out of the box" thinking going on and I think you could use this stuff to generate interesting ideas in a business context....

Often I think to myself: "of course, yes, this idea will solve all my problems!" which it never does.

I'd say overall some of the more introspective "mushroom advice" is actually quite sensible, but the plans laid down in the main part of a trip would be hard to follow because it's giving me suggestions that would only be realistic if I could carry on my "tripping personality" into my real life. Just as you can't maintain a drunken bravado when you are sober, I can't live life in the kind of manic state that would be required to implement some of these ideas....

I think shrooms are good for reflection and giving you ideas, but not necessarily a big help when it comes to achieving stuff in real life, because the grind of daily life and work is pulling you in the opposite direction, where you have to take on a very non-psychedelic persona just to get through the working day.

In fact, I think shrooms are best for achieving a sense of inner peace which enables you to drop the pretence that by changing a few insignificant things your life would suddenly dramatically improve.....so maybe its a kind of internal change that they help you to implement.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23543353 - 08/15/16 09:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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On Mushrooms and DMT it's usually much different. Those two always show me extremely profound things about what it means to be a human being. What it means to be alive, what it means to be living on this planet and in this universe, what it means to be conscious. Very deep things that aren't directly pointing to my own personal mind.





Ya I found the reevaluations and epiphanies on mushrooms to be not so personal, a lot of people regard mushrooms as being one of the most introspective psychedelics but for me I was way too small and unimportant for the mushrooms to focus on me in particular. The mushrooms seemed to have much bigger things to deal with. It was almost like "we don't have time for you but look at all this!"


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23544567 - 08/15/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, right on. I don't know why some people say that mushrooms are the 'harsh teacher' psychedelic. I figure maybe I just haven't gotten to that point yet. But then again, I've done mushrooms many many times and it's always that experience like you said where it's teaching you "bigger" more important things.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23544683 - 08/15/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yes but I think it can still be a harsh teacher in ways it just doesn't focus on the self or introspection as much as some other psychedelics. I think it's very good at making someone aware of unhealthy patterns of behavior more than things like LSD but overall when I'm doing mushrooms it feels like I'm watching a show separate from myself to an extent. What I'm being shown on mushrooms feels more "new" than what I'm shown on other psychedelics and more orthogonal to the human world.

On LSD it feels like I'm in the show and I'm making it up and participating in it as I go along but this "show" mostly centers around me personally and my life not so much the bigger stuff like humanity and higher dimensions like with the fungus :mushroom2:

This is another reason why DMT interests me heavily because it seems far less personal and more about just seeing new things and traveling new places. That's another thing...mushrooms feels way more comparable to traveling than other hallucinogens.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23544760 - 08/15/16 05:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with you actually. Mushrooms do teach me hard things a lot, but doesn't focus on my own personal mind as much.

Oh yeah. DMT is definitely similar to mushrooms in that it's not about figuring out your personal Psychology so much as it is about traveling to an amazingly beautiful, other world.

DMT and Mushrooms both feel like traveling to another planet. I've compared Mushrooms and DMT to myself this way:

On Mushrooms you're getting into the spaceship, and traveling on the alien planet for a while and finally you end up meeting the aliens and seeing all kinds of new amazing things.

On DMT the aliens crash land in front of your house and knock down your door to get into your bedroom and see you and want to present you with the amazing 4-Dimensional objects and what not.

When you meet them you notice that they're realllyyyyy excited to see you. Makes ya feel kinda special. :tongue2:


And also kinda freaked out at the same time. Haha. But that just goes with the experience. So I guess Mushrooms is like traveling, while DMT is more like the aliens/entities/whatever rushing to meet you.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23544794 - 08/15/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Mushrooms you're getting into the spaceship, and traveling on the alien planet for a while and finally you end up meeting the aliens and seeing all kinds of new amazing things.




:thumbup:
My most life changing mushroom trip actually made me feel like my living room was a hyperreal intergalactic spaceship :lol:


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: AuroraBorealis88]
    #23545350 - 08/15/16 08:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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This is another reason why DMT interests me heavily because it seems far less personal and more about just seeing new things and traveling new places. That's another thing...mushrooms feels way more comparable to traveling than other hallucinogens.




It's interesting to me how subjective this seems to be, because for me, while DMT obviously took me "traveling to new places", a couple of trips were extremely introspective for me.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23546484 - 08/16/16 10:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I had a pretty breathtaking revelation on my most recent lsd trip about a month ago pertaining to which direction I should take my life, now I cannot say it showed me WHICH direction you know? I think it was brought on by the recognition of one's own drive on lsd, has anyone else had those moments where you can recognize your drive so much and your kinda stuck between doing one thing and another like ugh-ugh-ugh you kinda can't make up your mind and your more likely to adhere to suggestive stimuli- well that happened to me more than now when I was more naive to lsd and the psychedelic experience, well anyways after experiencing that multiple times on my first breakthrough trip I found that one way of combating not knowing what to do is to don't, well I applied this to everyday life and found that in some situations it really helps to don't and kinda just absorb into your mind and take a step back and enjoy the view, well I realized if I kept "donting" I would just be stuck at one point in life letting the waves crash over top of me, well back to the trip I began with talking about, on this most recent trip I decided to really ponder how I could be me and take my life in the direction I wanted it to go but I didn't know where I wanted it to go so I just didn't take it anywhere I realized I was making a grave mistake, what I realized was that i can't let myself be stuck between options not knowing which way to go or to start one thing then give up and try another then give up, no what I really needed to do was to just jump at one thing with all my night and stick to it and see how far I could go, because isn't life really just seeing "how far" you can go, how much you can progress in a career how much money you can make how much life you can experience, so the best thing I learned from psychedelics so for regarding a life path is to,that never second guess myself and put my all into whatever I decide on a whim to do and to give it my all and only look back when I feel of gained what I wanted from going one direction and to only to look back for long enough to spot another wave to ride. Hope this makes sense! As I'm sure many of you know even the best explanations of psychedelic experiences and revelations dont come close to the real thing. Peace guys!


