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Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? * 5
    #23537699 - 08/13/16 11:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

There's something out there called "industry standard." Which is a ceiling for game quality, and if any popular game were to break that ceiling, the rest of the industry would have to follow suit and therefore spend more money in development to see a return on their investment.

Therefore, every popular game is kept at or below industry standard, which is jussst barely quality enough to fool you into thinking its a fun/good game. Not saying these games aren't fun, hell, for people who've never played something above industry standard that's as good as it gets. But there's better stuff out there..

My faith in any new videogames was finally killed for good after playing through the new metal gear solid game, many months ago now. After hearing that no mans sky was a big disappointment (who saw THAT coming) it reminds me that a large percentage of my age group will still shell out 60 dollars for such things.

I now find what people write about unreleased games hilarious. The developer says they "mastered dog AI" or "fixed" this aspect of gameplay, and the consumers just eat it up without a second though. Have they not payed attention to the consistently piddly changes that accompany these grand claims?

Like all they need to sell you a 60 dollar hunk of shit is good graphics, yielding a prettyful trailer, and then over exaggerated claims. And from what I see, people who are aware of this are a minority.

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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23537719 - 08/13/16 11:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What did you dislike about the new MG? I thought it was repetitive but I enjoyed the gameplay and new engine


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #23537723 - 08/13/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah there's a lot of gaming companies out there just pushing for the bottom line (top $$$) who don't really care about their content.
But having some insight in the industry, a whole lot more goes into a game then you might think. Making a game is a LOT of work. 

I think the claims of "No Mans Sky" totally sucks balls are retarded considering it just came out on PC yesterday. I'm enjoying it.
People have unrealistic expectations. They want it to be Minecraft in Space... it's not. Plus it JUST fucking came out, there's still lots of development to be done.
I played DayZ for like 2 1/2 years. it's still in Alpha.

Don't get me wrong, I have plenty to bitch about especially when it comes to companies like EA - aka Satan incarnate.

But there's tons of awesome game companies out there putting out excellent content
And the choices for gamers have NEVER BEEN BETTER in the history of games.
The game industry itself is a volatile market. You can be a senior level programmer and unless you are in one of the monster companies like Blizzard or Riot or Supercell or whatever, your job could fizzle in an instant.

TL;DR: I'm not really sure what your talking about. Yeah there's a bunch of crap games - don't play them. Play the good ones. You have tons of options.
The "industry standard" is just "we have to make money with this game or we can no longer exist as a company" unless you are one of said monster companies that can afford to make a complete flop of a game and still keep going.
Because in the end gaming companies are a business and business have to make money to exist.
It's just the way they go about it that is the question and the value they provide to the gamer as an experience.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #23537759 - 08/13/16 11:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Frustration with large industry titles drives a number of people to indie gaming.
Would like to get more into indie game development; maybe publish something on Steam, then have that in a portfolio to work at a larger company.
Would I turn around and get lazy at that point, or be told by my boss to work less hard, who knows?

Why work hard when you can take breaks and shortcuts?


On the other hand, No Man's Sky was also apparently done by a small studio of 10 or 11 people.  Not sure if it is 'fair' to expect it to have the content and quality of a large industry title.
Or is the idea meant to be that larger companies put pressure on them to dumb their game down to fail to meet the hype?

Personally have not tried No Man's Sky, and not sure I will.  If I am going to be let down by a major exploration-based space game it's going to be Star Citizen and it's hype train instead.  :snub:

Think hype plays a big role as well -- personally went into Undertale blind, and found it excellent. 
IGN, on the other hand, decided it beat out Witcher 3, Metal Gear Solid and Fallout 4 for best PC release of 2015.
With the community that surrounds it though, think it would be hard to have realistic expectations for it without going in oblivious.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Tantrika]
    #23537778 - 08/13/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The same reviewer that bashed No Mans Sky so hard was talking all kinds of crap about Rust and Ark and a bunch of other games, so I don't trust his opinion.
Rust in early access was the fucking ShizzleBAMShnipSnap, game was so fucking good. They ruined it, of course, but you can still play legacy servers I think.
Ark is pretty awesome. His opinion is void.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Shroomism] * 2
    #23537827 - 08/13/16 12:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sadly the videogame industry is only one of many effected by this. Pop "music" and mainstream TV/ movies are both shining examples :glittershitz:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23537854 - 08/13/16 12:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Sadly the videogame industry is only one of many effected by this. Pop "music" and mainstream TV/ movies are both shining examples :glittershitz:



