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InvisibleKush_Zombie
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Are my shrooms too big?
    #23539953 - 08/14/16 07:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Serious question.

I picked this monster yesterday and he weighed out to be 76.8g wet. It weighed 8.4g when he became cracker dry after sitting in the dehydrator for longer than overnight.

I got up this morning and picked the rest of my patch and WOW. These are way bigger than I'm use to growing. If I were to eat this 8.4g shroom would it still be the equivelant of eating roughly 8g of regular sized shrooms? Or if I decide to share these am I going to start getting complaints about people not feeling them because they'd need to take more?

I'm using the logic of pins being more potent than fruits, which I was lead to believe might make my bigger fruits appear to be an 8g dose but is actually less. They were grown from clones.


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Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23540005 - 08/14/16 07:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The only way to know for sure, is to try it yourself :sunny:


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: mindbentempire]
    #23540014 - 08/14/16 07:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:llamastare:

It must be done then.


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Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
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How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23540068 - 08/14/16 08:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Anecdotal evidence would suggest that smaller mushrooms are stronger, but that the best way to maximize your psilocybin yield is with large mushrooms.  An 8.4g mushroom won't be as strong as 8.4g of small mushrooms, but it's still 8.4g of mushrooms.  That's a lot.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23540076 - 08/14/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think one of the reasons people think smaller mushrooms are more potent came from the fact that  multispore potentcy varies from mushroom to mushroom. Say you have one large mushroom that is two doses, a couple ppl split it and it just so happens to not be that potent, they eat several small ones from the same grow the potency is more averaged out. Just a thought.

Nice mushroom btw:thumbup:


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Psilicon] * 1
    #23540086 - 08/14/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I also think that what people don't understand is that yield matters. If you harvest a tub full of tiny mushroom that comes out to 3 oz dry, you won't likely have as much psilocybin as you would see from a tub of bigger mushrooms that came out to 9 oz dry.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Pastywhyte] * 1
    #23540091 - 08/14/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also big shrooms can still be quite potent. This one took 5 people to town.



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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23540131 - 08/14/16 08:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's actually from an outside grow. There's 4 racks PACKED in the dehydrator right now and I only pulled about half of them.

They came out MUCH bigger than my indoor grows.



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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23551492 - 08/17/16 10:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I cut 1.8g off of a 9g mushroom and it made me feel exactly like I wanted it to, and maybe a little more. I'm happy :awesome:


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Kush_Zombie] * 1
    #23551947 - 08/18/16 12:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hell yeah man glad to hear those fruit are treating you well!

:letyourspiritsoar:


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: leech911]
    #23551984 - 08/18/16 12:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you guys grow some mad size giant shrooms :smile: can i achive this with pf tek ?


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: kamykazi3]
    #23552218 - 08/18/16 04:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Outside grows tend to give bigger mushrooms. It's all about that FAE. I tried to grow pioppino mushrooms in a monotub inside and it was disastrous, they looked bad enough for people to say they had vert. Threw it in a garbage bag and put the garbage bag outside to discard later. Forgot all about it until I saw these beautiful big shrooms poking out of the bag.

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kamykazi3 said:
you guys grow some mad size giant shrooms :smile: can i achive this with pf tek ?




It's possible but bulk holds much more water so it's easier to do in monos. Or just do what OP did, grow them outside. Using spent cakes to spawn pots filled with compost and/or straw would work.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23552247 - 08/18/16 04:31 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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kamykazi3 said:
you guys grow some mad size giant shrooms :smile: can i achive this with pf tek ?




Keep in mind that you should focus your work on agar if you want mad size shrooms. Growing from MS will just yield randoms. Focusing on agar work can help you preserve the most desired traits you want to see in your shrooms. It doesn't matter if it's pf-tek, more in the genes you are growing

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Using spent cakes to spawn pots filled with compost and/or straw would work.




Still waiting on my plan pots to throw something out there but I have a feeling I won't see anything till winter. Had a small flush going on from a spent mono that I spawned outside months ago but the sun got to it before I did :mad2: Hopefully the next wave of rain will give me something


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Supalemonhaze]
    #23552249 - 08/18/16 04:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Outside grows rule is your neighbors aren't around.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: tump]
    #23552293 - 08/18/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here's my grow log of that outdoor grow for anyone who is interested:

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23482144


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: Are my shrooms too big? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23552348 - 08/18/16 06:22 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That looks like a nice one...let us know how it is :smile:


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