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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541498 - 08/14/16 05:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You have to delegate out and bring in a third party to have kids, and your kid is had in an unnatural and potentially traumitizing way(test tube baby).

I see it as not serious, because, even if there is affection, it isnt leading anywhere but sex. The whole phenomenon of people not wanting kids is short sighted and my genoration may have many truely sad death beds

nope morning after pill is abortion. The dna has become novel, a new person is growing, or germinated. I dont want to bring that argument here though




I don't think it's morally just to have kids that way when there's so many homeless kids and were so overpopulated. Though I think in a free society people should have rights.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: ShadeOfDeepPurple] * 1
    #23541503 - 08/14/16 05:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Um... how is IVF traumatic? This is just getting ridiculous. Talk about magical thinking.



when ou get older and realize you were made in such an unloving creepy way. Not everyone will feel it, but some would feel animocity. I would
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You have to delegate out and bring in a third party to have kids, and your kid is had in an unnatural and potentially traumitizing way(test tube baby).

I see it as not serious, because, even if there is affection, it isnt leading anywhere but sex. The whole phenomenon of people not wanting kids is short sighted and my genoration may have many truely sad death beds

nope morning after pill is abortion. The dna has become novel, a new person is growing, or germinated. I dont want to bring that argument here though




I don't think it's morally just to have kids that way when there's so many homeless kids and were so overpopulated. Though I think in a free society people should have rights.



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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541520 - 08/14/16 05:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You're projecting your judgment onto others. It's just like how people argue that a child of gay parents would be traumatized by their parents being in such an "unnatural" relationship. In reality, this is not borne out by any evidence. However, what might prove traumatic to a child of a loving gay couple is the judgment of people like you, who invalidate and sneer at their family bonds.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23541549 - 08/14/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The only evinance Ive ever even had put forth were some starts by the young turks saying hw perfect gay families are.
having gay parents is normalied, and that helps with the scial pressure and embarassment some. It is still suboptimal. Women and men are differand and both contribute certain character traits to raising a child. There is a reason single moms raise weak, stupid boys. Look at the black community if you wanna see what terror single moms inflict though


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541554 - 08/14/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The only evinance Ive ever even had put forth were some starts by the young turks saying hw perfect gay families are.
having gay parents is normalied, and that helps with the scial pressure and embarassment some. It is still suboptimal. Women and men are differand and both contribute certain character traits to raising a child. There is a reason single moms raise weak, stupid boys. Look at the black community if you wanna see what terror single moms inflict though




Everything you say is objectively terrible.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23541556 - 08/14/16 05:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You of all people have the least to say about family bonds


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541567 - 08/14/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Um... how is IVF traumatic? This is just getting ridiculous. Talk about magical thinking.



when ou get older and realize you were made in such an unloving creepy way. Not everyone will feel it, but some would feel animocity. I would



:loldongs: I seriously doubt anyone would ever be "unlovingly creeped" if they found out their mother had them fertilized via IVF. But if you're creeped out by that, that's cool, just don't be surprised if other people aren't. :chesire:


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23541582 - 08/14/16 05:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

some wont be, some will. Its another way to make you differant with down sides and no up ones


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541625 - 08/14/16 05:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I see it as not serious, because, even if there is affection, it isnt leading anywhere but sex. The whole phenomenon of people not wanting kids is short sighted and my genoration may have many truely sad death beds




Did you ever pause to think that the whole psychological phenomenon of people not wanting kids is because of serious overpopulation, and this is the way the human species tries to conserve itself? Whether people realize they are doing it intentionally or not.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541768 - 08/14/16 06:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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some wont be, some will. Its another way to make you differant with down sides and no up ones



"No up ones"? What is your motive here? To insult me and put me down? To make me accept your POV? My motive of writing the comment from earlier was to show you how different people can have totally opposite beliefs than you. To get you to open your eyes... to accept others for who they are, even if their ideologies contradict your ideologies.

It wasn't to criticize you.

I do admit I added a bit of sarcasm, but hey sometimes a little sarcasm here and there is good now and again, it's so I can relate to and joke around with other people who share the same ideologies and beliefs as me.
:hahyeahwoo:


But you metaphorically asserting all my views as illogical, just proves my point of why you are unwilling to accept other people for what they believe.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: stzacrack]
    #23541777 - 08/14/16 06:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You of all people have the least to say about family bonds




I have loving parents who are still together and a brother who means the world to me. Someday I'll have a a kid or kids of my own; I can only hope I'll ever be able to do as good a job as my parents did.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: Crystal G]
    #23541789 - 08/14/16 06:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Crystal G, your thread offerings have taken on an ominous tone lately.  It feels like you're spending a lot of time thinking about and researching some bizarre stuff.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
    #23541792 - 08/14/16 06:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I see it as not serious, because, even if there is affection, it isnt leading anywhere but sex. The whole phenomenon of people not wanting kids is short sighted and my genoration may have many truely sad death beds




Did you ever pause to think that the whole psychological phenomenon of people not wanting kids is because of serious overpopulation, and this is the way the human species tries to conserve itself? Whether people realize they are doing it intentionally or not.