I've got a running list of things that have been horribly perverted by the chase for money above all else. Modern science makes a good addition to the list, just realized yesterday.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #23537861 - 08/13/16 12:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I only really play indie and oldschool games these days so I'm gonna have to go like

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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23537867 - 08/13/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:underage:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23537871 - 08/13/16 12:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah there's a lot of gaming companies out there just pushing for the bottom line (top $$$) who don't really care about their content.
But having some insight in the industry, a whole lot more goes into a game then you might think. Making a game is a LOT of work. 

I think the claims of "No Mans Sky" totally sucks balls are retarded considering it just came out on PC yesterday. I'm enjoying it.
People have unrealistic expectations. They want it to be Minecraft in Space... it's not. Plus it JUST fucking came out, there's still lots of development to be done.
I played DayZ for like 2 1/2 years. it's still in Alpha.

Don't get me wrong, I have plenty to bitch about especially when it comes to companies like EA - aka Satan incarnate.

But there's tons of awesome game companies out there putting out excellent content
And the choices for gamers have NEVER BEEN BETTER in the history of games.
The game industry itself is a volatile market. You can be a senior level programmer and unless you are in one of the monster companies like Blizzard or Riot or Supercell or whatever, your job could fizzle in an instant.

TL;DR: I'm not really sure what your talking about. Yeah there's a bunch of crap games - don't play them. Play the good ones. You have tons of options.
The "industry standard" is just "we have to make money with this game or we can no longer exist as a company" unless you are one of said monster companies that can afford to make a complete flop of a game and still keep going.
Because in the end gaming companies are a business and business have to make money to exist.
It's just the way they go about it that is the question and the value they provide to the gamer as an experience.



A good collection of points. sad stuff.

I guess I just wish I could show every gamer out there that the best games are often free, and get them to stop feeding this beast.

I've gotta wonder if the main reason development takes so long is too much focus is on visuals and all the things that come with them. Couple of my favorite games on this earth are text based, free, and made by a handful of people.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: California]
    #23537873 - 08/13/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23537874 - 08/13/16 12:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah modern science is another good example sadly... What made you realize it yesterday?

I realized it pretty much as soon as I was old enough to understand what happened to Tesla :sad:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23537881 - 08/13/16 12:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I guess I just wish I could show every gamer out there that the best games are often free, and get them to stop feeding this beast.




I don't know about that assertion. The best games often are not free ime. Unless we are talking about piracy and retro-gaming, then by and large the best games try to make some money off the end product. No doubt.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420] * 1
    #23537882 - 08/13/16 12:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

haha, I mean I was aware of it beforehand, the realization was simply that it belonged on the mental list I have going, at the top of it even.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23537885 - 08/13/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

rbalzer said:
I guess I just wish I could show every gamer out there that the best games are often free, and get them to stop feeding this beast.




I don't know about that assertion. The best games often are not free ime. Unless we are talking about piracy and retro-gaming, then by and large the best games try to make some money off the end product. No doubt.



this is just my bias I suppose. Me and my rogue-like games, love em to death


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23537886 - 08/13/16 12:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah modern science is another good example sadly... What made you realize it yesterday?

I realized it pretty much as soon as I was old enough to understand what happened to Tesla :sad:




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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 3
    #23537900 - 08/13/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It was all downhill after this came out


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: trees]
    #23537905 - 08/13/16 12:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Majora's Mask was pretty good but yeah, seems about right.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23537907 - 08/13/16 12:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Bethesda makes amazing games, ive spent almost 8,000 hours on skyrim(just an estimate), but it's only fun with mods. Ubisoft always downgrades games after E3. Activision is a vampire that loves to suck money out of the pockets of parents with 10 year old children. Dice Is a money horny b*tch that constantly pisses off their fans but a year later releases an amazing game luring you back.

