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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: ModestMouse]
#23551550 - 08/17/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Black Diamond said: all i know is the minute i turn 75 i'm doing H if i haven't already.
I used to say that. Then I ended up turning to it at 31 when my life was falling apart. It's really not worth it. I'd far rather spend my twilight years growing copious amounts of shrooms and cactus and tripping on them...
...although, a little poppy patch for pain relief might not go amiss when all my joints start seizing up...
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: ModestMouse]
#23551646 - 08/17/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, I'd say if you're ever gonna do it wait until you're in a really good place in your life - you'll mitigate the chance you'll go back it if so IMO. It's when you hit it during the bad times and it makes everything feel fine and wonderful that it really easily becomes a problem.
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Jokeshopbeard said: Yeah, I'd say if you're ever gonna do it wait until you're in a really good place in your life - you'll mitigate the chance you'll go back it if so IMO. It's when you hit it during the bad times and it makes everything feel fine and wonderful that it really easily becomes a problem.
But depression just makes the high better!
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I hate heroin and I've never even done it. Must be a rough battle.
Last year one of my friends got high as a kite on it and tried to kill himself. Shot himself in the head and lived.
Last week one of my childhood friends got high as a kite and hung himself. He's dead.
Fuck heroin.
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Starstepper]
#23551940 - 08/18/16 12:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Those are weird reactions to the suposed euphoria
ya, its a stupid drug. The pain killing proporties that they said her are a sad excuse. Its like fucking someone with herpes. Maybe you get it, maybe you dont, and if ou do you are ging to have outbreaks for maybe the rest of your life
heroin outbreaks involve stealing it seems.
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specialpeopleclub said: The pain killing proporties that they said her are a sad excuse.
You do realise that heroin and morphine are near chemically identical?
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ya, but people are saying it as though it absolves some of the dangers. Noone is getting hurt and going to bang some H into their veins
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I actually sniffed H a few times when I was in pain. It's a miracle painkiller. I never banged it into a vein though, which is apparently where a lot of the rush comes from.
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specialpeopleclub said: Those are weird reactions to the suposed euphoria
ya, its a stupid drug. The pain killing proporties that they said her are a sad excuse. Its like fucking someone with herpes. Maybe you get it, maybe you dont, and if ou do you are ging to have outbreaks for maybe the rest of your life
heroin outbreaks involve stealing it seems.
They were long time users that couldn't stop and just gave up on life when things got tough I think. Wish I could of helped. My buddy left a kid behind so it's a sad deal.
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Jokeshopbeard said: I actually sniffed H a few times when I was in pain. It's a miracle painkiller. I never banged it into a vein though, which is apparently where a lot of the rush comes from.
in your experience, what percetange of heroin users actually get addicted?
I know tons of people who have done H from my high school. None are addicts. I am curious on estimates/stats. The stats I did find were around 10-15% but the study was done pretty poorly
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: topdog82]
#23551996 - 08/18/16 12:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't know, I don't hang around with any.
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Starstepper]
#23552010 - 08/18/16 01:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Thats sad I told my friends dad Im watching my frind. we all know what is happening. noone has the god damn, I dont know, anything, to intervene.
you cant save any of these people though. most dont want it. heroin nows what its doing, it wants them as part of its collective.
Its unbearable. Im at the point where I would snitch on smeone over this. I hate it
I stood outside his house today. Im thinking of intervening in a physical and unambigious manner. His family wont. Our perception of freedom seems to include the freedom to ruin the lives of everyone around you and then have them blamed afterward for not just cutting the tie. That is not something you can expect of people. It may be smart, but that is not how people work
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: topdog82]
#23552011 - 08/18/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Jokeshopbeard said: I actually sniffed H a few times when I was in pain. It's a miracle painkiller. I never banged it into a vein though, which is apparently where a lot of the rush comes from.
in your experience, what percetange of heroin users actually get addicted?
I know tons of people who have done H from my high school. None are addicts. I am curious on estimates/stats. The stats I did find were around 10-15% but the study was done pretty poorly
If you include people that got prescribed it/used it in hospital. .. i imagine it would be close to the current numbers of people addicted to prescription opiods.. Which is last i read 20 to 25% of users.
