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ModestMouse
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Heroin is evil ...
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: falsereality] 1
#23541908 - 08/14/16 07:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: Heroin is evil
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falsereality said:
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ModestMouse said: Heroin is evil
Evil is defined by humanity, heroin is just a drug.
Thats a common and stupid way of thinking fed to people. at face value it seems to endow one with personal responsibilty, but in reality it stops one from seeing the metaphor in the actions they take
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heroin is the devil's cum
jk
 
dont pay attention to me i have migraine
congrats modest mouse, keep it up man
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: ModestMouse]
#23541928 - 08/14/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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specialpeopleclub said: Eve if there is one person that uses responsibly, and i have yet to meet a single one, it encroaches on the children and less worldly people and fucks their livs before they even know
in my experiance, evil is the erfect word. you become like a heroin bork thief lier pretty fast in my experiance.
It's been a while, I haven't touched any in recent times....but I've dabbled with H a handful of times over the years, as well as oxymorphone and other potent opioids....
....I never had a problem with becoming addicted, or even staying away from frequent/regular use. Even though a few friends around me were using, I never ended up upping my dosage dramatically and never continued on with regular use like they did. I could have, but I know what it was I was working with and know how slippery that slope can get, so I decided not to .
Every once in a while I get a hankering for a nice opiate high, I love opioids...but that's why I only dabble here & there.
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ModestMouse said: I hate this shit I'm 3 and a half weeks clean Only had a habit for 6 months, only used the needle for 3 but yet it still calls my name sometimes.
Sometimes the feeling hits me so strong that I would immediately go grab some if I had a connect. I am fortunate to have removed myself from my connections, and I'm making strides to live an honest life, but the call still echoes 
How do I escape this affliction?
Props to you for getting off that train . I've only experienced mild W/D a few times and can not imagine what full blown W/D would be like....not to mention the random cravings and calling towards it.
How much were you typically using, if you don't mind me asking?
Kinda cliche', but have you considered kratom for keeping random cravings in check?
I know some folks that quit H/opioids want to stay away from anything that tickles opioid receptors at all, and most heavy H users won't feel much of anything from kratom anyway....but I can see it helping with keeping H from calling your name randomly.
And more cliche' basic advice...but physical activity! Get a bike and get movin' around...It's a win win all around.
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specialpeopleclub said: Thats a common and stupid way of thinking fed to people.
Horses for courses. Personally I think your outlook is 'a common and stupid way of thinking fed to people'.
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Enjoywho]
#23542052 - 08/14/16 07:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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OP, don't be a baby. You knew exactly what you were getting into and no one forced you to do heroin. Don't blame heroin, blame yourself and take responsibility for your actions. People that act like you give drugs and users an undeserved bad reputation.
And just wait it out. Eventually you will get happier and think about opiates less. The urge will probably never go away completely though.
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Sheekle
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Lophosaurus] 3
#23542312 - 08/14/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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haha why is everyone in this thread defending heroin? OP is right, don't do heroin unless you're retarded and don't care if your entire life gets ruined. it baffles me that with however many decades worth of cases of people killing themselves and each other - slowly or otherwise - due to becoming enslaved by heroin, all of these hippie drug addicts on a mushroom forum are like "oh bro it's totally coincidence that when people do heroin their life gets ruined, the heroin really had nothing to do with it. never talk badly about my precious heroin, it's all in your mind, just do some heroin & chillax it's no biggie bro." or some weird shit like that
like yeah everybody, go shoot up some fetanyl laced heroin and OD, or destroy all of your friendships & relationships and lose all of your money and basic hygeine because you wanted to get high for a few hours. the people on the shroomery have the right idea
okay i'm gonna quit joking and be serious now, the risk to reward ratio is nothing, it's totally worth getting started on the dope. ask any former addict and they'll tell you how heroin saved their life and how it's the best drug to use.
not only is heroin a real nice drug to use, but the people who sell it are usually really happy and exciting people to be around too. not only are the dealers cool, but heroin addicts are the least boring people you'll ever met. they're always out doing really fun & cool things like laying on the couch drooling on themselves or robbing people/stores
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Sheekle] 1
#23542355 - 08/14/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: haha why is everyone in this thread defending heroin?
I don't see anyone defending heroin. All I see is people stating that it's not heroin that is the problem, but the people that take it. I doubt anyone who's tried it was forced to take their first, second, or third hit. It takes work to get addicted to it. It's not like you just slip onto the needle now is it?
