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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
    #23568523 - 08/23/16 09:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

those that would use terms such as "yoga shaman" and "spiritual warrior" to self identify must be prepared for the energy they will attract.

both of you are lying to your self.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23568607 - 08/23/16 09:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Have you considered embracing this dark negative force instead of fighting against it?

There's a practice called, "Feeding Your Demons" that reveals what the demons want and need.

The method was originally created by Machig Labdrön (born in 1055 in Tibet)




This sounds interesting. But I thought that by "feeding the demons" and giving them what they want or need would only keep me in darkness forever, in the presence of demons? I can't satiate the demons' cravings, I have a bad feeling that the demons want me to continue poisoning myself with alcohol and psychoactive substances. Basically I feel enslaved in darkness/hell with demons for eternity and don't know how to get free from it at all. I can't submit to darkness and evil, I DONT' WANT TO SUBMIT TO DARKNESS AND DEMONS/EVIL AND BE ENSLAVED BY THEM UNTIL THE END OF TIME!!!!!

it seems wrong to me on many levels to want to appease the demons so they leave me alone temporarily. It really sucks bad to be enslaved by demons when I used to be a spiritual saint.
these demons want me to basically keep doing things that are self-injurious.

this really sucks


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23568716 - 08/23/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nature prayer work excercise leave your house


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23569281 - 08/23/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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This sounds interesting. But I thought that by "feeding the demons" and giving them what they want or need would only keep me in darkness forever, in the presence of demons?




According to this concept, as outlined by Tsultrim Allione (I've watched her perform this practice in person),
if we fight our demons, they only grow stronger. But if we feed and nurture them, we can free ourselves.

My take on this perspective is that demons are created by unmet needs.

(I'm not usually into this type of thing, but find it interesting)


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23569320 - 08/23/16 02:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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yogashaman21 said:

This sounds interesting. But I thought that by "feeding the demons" and giving them what they want or need would only keep me in darkness forever, in the presence of demons?




According to this concept, as outlined by Tsultrim Allione (I've watched her perform this practice in person),
if we fight our demons, they only grow stronger. But if we feed and nurture them, we can free ourselves.

My take on this perspective is that demons are created by unmet needs.

(I'm not usually into this type of thing, but find it interesting)




This sounds very interesting. But what if I am cursed by spiritual beings? I don't believe that I myself have become demonic, at least I hope not, no, I think My soul/mind/body is filled with demons. And they won't come out. And I don't want it to be excruciatingly painful when they do come out, if they ever do come out that is.

I know a major reason I am enslaved by horrible demons and worse is because of using/consuming evil spirits in the form of intoxicating drugs. Another reason is because people were pricks to me all throughout my childhood and growing up and also into adulthood. Not just society but those closest around me as well.

I'm basically in hell with lots of demons and have been abandoned forever by whatever god(s) I used to believe in. What could be worse than that, other than actually being cursed by gods or spirits (which I believe I am also suffering from)?

I appreciate your input, thanks, but I don't think there is any way of recovering from this. Bad religious programming + poor lifestyle/bad choices = damnation (At least this is how it feels)

my soul/consciousness was supreme and infinite so how can any stupid god or goddess ruin my fucking life and existence like this? I refuse to lose to anybody, whether its a person or a spirit or a demon or an entity or a demigod, etc. I can't lose like this


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21] * 1
    #23571017 - 08/23/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I don't think there is any way of recovering from this.




That's your demon talking.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23571107 - 08/23/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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hi,

I've had this problem for quite some time now, many years actually; there are demons harassing me mentally and telepathically which are pretending to be divine spirits when they're not.

This doesn't go away. It's terrible to have to live with this.



In the Bible it says that God has cast away those from him in order to let them see how it will be like for them to not being in his presence. Once they has acknowledge whom He truly is, then He will bring them back. But the only way to recognize Him, is to be put into the belly for three days and nights.



Matthew 7:7  “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you.

Hosea 6:6 For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and acknowledgment of God rather than burnt offerings.

John 1:11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. (They did not recognizes Him)

John 14:9 Jesus answered: “Don’t you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

Matthew 12:40 For as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of a huge fish, so the Son of Man will be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

Isaiah 45:5 I am the Lord, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,

1 Chronicles 28:9 “And you, my son Solomon, acknowledge the God of your father, and serve him with wholehearted devotion and with a willing mind, for the Lord searches every heart and understands every desire and every thought. If you seek him, he will be found by you; but if you forsake him, he will reject you forever.

Hosea 13:4 “But I have been the Lord your God ever since you came out of Egypt. You shall acknowledge no God but me, no Savior except me.

