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mctaveesh
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Yeah, right on. I don't know why some people say that mushrooms are the 'harsh teacher' psychedelic. I figure maybe I just haven't gotten to that point yet. But then again, I've done mushrooms many many times and it's always that experience like you said where it's teaching you "bigger" more important things.
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23544683 - 08/15/16 05:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yes but I think it can still be a harsh teacher in ways it just doesn't focus on the self or introspection as much as some other psychedelics. I think it's very good at making someone aware of unhealthy patterns of behavior more than things like LSD but overall when I'm doing mushrooms it feels like I'm watching a show separate from myself to an extent. What I'm being shown on mushrooms feels more "new" than what I'm shown on other psychedelics and more orthogonal to the human world.
On LSD it feels like I'm in the show and I'm making it up and participating in it as I go along but this "show" mostly centers around me personally and my life not so much the bigger stuff like humanity and higher dimensions like with the fungus
This is another reason why DMT interests me heavily because it seems far less personal and more about just seeing new things and traveling new places. That's another thing...mushrooms feels way more comparable to traveling than other hallucinogens.
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mctaveesh
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I agree with you actually. Mushrooms do teach me hard things a lot, but doesn't focus on my own personal mind as much.
Oh yeah. DMT is definitely similar to mushrooms in that it's not about figuring out your personal Psychology so much as it is about traveling to an amazingly beautiful, other world.
DMT and Mushrooms both feel like traveling to another planet. I've compared Mushrooms and DMT to myself this way:
On Mushrooms you're getting into the spaceship, and traveling on the alien planet for a while and finally you end up meeting the aliens and seeing all kinds of new amazing things.
On DMT the aliens crash land in front of your house and knock down your door to get into your bedroom and see you and want to present you with the amazing 4-Dimensional objects and what not.
When you meet them you notice that they're realllyyyyy excited to see you. Makes ya feel kinda special. 
And also kinda freaked out at the same time. Haha. But that just goes with the experience. So I guess Mushrooms is like traveling, while DMT is more like the aliens/entities/whatever rushing to meet you.
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Edited by mctaveesh (08/15/16 05:38 PM)
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: mctaveesh]
#23544794 - 08/15/16 05:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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mctaveesh said: Mushrooms you're getting into the spaceship, and traveling on the alien planet for a while and finally you end up meeting the aliens and seeing all kinds of new amazing things.
 My most life changing mushroom trip actually made me feel like my living room was a hyperreal intergalactic spaceship
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Celestial Traveler
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AuroraBorealis88 said:
This is another reason why DMT interests me heavily because it seems far less personal and more about just seeing new things and traveling new places. That's another thing...mushrooms feels way more comparable to traveling than other hallucinogens.
It's interesting to me how subjective this seems to be, because for me, while DMT obviously took me "traveling to new places", a couple of trips were extremely introspective for me.
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Libbz
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I had a pretty breathtaking revelation on my most recent lsd trip about a month ago pertaining to which direction I should take my life, now I cannot say it showed me WHICH direction you know? I think it was brought on by the recognition of one's own drive on lsd, has anyone else had those moments where you can recognize your drive so much and your kinda stuck between doing one thing and another like ugh-ugh-ugh you kinda can't make up your mind and your more likely to adhere to suggestive stimuli- well that happened to me more than now when I was more naive to lsd and the psychedelic experience, well anyways after experiencing that multiple times on my first breakthrough trip I found that one way of combating not knowing what to do is to don't, well I applied this to everyday life and found that in some situations it really helps to don't and kinda just absorb into your mind and take a step back and enjoy the view, well I realized if I kept "donting" I would just be stuck at one point in life letting the waves crash over top of me, well back to the trip I began with talking about, on this most recent trip I decided to really ponder how I could be me and take my life in the direction I wanted it to go but I didn't know where I wanted it to go so I just didn't take it anywhere I realized I was making a grave mistake, what I realized was that i can't let myself be stuck between options not knowing which way to go or to start one thing then give up and try another then give up, no what I really needed to do was to just jump at one thing with all my night and stick to it and see how far I could go, because isn't life really just seeing "how far" you can go, how much you can progress in a career how much money you can make how much life you can experience, so the best thing I learned from psychedelics so for regarding a life path is to,that never second guess myself and put my all into whatever I decide on a whim to do and to give it my all and only look back when I feel of gained what I wanted from going one direction and to only to look back for long enough to spot another wave to ride. Hope this makes sense! As I'm sure many of you know even the best explanations of psychedelic experiences and revelations dont come close to the real thing. Peace guys!
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Eclipse3130
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Libbz]
#23546490 - 08/16/16 10:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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All the time.. Isn't that why we take them? To find out about the self? I am constantly reassured that I am on the right path, and my heart lights up when I think of my future and my career. Breaking through on DMT is an art form, not everyone can do it, and not everyone knows how. But most people want to, no one can truly tell you how to explore the self, no one can imbed the courage and self discipline it takes to respect psychs as medicine and put yourself into the deep end, it's easy to explore, most people are just scared of what they'll find, they are scared of themselves.