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specialpeopleclub said: Its unbearable. Im at the point where I would snitch on smeone over this. I hate it
I really wish you would go away. I cannot stand your obtuse and holier than thou attitude. Why can't you just live and let fucking live man?
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specialpeopleclub said: Its unbearable. Im at the point where I would snitch on smeone over this. I hate it
I really wish you would go away. I cannot stand your obtuse and holier than thou attitude. Why can't you just live and let fucking live man?
didnt I explain the whole, 'these people force their burdon on others' thing its all them them them your freedom ends where my stuff dissapearing begins
its the same with your death machines. maybe you can be safe, but the thousands of others cant, and if I killed one because of me or because they ride abrest(stagger your riding, the lanes arent that wide), it will harm me. it will be on me
its a really easy concept you choose not to understand
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So your response is to force your burden back on others? Makes sense.
Oh and BTW, taking heroin does NOT = stealing. You're tarring every heroin user with the same brush, just like you do blacks/bikers/muslims/etc/etc.
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specialpeopleclub said: its a really easy concept you choose not to understand
Incorrect. You simply display a massive lack of empathy. In fact I think (I hope) that one day you'll understand it's actually you that is failing to do what man inherently does; show empathy to his kin for the position they are in.
As it stands, you seem to believe your 'righteous' views are the only ones that could possibly be correct, hence anyone that sees things differently just doesn't 'understand' what your ego so dearly believes to be an objective truth.
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Jokeshopbeard said: I actually sniffed H a few times when I was in pain. It's a miracle painkiller. I never banged it into a vein though, which is apparently where a lot of the rush comes from.
in your experience, what percetange of heroin users actually get addicted?
I know tons of people who have done H from my high school. None are addicts. I am curious on estimates/stats. The stats I did find were around 10-15% but the study was done pretty poorly
Availability will determine a lot of addiction potentials, as well as factors such as pain, depression, compulsive behavior. Plenty enough people get addicted to it that it's the third most problematic drug out there. Anecdotes about your friends doesn't paint the whole picture and might be giving you a false sense of it being relatively benign.
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Jokeshopbeard said: So your response is to force your burden back on others? Makes sense.
Oh and BTW, taking heroin does NOT = stealing. You're tarring every heroin user with the same brush, just like you do blacks/bikers/muslims/etc/etc.
a few bad ieces of fruit ruin things I said those things, then my friends got addicted and my stuff and their family's turned p missing and they startrd lying constantly. I even held the tornoquet for my roommate
how am I pushing the burdon on other by wanting sensability?
Ive literally explained the 'not alll argument many times here. If you cant get it you are being willfully dense. I have to use the road, its a tool, not an amusement park ride. The heroin users who dont steal are a 'non problem', like the Muslims-in-name-only. That is an diology though. Black is not. Blacks can be saved, muslims can only be saved by eliminating the idiologyQuote:
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specialpeopleclub said: its a really easy concept you choose not to understand
Incorrect. You simply display a massive lack of empathy. In fact I think (I hope) that one day you'll understand it's actually you that is failing to do what man inherently does; show empathy to his kin for the position they are in.
As it stands, you seem to believe your 'righteous' views are the only ones that could possibly be correct, hence anyone that sees things differently just doesn't 'understand' what your ego so dearly believes to be an objective truth.
you are throwing the 'rightious' label at me and saying I lac empathy. I dont need empathy, its a toxic emotion that makes you feel for things you would be wiser not to. Compassion is better. Im not a child though. Ive gone through being a foolish liberal and found those ways have almost no place in the real world
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specialpeopleclub said: That is an diology though. Black is not. Blacks can be saved, muslims can only be saved by eliminating the idiology
You truly are special aren't you? Only someone who believed so would spout such utter shite like it was objective truth/reality.
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specialpeopleclub said: I dont need empathy, its a toxic emotion that makes you feel for things you would be wiser not to.
The only reason you're here is because of empathy, make no mistake about it. That empathy is 'toxic' is truly the most moronic thing I have heard anyone say all year. What do you think this world would look like if empathy were suddenly stripped from every human?
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