Luke 13:35 Look, your house is left to you desolate. I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”

Jonah 2:7 “When my life was ebbing away, I remembered you, Lord, and my prayer rose to you, to your holy temple. 8 “Those who cling to worthless idols turn away from God’s love for them. 9 But I, with shouts of grateful praise, will sacrifice to you.
What I have vowed I will make good. I will say, ‘Salvation comes from the Lord.’”
10 And the Lord commanded the fish, and it vomited Jonah onto dry land.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: Douglas Howard]
    #23572001 - 08/24/16 06:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I don't understand why you are quoting random bible passages, and don't understand the meaning of "being put into the belly for three days and nights."

but I appreciate your response, thanks for your concern.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23572049 - 08/24/16 07:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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yogashaman21 said:
I don't understand why you are quoting random bible passages, and don't understand the meaning of "being put into the belly for three days and nights."

but I appreciate your response, thanks for your concern.




Put into the belly or being in the center of the earth, represent Hell. The only way to purify the wicked is by letting them live with the fruits of the wicked. God hands them over to him, to let them see if this is what they truly wants. He put them in there for a third of their life, and that is what the three days represented. And if they doesn't become clean, then He will leaves them in there for another three more days, a third of their life. But then it also says , "Do not let your flight be in the winter". Winter represent the last three days, the ending third part of your life. And if you started your flight in mid winter, then how will they ever come out. That person has to stay in there for three days. And God doesn't goes back on His word. Then that means that the devil get to keep them for himself. That is the meaning of the oil in the lamps, that represent the ones that did not have enough time to redeem themselves. And so anyone that is being tormented by evil, is that they are being purified by the fire.

Matthew 18:34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

Matthew 24:20 Pray that your flight will not take place in winter or on the Sabbath. ( The Sabbath represent the last days of your life).


Matthew 25:12 “But he replied, ‘Truly I tell you, I don’t know you.’

13 “Therefore keep watch, because you do not know the day or the hour.

Luke 23:42 Then he said, “Jesus, remember me when you come into your kingdom.”


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23572084 - 08/24/16 07:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You are suffering from (most likely several) chemical imbalance(s)





This is the religion of our time.

That our suffering is due to "chemical imbalances"




The chemical imbalances are the symptoms of the underlying problem/disease. Although a non drug solution/treatment would obviously be preferable sometimes hiding the symptoms with drugs is the best route to take. I will agree tho that in todays medical industry drugs are overused.

OP should probably try finding a good therapist. Theyre definitely still out there


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: howsyournaggerdoin]
    #23578122 - 08/25/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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howsyournaggerdoin said:

The chemical imbalances are the symptoms of the underlying problem/disease.





If there was scientific evidence that chemical imbalances cause suffering, there'd be a diagnostic test.

There are no tests for neuro-chemical imbalances. If there was such a thing, it would be used.

I've been "diagnosed" 3 times in my life with "chemical imbalances", each after a 10-20 minute conversation with a "specialist"


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
    #23578334 - 08/26/16 01:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
If there was scientific evidence that chemical imbalances cause suffering, there'd be a diagnostic test.





Why would there necessarily be a test ? If these imbalances occur only in specific brain regions its hard to test for.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
There are no tests for neuro-chemical imbalances. If there was such a thing, it would be used.





Yes if there was a test it would be used but that doesnt mean imbalances dont exist.

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RJ Tubs 202 said:
I've been "diagnosed" 3 times in my life with "chemical imbalances", each after a 10-20 minute conversation with a "specialist"




Thats why i said a good therapist. One that will actually put some effort in trying to solve your problem without drugs and only falls back to using them as a last ressort


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21]
    #23578360 - 08/26/16 01:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You don't have to live with anything.  You are more powerful innately then whatever haunts you.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: timelapses]
    #23580909 - 08/26/16 05:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Toughen up!

If you believe in angels and demons, you believe in god.
With the power of god you have devine power over all evil.
Tell them to fuck off, they have to listen.

And stop presenting yourself as a shaman if you have no controll over these entities.
Could be a reason why things feel the need to attack you in the first place...?

If that doesnt work, your probably crazy.
See a psych and get a job.

Sorry if i come off as a dick with every correspondence...


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: Cactiphile]
    #23583175 - 08/27/16 11:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yes thanks for all the response to everyone. I think things are finally starting to get better.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: yogashaman21] * 1
    #23587397 - 08/28/16 04:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Your struggle is against thoughts, mainly. So if you can learn how to stop the thoughts you can stop the assaults. As I've said, small amounts of amanita can greatly reduce all thoughts (its anti-psychotic in my book) and help with those. I would recommend you stop taking all drugs which "open the head" because I did that on LSA and methamphetamine which led to my horrific struggle with dark powers. People say you want to open the "3rd eye" and the head with hallucinogens but this can be a very dangerous thing and lead you open to attacks. Its all in what you're thinking about, what soul ties you have, or what habits of thought you get into. I think what happened is you let the door open to your heart and that's where they came in (and took no prisoners). Its about closing the doors and locking them so they don't get in, because when you let them in then they start to cause total chaos and overpower you. The Jesus prayer is a very helpful method of dealing with thoughts as well, said on a prayer rope with 50 or more knots. Its a form of meditation and kind of like a mantra... Anyways, fair sailing.

