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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23583512 - 08/27/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I dont have a religion :shrug:


Even if spc were to somehow prove that Islam is "worse," so what? Whats the cutoff for number of genocides before your religion is recognized as bad?

Its such an incredibly stupid argument.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23583534 - 08/27/16 01:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i think the point is to understand in what positions these "sides" are in. US has so much power, military, political, and economic, while Islam is not a collective unit that can be labelled as such. you have to look at each social nuance specifically to understand their societies, none of which are huge players globally; regionally thats different of course. Iran, Iraq, and Saudi all have some regional power, all are muslim, they arent friendly to one another either. so its interesting to see how power, in this case the US, uses these regional players in their political chess match. ...at least thats what i'm trying to point out.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583547 - 08/27/16 01:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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i believe i mentioned power dynamics, if you cant read the full message earlier well go back. please, enlighten me, why did the US invade Iraq?





you mean this?

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the answers are there, stop just denying events and read then you might see that you're wrong





or was it this


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US is an imperial power, you just dont believe it and then you cant read anything contrary to what you're saying. the answers are there, stop just denying events and read then you might see that you're wrong. you might deny they are after oil, but they are also in a game with Iran, because the US supports Saudi arabia and russia wants to build a pipeline from iran to russia to supply europe with oil - and they are already Europes biggest energy supplier, the US is trying to compete and destabilize so that israel can become the regional power. Iraq is still powerful but now they have invaded and since the invasion they have simply fostered internal conflict to displace their regional power.





well let's look at proposed iranian pipelines

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and pipelines into russia

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your statements dont make a lot of sense and dont mesh with reality and certainly dont answer by question which was


"why did the US invade Iraq?"


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: Prisoner#1] * 1
    #23583619 - 08/27/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

how would wars around those pipelines affect power in the regions? theres a good one for you. so youve shown that I knew about pipelines in the area and you didn't until now. and so you've shown how conflict in these areas could affect economics of various region and global powers.. the natural gas is energy that russia provides europe...that one proposed oil line youve shown..

they are rearranging power relations regionally - thats why - and your maps have show that oil and other energy is big in the region.its a big process, and will take a while so now please, i'm asking you, why did the US invade iraq?


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583623 - 08/27/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

do you think the US would prefer a pipeline from Saudi? one of their allies?


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583625 - 08/27/16 01:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

"why did the US invade Iraq?"


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #23583630 - 08/27/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

youre repeating yourself....lets hear your explanation....


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe] * 1
    #23583648 - 08/27/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why did the US invade Iraq? The neoconservative movement wanted to put their ideology of democratization into practice.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: koods]
    #23583681 - 08/27/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

interesting perspective koods, how do neoconservatives benefit from democratization?? and why do they have to do it violently?


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583683 - 08/27/16 02:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

still waiting for you though prisoner


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583696 - 08/27/16 02:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

We should haver attacked Sudi Arabis, taken controll of their oil, and demolished all major religious monuments after 9/11

we gave them the tech to drill. Without us, they would still be desert retards with no resources


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23583698 - 08/27/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

they could say the same about western civilization - they were doing eye surgery and using the first camera when we whites were covered in shit dying of disease and living in squalor.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe] * 1
    #23583702 - 08/27/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

they developed something called culture when living in the desert - rich language and poetry in their desert culture, something americans cant figure out cause the culture is wal mart and fast food.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583735 - 08/27/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thair culture was backwater garbage. Muhammed helped unite the barberic tribes. Europe was late to the game after the Greek and Roman times, but the Islamic world gave up ratonality and


sided with the Nazis


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they could say the same about western civilization - they were doing eye surgery and using the first camera when we whites were covered in shit dying of disease and living in squalor.



The Egyptions were doing eye surgery, the first camera was Chinese I think.

Our tough beginnings only made us better.

You are deflecting though. Right ow, the Islamic world has no good universities, and translate next to o books into Aramaic


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23583751 - 08/27/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.topuniversities.com/where-to-study/region/middle-east/guide

plenty of good schools there.

right. and all of islam, that religion thats not a big giant collective entity sided with nazis. especially those in malaysia right?

lets get back on track, aggressive foreign policy creates violent backlash...the US and the west are the aggressors now.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: anthiawe]
    #23583776 - 08/27/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Thair culture was backwater garbage. Muhammed helped unite the barberic tribes. Europe was late to the game after the Greek and Roman times, but the Islamic world gave up ratonality and





you still don't comprehend how humanity and history has worked for thousands of years before modern civilization. PS: there is still war...and it's not the Muslims that are the only ones perpetrating war. was Saddam Islamic? no.

stop talking so much. you don't know wtf you are talking about. this i called the Grand Chess board, and there's been less to do with culture, since the implication of said chess board, than beforehand -- the time that you speak of. you simply have no clue how civilization and humanity has struggled to get where it is today, and continues to. you have no idea what a CULTURE is. all cultures have fought...the US "culture" continues to fight in areas of the world where this is no call. the US just goes and blows people away...Gaddafi, was he a terrorist? no.

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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: koods]
    #23583792 - 08/27/16 02:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Why did the US invade Iraq? The neoconservative movement wanted to put their ideology of democratization into practice.




Mmmmmm no, im with pris on this one. We re entered Iraq to further surround and isolate Iran.

We only keep these dictators in power so as soon as its advantageous to remove them under the guise of apreading freedom, we can.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23583797 - 08/27/16 02:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i dont think prisoner has answered the question yet.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23583807 - 08/27/16 02:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The grand chessbored nonsense implis more forsight then I think people as a whole have, especially burocracies

Culture is mostly religion

almost completely

Sadam was veri Islamic and supressed the Majority of his country and gassed whole Kurdsish towns


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Re: Racist Muslims at the OlympicsIThe [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23583812 - 08/27/16 02:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

wasn't he supported by the US when he gassed the kurds and invaded kuwait and IRan? yup! i wonder where he got the weapons do those things?

and yes culture is definitely  all religion, very good, A+ for that one.


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