Ubisoft downgrading games lol


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: PatrickKn]
    #23537912 - 08/13/16 12:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Care to elaborate or just give a vague :snub: response like is so common here in the Pub? :lol:

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haha, I mean I was aware of it beforehand, the realization was simply that it belonged on the mental list I have going, at the top of it even.




It can certainly be easy to overlook how widespread it is.

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I don't know about that assertion. The best games often are not free ime. Unless we are talking about piracy and retro-gaming, then by and large the best games try to make some money off the end product. No doubt.




"Best" is subjective though. Many of the most original games have been free and many of the most hyped and expensive games are the least original :shrug:

Clearly the most professional games are not going to be free usually but it has become easier over the years to make "free" games and still make a profit.

Games can be free and still "try to make money off the end product..."


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420] * 5
    #23537917 - 08/13/16 12:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here's my favorite game to play on my mobile phone:



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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: The Cheshire Cat] * 2
    #23537921 - 08/13/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bethesda makes amazing games, ive spent almost 8,000 hours on skyrim, but it's only fun with mods.





holy shit. thats nearly an entire year of playing. and Skyrim has only been out for 5 years


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23537952 - 08/13/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I can name you an amazing game... Totally Accurate Battle Simulator...    :mindexpanding::lol:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] * 1
    #23537959 - 08/13/16 01:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sonic is the shit! I have a sonic collection for PS2 and the original Xbox :awesomenod:

Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles are my favorites by far, I should check if I have any on my CPU right now... I could go for some sonic :lol:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Adolin]
    #23537967 - 08/13/16 01:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

The Cheshire Cat said:
Bethesda makes amazing games, ive spent almost 8,000 hours on skyrim, but it's only fun with mods.





holy shit. thats nearly an entire year of playing. and Skyrim has only been out for 5 years



Played it for 3 years back in highschool... especially during the summer lol... 8000 is an estimate :lol:, not exact, but i stopped playing the game like a  year or 2 ago.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: The Cheshire Cat] * 1
    #23537974 - 08/13/16 01:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Skyrim felt soulless to me, like hollywoodized. I really liked oblivion. It felt more like a hand crafted game.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: trees] * 3
    #23537979 - 08/13/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Daggerfall, buggy as it was, was the best of that series by far.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #23537980 - 08/13/16 01:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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A good collection of points. sad stuff.

I guess I just wish I could show every gamer out there that the best games are often free, and get them to stop feeding this beast.

I've gotta wonder if the main reason development takes so long is too much focus is on visuals and all the things that come with them. Couple of my favorite games on this earth are text based, free, and made by a handful of people.




An average modern AAA 3D game takes a team of like 20-50 people about 3 years to develop, sometimes/often longer.
Between initial concept, document design, programming, art and 3d modeling and animations, sound, and so on, and so on it takes a LOT of fucking work.

No game is free... people have families to feed. No game developer is going to invest years of their time for nothing.
There's the newish Free to Play model that has become so popular. And with it microtransactions out the ass.
I'd rather pay for a game up front and have everything then it be offered as F2P, but in all actual reality is Pay to Win and there is a pay wall to unlock all the content, which is a model many F2P games have taken.
A few companies have done the F2P model right however, by making it TRULY F2P by not limiting the character and only offering aesthetic things as purchasable items.

I play a text based MUD and have for the past 20 years now.. same one...it's the best MUD out there.. it's a paid subscription though. I don't mind because I've gotten tens of thousands of hours of entertainment from it.

If you are sick of the AAA game studios BS as many are.... there's a whole wide world of indie games out there... tons and tons and tons of amazing games.

Of course if you are limited strictly to console gaming then your choices are severely limited and GL playing any indie game teehehe #pcmasterrace


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: trees] * 1
    #23537985 - 08/13/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oblivion was awesome... i miss that game...