No, the idea of overpopulation is a liberal myth

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some wont be, some will. Its another way to make you differant with down sides and no up ones



"No up ones"? What is your motive here? To insult me and put me down? To make me accept your POV? My motive of writing the comment from earlier was to show you how different people can have totally opposite beliefs than you. To get you to open your eyes... to accept others for who they are, even if their ideologies contradict your ideologies.

It wasn't to criticize you.

I do admit I added a bit of sarcasm, but hey sometimes a little sarcasm here and there is good now and again, it's so I can relate to and joke around with other people who share the same ideologies and beliefs as me.
:hahyeahwoo:


But you metaphorically asserting all my views as illogical, just proves my point of why you are unwilling to accept other people for what they believe.



some will be fine with it, some wont. some may be picked on or have existential problems because of their weird family and origin.
Just because differant opinions exist doesnt mean I have to respect them.
I coulod list differant opinions I dont respect. its just like people, in that existing doesnt entitle you to respect


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23541929 - 08/14/16 07:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You have to delegate out and bring in a third party to have kids, and your kid is had in an unnatural and potentially traumitizing way(test tube baby).

I see it as not serious, because, even if there is affection, it isnt leading anywhere but sex. The whole phenomenon of people not wanting kids is short sighted and my genoration may have many truely sad death beds

nope morning after pill is abortion. The dna has become novel, a new person is growing, or germinated. I dont want to bring that argument here though



Adoption

You sound like the next Omar Mateen


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: koods]
    #23541935 - 08/14/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No, the idea of overpopulation is a liberal myth





You have some seriously bizarre ideas. How the fuck is over population a liberal myth?


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: stzacrack]
    #23541939 - 08/14/16 07:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You of all people have the least to say about family bonds




Judgmental much?


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: koods] * 1
    #23541943 - 08/14/16 07:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Population trends show it leveling out, and in the west, we are barely keeping stable.

I dont know who he is

he sexual revolution was a disaster and sreated a culture of unashamed sluts who think abortions are a human right


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #23542037 - 08/14/16 07:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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some wont be, some will. Its another way to make you differant with down sides and no up ones



"No up ones"? What is your motive here? To insult me and put me down? To make me accept your POV? My motive of writing the comment from earlier was to show you how different people can have totally opposite beliefs than you. To get you to open your eyes... to accept others for who they are, even if their ideologies contradict your ideologies.

It wasn't to criticize you.

I do admit I added a bit of sarcasm, but hey sometimes a little sarcasm here and there is good now and again, it's so I can relate to and joke around with other people who share the same ideologies and beliefs as me.
:hahyeahwoo:


But you metaphorically asserting all my views as illogical, just proves my point of why you are unwilling to accept other people for what they believe.



some will be fine with it, some wont. some may be picked on or have existential problems because of their weird family and origin.
Just because differant opinions exist doesnt mean I have to respect them.
I coulod list differant opinions I dont respect. its just like people, in that existing doesnt entitle you to respect




Scientists and Philosophers have several things in common, do you know what they are?

They remove biases from the situation at hand(or at least try too).

They have methods for solving problems.

They never conclude anything as fact(philosophers call it knowledge) until they have substantial evidence proving their claims.

MOST Importantly of all, they respect others for their beliefs. Until the other person's motives are determined. After that they can choose to respect that person or not.

What I'm seeing here is somebody not respecting the beliefs of others, even when the other person's motives are for good and not their own personal gain. Sure i was sarcastic earlier and you could list that as a personal gain because i told the joke to get laughs out of others with the same beliefs and ideologies as me, but I was just joking and jokes are just for fun. But like i said a dozen times, my motives are to teach you something... to respect others until you determine tge other person's motives.

I'm done arguing with you. Laterz...


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: specialpeopleclub] * 1
    #23542058 - 08/14/16 08:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No, the idea of overpopulation is a liberal myth




Population in 1950s: 2 billion

Population today: 7 billion

:facepalm:


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Population trends show it leveling out, and in the west, we are barely keeping stable.





Yeah no shit, thanks to people out there who are showing common sense and either not having children, or only having 1 or 2.

Just remember there are still many countries out there that don't practice birth control, and have as many as 5 to 20 children per household. Imagine if each of those 10 children had another 10 children and so forth, within only 3 generations that's 10,000 extra people. From only ONE SINGLE FAMILY.


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Re: Mother and Son Claim to Be in Love and Want to Be Together [Re: Crystal G]
    #23542223 - 08/14/16 09:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Man is hardwired to spread his seed as much as possible. Bob Marley had the right idea.

The declining birth rates have more to do with the emasculation of the new generation of men more than a conscious decision to have less children for the sake of the planet.
It's even worse in Japan.
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