Yes, being addicted to it can make you do some fucked up shit, but no one is forcing anyone to stay addicted. Many have been and many have come clean. Not everyone who takes it steals and does debauched shit and I'll challenge anyone that says 'the drugs made me do it'. No they fucking didn't.
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Apostle
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Sheekle] 4
#23542357 - 08/14/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Some people can't wrap their heads around what an inanimate object is.
"evil", 
Sheekle, as usual, comes off as condescending and hypocritical.
It's funny to me that someone can consume opiods(kratom) and then call others retards for doing the same(heroin).
If you have felt the sensation of being opiated then you should understand the appeal.
that being said, the Title of this thread is solid advice.
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Apostle]
#23542380 - 08/14/16 10:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Apostle said: that being said, the Title of this thread is solid advice.
QFT. Definitely better not to start.
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IslandShroomer
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: ModestMouse]
#23542488 - 08/14/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Damn bro, just stay strong. That shit has got a lot of people in my life, thankful I've never done it/ got into it. Just this past week I saw an old friend for the first time in years. Homeless now, on and off again fighting the H bug, bought him some food at McShittys.
He Died in a car accident Tuesday Night.
The shroomery is here for you bro! Sending love and good vibes your way!
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I just havent seen a single instance of someone shooting up and not having their life fucked. It also seems to make people into their worst selves.
maybe you, at your age with your experiance see it as not threatening. Im ot ouching it, it doesnt scare me. Im not touching it. the others it effected are what effecs me. The stealing and lieing.
you seem high functioning and got out of it. I dont see my recent addict friend doing that. you cant force them, despite that they and he in particular steals from everyone.
I like drugs, heroin just causes so many problems, for real
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eyyyyy I don't think you meant to reply to me or maybe I was not very clear....
H is fucked, the devil, evil, dont do it
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: ModestMouse]
#23542635 - 08/15/16 12:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I'm not going to say don't do heroin... I'm just going to warn you to be very careful. I was one of those naive enough to believe that I would never over-dose... and then it happened. I split half a pack (less then half a tenth) with a friend, intravenous of course and I over-dosed. I've cheated death twice in my life and this was the second time. I am so thankful I didn't get high by myself in some dark alleyway or corner alone because I wouldn't be here right now. In truth, we were getting high in a bathroom stall at the city bus station and it was probably a good thing because of the close proximity of the hospital. I DID have a naloxone kit but my friend wasn't aware of it... Him and his old lady performed CPR on me until the ambulance arrived. They narcaned (naloxone) me, and I immediately came back. The EMT's told me death was pounding on my door and I was as blue as the sky. I was so high I started to nod out after the x-rays (my ribs hurt so bad after the CPR), so they narcaned me again - and that pretty much sobered me right up. So not only did they save my life, but they killed my buzz. haha! A little extra: It was the dead of winter, and I was homeless and sleeping in the shelters. The EMT's cut all my clothes off except for my pants and around 2 am they were releasing me... I was all like, woah woah... I'm homeless and passed curfew on the shelters... You guys just saved my life only to send me out into the cold to die? You need to at the very least hook me up with some blankets. They gave me a smock to wear, some blankets and told me I could sleep in the lobby until morning... I was very grateful because they don't usually allow that. It was all very unexpected. So my warning is to be very careful because you never know just how good the heroin is going to be.
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Sheekle
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haha why wouldnt u say dont do heroin? umm ya, obviously dont do heroin. its literally common sense
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specialpeopleclub said: Heroin is pure, concentrated -evil-
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: ModestMouse]
#23543230 - 08/15/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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kratom saves lives
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Apostle
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Connoisseur]
#23543265 - 08/15/16 09:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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meh
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Sheekle
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Jokeshopbeard said: Horseshit. Heroin is no more evil than a gun or a car. It just takes your pain away and feels really fucking good in the process. Like alcohol for that matter. Or do you not count that as 'pure, concentrated -evil-'?
They all kill people in the wrong hands, and they all can be used responsibly.
hahHah if as many people did heroin as the amount of people who drove cars the entire world would literally be like 5x as fucked up as it already is don't kid yourself jokeshop i know you wanna be some rebelious hippie anarchist but its about time you got real
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Re: PSA don't fucking do heroin [Re: Sheekle] 1
#23543274 - 08/15/16 09:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sheekle said: literally
You use that word a lot but i don't think you know what it means.
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