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: California] * 1
    #23538004 - 08/13/16 01:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Skyrim felt soulless to me, like hollywoodized. I really liked oblivion. It felt more like a hand crafted game.




I completely agree except that oblivion felt like an updated morrowind with some new additions.

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Daggerfall, buggy as it was, was the best of that series by far.




I have heard it was the best content and size wise but I just cannot get into those style of RBG's at all, morrowind was buggy too and also had primitive graphics by today's standards but at least you could actually roam freely with minimal movement restrictions. That was the first game I truly felt immersed in as a kid, it gave me a sense of adventure like no other.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420] * 2
    #23538015 - 08/13/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Bethesda should get their heads out of their asses and bug-fix Daggerfall and update the graphics and call it good.


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    #23538025 - 08/13/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

oblivion/morrowind lover too...never went back as far as daggerfall. might have to give it a go


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    #23538027 - 08/13/16 01:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bethesda should get their heads out of their asses and bug-fix Daggerfall and update the graphics and call it good.



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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 1
    #23538049 - 08/13/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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oblivion/morrowind lover too...never went back as far as daggerfall. might have to give it a go



You should give it a try.  Expect crashes and save often.
It is available for free download from Bethesda.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23538167 - 08/13/16 02:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

In a way, this has been normal for the video game industry since the beginning. For example, ET for the atari, or Daikatana. Certainly, we have a problem with the hype train like never before (thanks partly due to crowd funding and social media), but Daikatana also had a massive hype train. Back then it was rare, now it's common, but this has been something that's gone on in the game industry for a long time.

Additionally, I think crowd funding is funding a lot of totally incompetent developers with zero experience. Previously, your product spoke for itself as a finished product in the shareware/early console days. Now people get funded before they've even shown that they can make anything at all.

It's also much easier to develop games these days. You don't need people who know what they're doing if you're using Unity. You just need to hire a bunch of artists and call it a day.

That's exactly the kind of thing that happened with No Man's Sky. All art, zero engineering, zero game design. Looks pretty, but it can't even run at 30fps on the best computer that money can buy.



Edit; Also, daggerfall is an excellent game when it doesn't crash. I highly recommend it :thumbup:

Just try not to get lost in the dungeons
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23538302 - 08/13/16 03:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have been a video gamer since the sega master system. 

The choices available to gamers today is amazing.  And it's only getting better


I for one, am seriously loving some of the blockbusters.  The uncharted series is unreal.  I'm playing uncharted 4 at the moment and it's a fucking blast.  The new doom has been pretty intense and entertaining. 

I'm beyond excited for the new Zelda coming out next year.  That will be a phenomenal game. 


And I'm incredibly excited for the new resident evil going back to its survival horror roots

The last horror game I played was evil within and it was incredible

I need to try outlast.


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    #23538381 - 08/13/16 04:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The new Zelda games looks sick. Will definitely be buying the new system when it comes out. I never bought a Wii U.


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    #23538471 - 08/13/16 04:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Same! I was waiting for new Zelda.  I'll be buying the new "nx" just for that game! :smile:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23539044 - 08/13/16 09:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

about 16 years ago.........when i stopped playing video games


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    #23539878 - 08/14/16 05:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Tl;dr at bottom

The free to play model is ruining gaming so fucking fast and honestly there isn't anything we can do about it.

It's like I'm paying for cigarettes that don't even relax me at all. At least cigsrettes give me stress relief before i get cancer. F2p games are like slamming asbestos into my arm.

The whole konami/kojima pt silent hills thing is really what ruined gaming for me. I'll never be able to get excited for a video game again.

I bought into all the hype with phantom pain. That game is fucking garbage. Gameplay is so awesome, hell when i was a kid and first got into mgs i only liked the gameplay and skipped every cutscene my first ten playthroughs.

Then i decided to watch the cutscenes out of boredom.  It blew my fucking mind how awesome video games were, in the capacity to tell a genuinely awesome story.

I'll never forget that time colonel said "TURN THE CONSOLE OFF NOW,Seriously don't you have anything better to do? Playing so close to the tv is bad for your eyes." And i seriously had no clue what to think. Then in the middle of the mission the game over screen came on, but you keep playing through the game over screen.