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Edited by Eclipse3130 (08/16/16 10:18 AM)
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Libbz
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: VedicSoma]
#23546501 - 08/16/16 10:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ahahahah those are the thoughts that just come flowing through with wise ones that just get you caught up for a second like, wait what..... Just before burts of hysterical laughter. love it.
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Libbz
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Eclipse3130]
#23546519 - 08/16/16 10:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey eclipse3130, I've yet to try dmt and have heard a lot about "breaking through" I've used that term for lsd and mushroom experiences for lack of a better term, just a question, would breaking through on dmt be considered as opening the doors of perception? Like eventually realizing the power of your mind and gaining the ability to look beyond this world and focus on what is "above" like I've learned on other psychs,kinda unsure on what breaking through on dmt is and wondering if it's similar to what you can do on others, obviously dmt would be much more intense unless a huge dose of l is taken, sorry if my question is unclear not sure the best way to phrase just really curious about dmt I plan on trying it soon
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Lucis
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What I have gathered from psychedelic revelations, has improved my life greatly. Several of them include quitting smoking cigs, putting emphasis on all aspects of my health (body, mind, soul), realizing my worth and working to spread that feeling to others, quitting heroin, putting my pride aside in a situation even when I know I am correct because some people might not realize what I am getting at, and it is my responsibility to show patience with them.
Some of these you would think would come naturally without psychs, and yes they have before, but psychedelics really show myself the future of how those things are going to affect me in a balls to the wall way, as well as how they affect others, they show you in a way which can't be shrugged off easily. You might say you want to quit doing something, but then you are around people that enable those negative behaviors you want to change, so you make excuses to yourself to continue on doing what you're doing. Then you dose a hefty dose, and that substance grabs you by the balls and says "knock it off dumbass, knock it off NOW" and you listen as if the voice of God just commanded you.
It's like if I don't listen to the lessons being shown by the teacher plants/fungi, it puts me in a horrible depression that can only be lifted from changing what I need to change.
Pretty much the majority of brainstorming I have done, which have come up with several things I could create/do to make a good bit of money, were due to psychedelic experiences. One of them was very close to setting me up for the rest of my life, and would have been the thing I wanted to do forever, but the situation I was in with a person really screwed it up for me, but it would still be possible to do I would just need the space to do so, which since moving I have not really had.
I don't think that was life telling me I shouldn't be doing that, I think it was life telling me to get away from the people that were around me then because they were toxic individuals.
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Edited by Lucis (08/16/16 10:59 AM)
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AuroraBorealis88
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Re: Have you ever had psychedelic revelations? [Re: Libbz]
#23546649 - 08/16/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Libbz said: Hey eclipse3130, I've yet to try dmt and have heard a lot about "breaking through" I've used that term for lsd and mushroom experiences for lack of a better term, just a question, would breaking through on dmt be considered as opening the doors of perception? Like eventually realizing the power of your mind and gaining the ability to look beyond this world and focus on what is "above" like I've learned on other psychs,kinda unsure on what breaking through on dmt is and wondering if it's similar to what you can do on others, obviously dmt would be much more intense unless a huge dose of l is taken, sorry if my question is unclear not sure the best way to phrase just really curious about dmt I plan on trying it soon
It's supposed to have stages: ""Taking off The first step of a DMT trip is the come up that leads onto an experience commonly referred to as "breaking through."[6] This seems to have at least a few different ways of presenting itself to the user. The first thing that a person notices is an extremely distinct set of visual enhancements such an increase in visual acuity and colour intensity. This is followed by a sudden onset of high level 3 geometry which increases in its intensity until it envelopes and covers the external environment. These effects are often accompanied by auditory hallucinations such as soft crackling sounds or high pitched extended tones. There is also the possibility of accompanying physical sensations as one "breaks through." These can include feelings of suddenly being pushed through and onto the other side of a membrane or feelings of shooting through space at high speeds. The waiting room Almost immediately after a person has smoked enough DMT to have "broken through", they often find themselves spending a brief amount of time in what is described as a psychedelic "waiting room" or "loading screen." This can take any form but generally appears in the shape of a tunnel or comprised of fast-moving geometry. This lasts approximately 10 – 20 seconds and feels qualitatively different from other stages of the trip. The other side Once the waiting period is over, the user will feel that they have "broken through" onto the other side. It is here where users experience intense level 7 geometry and level 3 - 4 internal hallucinations. It's worth noting that although experiences vary between individuals, DMT trips often follow common archetypes, scenarios, content and plots. These scenarios generally consist of visiting what appears to be an alternate reality that is often described to contain autonomous entities, settings, sceneries, and landscapes as well as themes of a cosmic or transcendental nature. Coming down The final stage is experienced as the sensation of being pulled further and further away from the scenario until it is no longer visible and one finds themselves back in reality. This is accompanied by level 3 - 4 geometry as well as a sense of euphoria and awe. The moderate to mild geometry stays for a further 10 – 15 minutes before disappearing completely, leaving a strong "body high" that stays for up to an hour."
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