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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23552872 - 08/18/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Does this moron realize neoliberal economics ARE capitalist?


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23552890 - 08/18/16 10:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

no, i don't think he does, either that, or he can't really make himself clear. i don't blame him. not necessarily, not so much. the propaganda is strong as fuck these days. he's literally been tugged along by the lovely corporate molesters whom love his support.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23552927 - 08/18/16 10:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You must know when I say 'liberal' I mean centralized economics. USSR, Scandinavia(failing apart slowly), china. It doesnt work because there isnt any institution anywhere with enough resources to regulate price in an economy.

any economics following Communist lines are idealistic and completely wrong. capitalism is the only way to organize an economy, or, classical 'liberalism'

there is a traditional backlash now, but we are accepting gay marriage The next step is the government trying to make churches merry gays
Just like I cant kick someone out of my business for being black, handicapped, etc. Its completely disgusting. What if I just dont want the person around on my property? Business isnt ome tax payer funded institution belonging to the public



laws are for the weak. you don't like someone, deal with it; unless they're disturbing your business, you should be able to have some decorum, some professionalism, and some tact...not to mention some balls. balls to put up with people you don't like.



You dont seem to get it. That is my proporty. If peple dont like how Im treating them, go next door, make your own buisiness.
Noone is stopping you except the government and sometimes buisinesses that collude with the government to push out other buisinesses by hving permits denied or having regulations in plae that make you have to get approval from local buisinesses of the same kind before you can be permitted to compete

I find those things so disgusting. I cant put words to it.

freedom is the only way to go. communism, socialism, ae completely foolish and have no basis in reality except fanciful idealism.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23552937 - 08/18/16 10:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i don't get it? i'm sure that i do, and it's actually you who doesn't get what i'm saying. sorry bro. let me clarify. if you don't like someone one in your private business, because they *insert anything here* that is not disrupting your business, you are a weak individual. this isn't a legal argument.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23552947 - 08/18/16 11:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Noone is stopping you except the government and sometimes buisinesses that collude with the government to push out other buisinesses by hving permits denied or having regulations in plae that make you have to get approval from local buisinesses of the same kind before you can be permitted to compete

I find those things so disgusting. I cant put words to it.

freedom is the only way to go. communism, socialism, ae completely foolish and have no basis in reality except fanciful idealism.




you're being stopped by yourself by being an asshole and making it widely known that your operations are going to effect business overall and like you would do if that was you, you'd try and stop it, for the sake of your own business.

and all singular political spheres of influence are fanciful idealism.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23552963 - 08/18/16 11:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

where I cme from there are pleanty of people who are problems. Its better just to get them out.
It has nothing to do with being weak. Even if it did, that doesnt mean I should be fined or shut down. Maybe its just someone I get a bad feeling from or dont like. I work there, I pay the bills.

You sound like a child. If someone is renting from me and tey have a dog for their handicap, I shouldnt have to let them rent because their dog is special. Dogs ruin proporty. I shouldnt have to let animals in my place of work at all. animals are disgusting, stupid and unpredictable.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma] * 2
    #23552970 - 08/18/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The closer we get to socioeconomic entropy, the more divisive these hair splitters become.

Pris actually thinks Obama is a socialist because the government regulates health insurance.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23552975 - 08/18/16 11:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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where I cme from there are pleanty of people who are problems. Its better just to get them out.
It has nothing to do with being weak. Even if it did, that doesnt mean I should be fined or shut down. Maybe its just someone I get a bad feeling from or dont like. I work there, I pay the bills.

You sound like a child. If someone is renting from me and tey have a dog for their handicap, I shouldnt have to let them rent because their dog is special. Dogs ruin proporty. I shouldnt have to let animals in my place of work at all. animals are disgusting, stupid and unpredictable.




Just like people :cookiemonster:

Thats why laissez faire capitalism doesnt work


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23552981 - 08/18/16 11:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The closer we get to socioeconomic entropy, the more divisive these hair splitters become.

Pris actually thinks Obama is a socialist because the government regulates health insurance.



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The Ecstatic said:
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specialpeopleclub said:
where I cme from there are pleanty of people who are problems. Its better just to get them out.
It has nothing to do with being weak. Even if it did, that doesnt mean I should be fined or shut down. Maybe its just someone I get a bad feeling from or dont like. I work there, I pay the bills.