This is what got me so fucking hooked on such a great series. Hell i just last night went to play mgs2 for the hundredth time (literally, mgs4 is the only one i have that actually keeps track of how many playthroughs you've done, I've played mgs4 120 some times) and i still find new details to this day. Never realized you could kill the enemy with steam from the pipes on the boat.

But then konami switched to f2p for mgs5, they let kojima go and barred him from making anything mgs again. He is literally the only reason the series succeeded and i would argue the only reason stealth video games are a thing.

Not only that but they wouldn't let him finish the fucking game. Maybe it was kojima's fault idk but really i can't believe I finally bought one of those unfinished video games everyone bitches about.

In gaming not completing your game is the ultimate sin. I don't care  well polished the rest of it is. I only have phantom pain so i can have the whole series sitting on my shelf (I'm that type of perfectionist :lol:). Konami fucking killed gamin for me.

Maybe it should have died before this. Hell EA is a shit company, but the thing with konami that gets me is everything they've done in the last 3-4 years has been totally intentional and just so fucking unbelievably stupid. I really can't wrap my head around the stupidity of it all.

Stl;dr fuck konami you ruined games for me.

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    #23540079 - 08/14/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I only really play indie and oldschool games these days




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    #23540313 - 08/14/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

yeah man, that new MGS and fallout 4 were the only reason I had interest in the playstation 4. We all know how those turned out :sad:

Couldn't believe how bland MGS 5's story was. The only highlight I can remember is codetalker, he's like my real life hero, but other than that..


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    #23540345 - 08/14/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

One of my favorite games was Shadow of the Colossus... I would love a new version of that game :lol:


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    #23540531 - 08/14/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ya, last time I spent $60 on a game was fallout, then probably Bioshock Infinite before that. I've been pretty tempted to check out overwatch because I've been a longtime blizzard fan, but I just don't have time to play video games anymore, $60 games least of all. Anymore they just seem like a huge waste when I could be doing something social with friends. That's why I've switched almost exclusively to tabletop gaming, it's just so much more rewarding to actually meet up with your friends face to face to share beer and bowls and talk about life over some games rather then yelling about zombies over a headset.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23540588 - 08/14/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You're absolutely right
This is why I keep an eye on the indie scene
There really are way better games coming out of small teams with no budget than there are the big guns.

It's partially because the vision of a game gets dilluted the more hands that touch it. There are some companies that yield exceptions.


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    #23540601 - 08/14/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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yeah man, that new MGS and fallout 4 were the only reason I had interest in the playstation 4. We all know how those turned out :sad:

Couldn't believe how bland MGS 5's story was. The only highlight I can remember is codetalker, he's like my real life hero, but other than that..




I thought MGS4 was intolerable. I checked out after finishing that one. You could tell the writers weren't taking it seriously at all. I felt used.


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    #23540628 - 08/14/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23540630 - 08/14/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:
Seriously though I sunk so many hours into that game


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    #23540660 - 08/14/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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That's exactly the kind of thing that happened with No Man's Sky. All art, zero engineering, zero game design. Looks pretty, but it can't even run at 30fps on the best computer that money can buy.





Why is everyone talking about No Man's Sky like it's been out for 5 years and failed miserably? I don't get it.
Was released on PC Friday.... two days ago.
I'm 8 hours in, the game is fun as fuck.
I certainly don't have a top of the line PC and I am getting over 30 FPS in lots of places.
So I'm really not sure where all this comes from. I've been hearing similar things from other people, some who haven't even played it.
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    #23540663 - 08/14/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So I did I, at least 1 year of my life on game play hours. Never got any 99 skills though, but 92 magic was the highest.


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    #23540696 - 08/14/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You're absolutely right
This is why I keep an eye on the indie scene
There really are way better games coming out of small teams with no budget than there are the big guns.

It's partially because the vision of a game gets dilluted the more hands that touch it. There are some companies that yield exceptions.