There's three stages to spiritual or thought warfare. Or five. Here's a link to that about thoughts or logismoi http://orthodoxcounselor.com/Articles/logismoi.htm


Its a false knowledge thing, we have too much of this bad knowledge. Eating the tree of knowledge of good and evil is what kills us. Bad knowledge anyways. Reason I mentioned amanitas is because they practically destroy our ideas of former knowledge to where we don't think as much or sometimes even at all and can thus control the thoughts. I ordered some amanita from a very good vendor and am happy with them. Maybe you should give it a try.

By the way, its all this false or bad knowledge we have that makes us prey because its our pride. When we believe we are so knowledgeable we are in a state of pride and then we're pig feed for them. As long as you can humble yourself and realize you don't know what you think you do, then you can escape the conflicts. 


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #23587426 - 08/28/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Your struggle is against thoughts, mainly. So if you can learn how to stop the thoughts you can stop the assaults. As I've said, small amounts of amanita can greatly reduce all thoughts (its anti-psychotic in my book) and help with those. I would recommend you stop taking all drugs which "open the head" because I did that on LSA and methamphetamine which led to my horrific struggle with dark powers. People say you want to open the "3rd eye" and the head with hallucinogens but this can be a very dangerous thing and lead you open to attacks. Its all in what you're thinking about, what soul ties you have, or what habits of thought you get into. I think what happened is you let the door open to your heart and that's where they came in (and took no prisoners). Its about closing the doors and locking them so they don't get in, because when you let them in then they start to cause total chaos and overpower you. The Jesus prayer is a very helpful method of dealing with thoughts as well, said on a prayer rope with 50 or more knots. Its a form of meditation and kind of like a mantra... Anyways, fair sailing.

There's three stages to spiritual or thought warfare. Or five. Here's a link to that about thoughts or logismoi http://orthodoxcounselor.com/Articles/logismoi.htm






The fuck are you even talking about?

To OP:
I personally don't believe in demons but I believe in the possibility of spirits although since it cant be proven I cant be sure. Definitely see a counselor friend!


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: trvptamine]
    #23587438 - 08/28/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Read  my post in the first or second page budday, crazy shit

I'm referring to people like David Icke who believe in insane batshit theories because he let in all this "knowledge" from the outside, only to be tricked into becoming a luntic by the entities themselves. Its just an example of how dangerous it can be


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    #23587450 - 08/28/16 04:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Your struggle is against thoughts, mainly. So if you can learn how to stop the thoughts you can stop the assaults. As I've said, small amounts of amanita can greatly reduce all thoughts (its anti-psychotic in my book) and help with those. I would recommend you stop taking all drugs which "open the head" because I did that on LSA and methamphetamine which led to my horrific struggle with dark powers. People say you want to open the "3rd eye" and the head with hallucinogens but this can be a very dangerous thing and lead you open to attacks. Its all in what you're thinking about, what soul ties you have, or what habits of thought you get into. I think what happened is you let the door open to your heart and that's where they came in (and took no prisoners). Its about closing the doors and locking them so they don't get in, because when you let them in then they start to cause total chaos and overpower you. The Jesus prayer is a very helpful method of dealing with thoughts as well, said on a prayer rope with 50 or more knots. Its a form of meditation and kind of like a mantra... Anyways, fair sailing.

There's three stages to spiritual or thought warfare. Or five. Here's a link to that about thoughts or logismoi http://orthodoxcounselor.com/Articles/logismoi.htm






The fuck are you even talking about?

To OP:
I personally don't believe in demons but I believe in the possibility of spirits although since it cant be proven I cant be sure. Definitely see a counselor friend!





A lot of the "demons" are self manufactured. Its like we created it and it keeps revolving around and around. Because we accepted the evil and let it gain a foothold. It won't stop without a change of heart and mind and some struggle.


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Re: demons harassing me pretending to be angels [Re: SpiritualWarrior]
    #23587460 - 08/28/16 04:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah sorry to be a dick man. I just have to disagree with the "opening of the mind" letting evil in. I think having an open mind has only led to positive experiences for myself and others I know. My life was much less fulfilled and much more full of evil when I hadn't yet learned to open myself up to new experiences.


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