You sound like a child. If someone is renting from me and tey have a dog for their handicap, I shouldnt have to let them rent because their dog is special. Dogs ruin proporty. I shouldnt have to let animals in my place of work at all. animals are disgusting, stupid and unpredictable.




Just like people :cookiemonster:

Thats why laissez faire capitalism doesnt work



except that its the only way that does work and has proven to work
poor people want economics to be a moral thing. every reguation is a disincentive to make buisiness


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23552996 - 08/18/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah well this isnt the 1850s.

There are no entire continents of untapped resources.

There are no global wars that devastated every other major economic power.


This is where we're at. Now. The policies of long dead Adam Smith will not save us.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23552997 - 08/18/16 11:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

rich people want morality to be an economic thing. sadly it doesn't work that way.

also, laissez faire capitalism works fine for an individual philosophy. but on the level of industrialised populations, it never worked.

it's not good governance. i know you don't believe in anarchy.

PS: business is also weak. the weakest most servile form of human endeavor. i make people's torsos move while i sit on my ass. oooooo big whoop. next step up from the people who move money around.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23553015 - 08/18/16 11:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah well this isnt the 1850s.

There are no entire continents of untapped resources.

There are no global wars that devastated every other major economic power.


This is where we're at. Now. The policies of long dead Adam Smith will not save us.



what you are saying makes ni sence
economics works best bottom up

Ill makre this simple-

Prices dont stsnd on their on. They are based on labor intensity, resource availability, and demand. suppy and demand

when one thing fluctuates in price, it effects everything in relationship to it

subsidising one thing skews alk prices in relation

the USSR in the 4's couldnt regulate a million items with central economics. That would be impossible work.

communism has failed, socialis is failing right now in europe
capitalism works. It is the single biggest creator of prosperity that has ever existed

therr arent real socialist economists, because they have to avoid numbers. Noone in the economic world takes them seriously. It a sick joke. Poor people like the rhetoric because it gives their sad lives hope that they will be saved


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23553018 - 08/18/16 11:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

economics works? LOL this is your baseline assumption, and it's faulty.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23553026 - 08/18/16 11:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah it isnt worth my time to try to dilute this very simple argument any further.


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23553036 - 08/18/16 11:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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economics works? LOL this is your baseline assumption, and it's faulty.



economics is the study of distributing limited resources. One way has killed millions
China

USSR

Cambodia

Vietnam


the kiling fields
cantralized power is evil. If dragons existed Id be heading a campagne to exterminate them too. Central power is evil

the other has brought the greatest prosperity ever known
USA
Canada
Austrailia


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23553040 - 08/18/16 11:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you argue weak positions that are verifiably terrible like socialism, and reality destroys these ideals at first glance


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    #23553060 - 08/18/16 11:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

LOL the irony. Vietnam...LOL really? that's...astounding. gotta love those Vietnam tax breaks! boom! boom! boom! boon!


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: akira_akuma]
    #23553070 - 08/18/16 11:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL the irony. Vietnam...LOL really? that's...astounding. gotta love those Vietnam tax breaks! boom! boom! boom! boon!



The communists won and many died because of it.

The communists tried to put peole in forced farming oporations in china and almost as many people starved as died in the world wars.

socialists think because some suffer capitaism doesnt work. The world  is not a clean place and some will always suffer more


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Re: Racist Muslims at the Olympics [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23553077 - 08/18/16 11:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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you argue weak positions that are verifiably terrible like socialism, and reality destroys these ideals at first glance




What positions are those?

Pray tell.


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    #23553083 - 08/18/16 11:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL the irony. Vietnam...LOL really? that's...astounding. gotta love those Vietnam tax breaks! boom! boom! boom! boon!



The communists won and many died because of it.

The communists tried to put peole in forced farming oporations in china and almost as many people starved as died in the world wars.

socialists think because some suffer capitaism doesnt work. The world  is not a clean place and some will always suffer more




Could you contradict yourself any harder?

"Socialism doesnt work because certain facets of certain implementations caused some to suffer."

...

"You cant just disregard capitalism because some people suffer!"


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