This is true to an extent.. but the bigger part of the picture is because in bigger companies.. or companies that have a major corporate shareholder..
Oftentimes the corporate executives will come in and make sweeping decisions and major changes to the game just based on future forecasts figures or some dumb shit, without knowing ANYTHING about the gameplay.
This is partially what ruins games. High level execs come in and make major changes to the core of the gameplay.. where the designers of the game itself have NO INPUT on it.

Hell, not even small studios are immune to this. I worked at a smallish indie game studio, they only had ONE game and they had been working on it for almost 7 years and it was in Beta.
They had a pretty big player base but were still struggling because the numbers weren't as high as they should have been. But the devs were completely devoted to the game, making it better, listening to the community and implementing changes based on community input. It had a GREAT community because of that. Many players were very devoted to the game because of the close relationship with the devs and how the devs listened to feedback.
(And it was a true F2P game - everything was free to advance. You could buy in game stuff but it was all mostly cosmetic or aesthetic, nothing that gave you a huge advantage over others)
But anyway, a chinese game company came in and bought out like 55% of the company and gave them a huge loan on contract (like 160million) to complete the game and launch it in China within 6 months.
Only problem with that was now they had to make all these massive changes to the game so that it would be more palatable to the Chinese audience.. they wanted to add all these social things, in-game marriage, lots of censorship of current content... etc etc etc etc. They gave us a list of like 100+ changes we had to make to the game before we could launch it in China.
All the devs were working like 80 hours a week trying to implement everything and bring it to launch in time. The game they had worked passionately on for years.. they now had to go in make changes to the game they didn't want to make, against their will. The changes ruined the core "fun" of the game and they lost tons of players. Devs got jaded by the whole process and burned out and left for other studios. The company is now in freefall and is a sinking ship because the 'executive decisions'

So yeah, it's usually a little more than the game gets diluted the more hands that touch it.
I'd say the games more often get diluted by high level execs that come in and know NOTHING about the game, but just know about metrics and numbers... and they say this game feature isn't going to bring us enough money, we need to change X and Y and Z...


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23540713 - 08/14/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I recently bought the fame total warhammer which is a top end / expensive game (like 80 dollars at release ) and I absolutely love it. I would give it a 10/10 and have played 100+ hours and barely scratched the surface .

One of the best games j have ever played .

Witcher 3 was also a sublime game, another 10/10.

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    #23540776 - 08/14/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I recently bought the fame total warhammer which is a top end / expensive game (like 80 dollars at release ) and I absolutely love it. I would give it a 10/10 and have played 100+ hours and barely scratched the surface .

One of the best games j have ever played .

Witcher 3 was also a sublime game, another 10/10.

Both games are masterpieces IMO .



always loved the total war series myself.

Witcher 3 is one of the most quality RPG's I've seen. I don't actually play because I hate the combat system (:lol:) but I love watching the cut-scenes as my brother plays. I love the level of historical accuracy for one thing. A lot of the characters in it make great additions to our D&D'ing as well.


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    #23540869 - 08/14/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The combat system in witcher 3 is actually really excellent if you take time to get used to it!

It's responsive, challenging , skill based and creative - some of the best melee combat mechanics I have ever seen in an RPG!

Total war wanammer is truly excellent. Can't recommend highly enough!

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    #23540901 - 08/14/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Mate, if you can't enjoy MGSV or The Witcher 3, give up video games now.


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    #23540918 - 08/14/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry, didn't read the second page. Witcher is arguably the best RPG made to date. Blood and Wine was such a pleasing finale.

On the combat components, if it's too easy for you, finish the main story then ramp it up to Death March on NG+ and it's awesome tenfold. Some of the boss fights are on par with Dark Souls.


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    #23540929 - 08/14/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, there is no historical accuracy for Witcher. It's a fantasy game based in a fantasy land. If you want historical accuracy, wait for Deliverance: Kingdom Come. Look it up and tell me it doesn't sound like a dream come true for medieval history buffs.