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Libbz]
    #23546490 - 08/16/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

All the time.. Isn't that why we take them? To find out about the self? I am constantly reassured that I am on the right path, and my heart lights up when I think of my future and my career. Breaking through on DMT is an art form, not everyone can do it, and not everyone knows how. But most people want to, no one can truly tell you how to explore the self, no one can imbed the courage and self discipline it takes to respect psychs as medicine and put yourself into the deep end, it's easy to explore, most people are just scared of what they'll find, they are scared of themselves.


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In The Magical World One seeks Enlightenment and grows Wiser
In The Miraculous World One seeks nothing and grows Lighter
As we all tread the Homeward Path we will explore many Realms
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Different ways in which The
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: VedicSoma]
    #23546501 - 08/16/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ahahahah those are the thoughts that just come flowing through with wise ones that just get you caught up for a second like, wait what..... Just before burts of hysterical laughter. love it.


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23546519 - 08/16/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey eclipse3130, I've yet to try dmt and have heard a lot about "breaking through" I've used that term for lsd and mushroom experiences for lack of a better term, just a question, would breaking through on dmt be considered as opening the doors of perception? Like eventually realizing the power of your mind and gaining the ability to look beyond this world and focus on what is "above" like I've learned on other psychs,kinda unsure on what breaking through on dmt is and wondering if it's similar to what you can do on others, obviously dmt would be much more intense unless a huge dose of l is taken, sorry if my question is unclear not sure the best way to phrase just really curious about dmt I plan on trying it soon


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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Celestial Traveler]
    #23546538 - 08/16/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What I have gathered from psychedelic revelations, has improved my life greatly.  Several of them include quitting smoking cigs, putting emphasis on all aspects of my health (body, mind, soul), realizing my worth and working to spread that feeling to others, quitting heroin, putting my pride aside in a situation even when I know I am correct because some people might not realize what I am getting at, and it is my responsibility to show patience with them.

Some of these you would think would come naturally without psychs, and yes they have before, but psychedelics really show myself the future of how those things are going to affect me in a balls to the wall way, as well as how they affect others, they show you in a way which can't be shrugged off easily.  You might say you want to quit doing something, but then you are around people that enable those negative behaviors you want to change, so you make excuses to yourself to continue on doing what you're doing.  Then you dose a hefty dose, and that substance grabs you by the balls and says "knock it off dumbass, knock it off NOW" and you listen as if the voice of God just commanded you.:grin:

It's like if I don't listen to the lessons being shown by the teacher plants/fungi, it puts me in a horrible depression that can only be lifted from changing what I need to change.

Pretty much the majority of brainstorming I have done, which have come up with several things I could create/do to make a good bit of money, were due to psychedelic experiences.  One of them was very close to setting me up for the rest of my life, and would have been the thing I wanted to do forever, but the situation I was in with a person really screwed it up for me, but it would still be possible to do I would just need the space to do so, which since moving I have not really had.

I don't think that was life telling me I shouldn't be doing that, I think it was life telling me to get away from the people that were around me then because they were toxic individuals.



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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Libbz]
    #23546649 - 08/16/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hey eclipse3130, I've yet to try dmt and have heard a lot about "breaking through" I've used that term for lsd and mushroom experiences for lack of a better term, just a question, would breaking through on dmt be considered as opening the doors of perception? Like eventually realizing the power of your mind and gaining the ability to look beyond this world and focus on what is "above" like I've learned on other psychs,kinda unsure on what breaking through on dmt is and wondering if it's similar to what you can do on others, obviously dmt would be much more intense unless a huge dose of l is taken, sorry if my question is unclear not sure the best way to phrase just really curious about dmt I plan on trying it soon




It's supposed to have stages:
""Taking off
The first step of a DMT trip is the come up that leads onto an experience commonly referred to as "breaking through."[6] This seems to have at least a few different ways of presenting itself to the user.
The first thing that a person notices is an extremely distinct set of visual enhancements such an increase in visual acuity and colour intensity. This is followed by a sudden onset of high level 3 geometry which increases in its intensity until it envelopes and covers the external environment. These effects are often accompanied by auditory hallucinations such as soft crackling sounds or high pitched extended tones. There is also the possibility of accompanying physical sensations as one "breaks through." These can include feelings of suddenly being pushed through and onto the other side of a membrane or feelings of shooting through space at high speeds.
The waiting room
Almost immediately after a person has smoked enough DMT to have "broken through", they often find themselves spending a brief amount of time in what is described as a psychedelic "waiting room" or "loading screen." This can take any form but generally appears in the shape of a tunnel or comprised of fast-moving geometry. This lasts approximately 10 – 20 seconds and feels qualitatively different from other stages of the trip.
The other side
Once the waiting period is over, the user will feel that they have "broken through" onto the other side. It is here where users experience intense level 7 geometry and level 3 - 4 internal hallucinations. It's worth noting that although experiences vary between individuals, DMT trips often follow common archetypes, scenarios, content and plots. These scenarios generally consist of visiting what appears to be an alternate reality that is often described to contain autonomous entities, settings, sceneries, and landscapes as well as themes of a cosmic or transcendental nature.
Coming down
The final stage is experienced as the sensation of being pulled further and further away from the scenario until it is no longer visible and one finds themselves back in reality. This is accompanied by level 3 - 4 geometry as well as a sense of euphoria and awe. The moderate to mild geometry stays for a further 10 – 15 minutes before disappearing completely, leaving a strong "body high" that stays for up to an hour."


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