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    #23540953 - 08/14/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Alright I've always wanted to post my fantasy video game and may as well do it here. To preface i FUCKING LOVE the battlefield series to fucking death. Yes it is immensely flawed but it is the best FPS IMO on the current market. So my fantasy game is really nust a shitload of added features i want them to do.(a few of these have kinda sort of been implemented throughout the years, but i had these ideas back when the game "MAG" was out, another great fps but these small tweaks i feel would make it better.

A 64v64 player vs npc mode. Have it set to it's own account so weapons unlocked here don't crossover to pvp. This would give an illusion of larger player counts. Make the AI learn like in metal gear solid 5 and adapt throughout the game to the general trends of playing styles so by the end of every match it just gets harder and harder.

Day/night cycles on EVERY map. In addition to this if the weather stays clear there will be a morning fog. Night will be almost impossible to see without NVG flares etc. except in city maps which would have street and building lights providing visibility.

A power plant on every map. Taking this out with explosives would kill all the lights, automatic doors and elevators.

In addition to this power lines would control power to everything within a small area. So if the enemy is holding a street you could take out the power lines causing a small scale black out.

ANYTHING that can be destroyed (environmentally) can be repaired with repair tools. Even  that get leveled out.

Every building can be collapsed like in the good ol' days of bad company 2. You could repair tool the foundation to bring it back. Also have multiple animations to break up monotony. Be able to put holes in the floors and ceiling. Have slabs of wall slowly creak over and trap players. Literally trap and they need a teammate to come lift it off them.

Be able to throw guns to a teammate. It really wouldn't add much to tactical advantages, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to throw your sniper rifle to a friend who might be better with it, and have them toss it back?

Prone rolling.

When buildings fall and kill people this is recorded in it's own statistic so you know how many people you killed with destruction.

Location specific vehicle repairs and damage. If an rpg hits the rear left corner of your tank, you will repair faster the closer to the impact you are.

Completely random weather effects. (This is sort of in bf1) But don't keep it realistic. Go ahead and have a sandstorm in new york. It's a fucking video game for christ sake. But the weather comes and goes comoletely random. You may have a thunderstorm in new york for only 3 minutes on one playthrough, and sandstorm for 5 the next, and perfectly clear weather the next. Keep us on our toes.

Radio communications equipment. Each team would have antennas that when destroyed would make communicating harder. When they are destroyed you won't be able to mark objectives. When they're partially damaged have lots of static and feedback coming through the games mic. (I really wish the mic systems were in game instead of everyone doing party chats nowadays, if this were the case i would say make it so you can't communicate with teammates at all unless within a certain radius if this gets destroyed)

Fires spread and get effected by water. You could set off a grenade in a building, have it spread 3 floors but if someone pulls the fire alarm it would stop. Same with fire hydrants in the street and rainstorms.

Support class gets sandbags that they can place to make a small cover spot anywhere on the map.

Be able to drive ANY vehicle. Yes even the tractors, or operating cranes etc. Imagine being able to turn a crane to create a new sniper position. Also if the enemy hides in a freight container you could move it while their in it. But someone could also shoot the cable dropping it back to the ground.

Pull off doors and various objects for makeshift ballistic shields. Be able to just pop a door on a random civilian car open and use it for cover. Hell make EVERY door leading to an accessible room be able to open and close by player interaction.





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    #23540966 - 08/14/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Mate, if you can't enjoy MGSV or The Witcher 3, give up video games now.



As a solid fucking metal gear fan mgs5 is easily the worst of the series. Hell I'm playing mgs2 as i type this. 5 has nowhere near the replayability the others did, the story is trashed and it's unfinished. There is no excuse to release an unfinished game any more. It's even more unforgivable if they were to release the ending as dlc.(which won't happen in this case.)


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    #23540968 - 08/14/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Actually they did a ton of historical research on witcher 3 and the entire game is heavily informed and inspired by medieval history, everything from the culture and society and political system , clothing and fashions, weapons and combat style etc etc. It's a fantasy setting yes but heavily informed by medieval history .


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    #23540973 - 08/14/16 02:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Then you'll love the other game I mentioned too

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    #23541064 - 08/14/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Actually they did a ton of historical research on witcher 3 and the entire game is heavily informed and inspired by medieval history, everything from the culture and society and political system , clothing and fashions, weapons and combat style etc etc. It's a fantasy setting yes but heavily informed by medieval history .



:whathesaid:

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    #23541110 - 08/14/16 02:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone who hasn't taken serious time to get into independent games is missing out big time and Probably has an unrefined taste in video games

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    #23541133 - 08/14/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That's the hipster equivalent of comparing large name brand yet decent coffee manufacturers to their own local privately owned almond-milk-only corner stop.

Play Witcher 3 and kill a fucking basilisk.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #23541139 - 08/14/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll play limbo and rip a fucking spiders leg off
I don't need 3D graphics and big name developers.

I'm not trying to be a hipster I sincerely believe independent/small games are superior. They have more soul, more craft, and less filler.

As good as the witcher may be, I guarantee its chock full of filler. I've played the game and couldn't stand it for more than an hour or so. Once the boss animations on the gryphin started clipping and jerking around I shut it off.


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    #23541142 - 08/14/16 02:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23541145 - 08/14/16 02:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23541205 - 08/14/16 03:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Can we compromise on No Man's Sky?

It was developed by ten people. How hip can you get


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #23541244 - 08/14/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

do yourselves a favor and download teh best game ever. Rogue-like realistic survival simulator, now with zombies


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #23541262 - 08/14/16 03:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It looks ok
I've heard people who've tried it say it disappointed.
How could it not, though? They hyped it up a ton, it could never live up to the expectations that others had for it.

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    #23541333 - 08/14/16 04:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I had no real expectations for it. I heard about it a couple of weeks ago, now it's out and I've been giving it a go and I love it.

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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
    #23542594 - 08/14/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree. Going into a game or movie with all kinds of crazy expectations is likely to ruin it.
I really think that's why a lot people think No Man's Sky sucks.. they were expecting "Minecraft in Space"..or something along those lines..... it is not.
I was looking forward to the game but I didn't really have any expectations for how it was going to be or play, aside from traveling around on a spaceship and exploring planets

So far I've been thoroughly fucking entertained. I've got 22 hours in it now and I'm loving it. Slightly addicted.
We'll see if it lasts beyond the honeymoon phase. Likely not.. as I don't tend to play games for really long periods of time unless they REALLY sink their teeth in.
But if I get 50-100+ hours of quality entertainment out of it (and it's looking like it's going to surpass that already)... then I'd say that's $60 well spent.
Most I've spent for a game in a while too... and I did it because the game style appealed to me but I didn't really have any expectations for it.. I'd say I've been pleasantly surprised.


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    #23542613 - 08/15/16 12:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

No Man's Sky looks amaze-balls. i've seen some playthrough of it. it's incredible. just in the big picture, it's incredible. it might come down being just a display piece to some people, but it does get into more action i do believe, but that's besides the point -- the point is the way the game is made is insane, and awesome.

the technology, ideas, and scope of video games is awesome. it's actually rare to see a truly uninspired piece of crap game (or just plain trainwreck). more often than not, the games are just imperfect because of limitations that arrive unexpectedly, or because of the cycle of trends that push a games development ie the preeminence of graphics and overhauls of technical ceilings in regards to graphics, to details and amounts of detail ect.


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    #23542849 - 08/15/16 03:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So here's my quick review:

I can sort of see some of the complaints people make against it - it can be very repetitive when you are just grinding it out.. ie.. all the 'settlements' you find in various planets all follow the same 10 or so different patterns with a little bit of variation between them. The NPC aliens don't really "do" anything in that they are static.... aside from providing quests or blueprints or healing or trading or language lessons, lol. The combat isn't its strongest suite for sure, but I didn't really buy it to be a combat-focused game. Space ship controls are pretty clunky and making precision landings is next to impossible. You are basically doing the same things over and over again in different areas or locations to 'level up' your gear and whatnot. These are all things that can be fixed..

The pros.. there's 18 quintillion planets, each one is unique and procedurally generated. The variation between different planets is pretty neat and each single planet is fucking HUGE and you could spend your entire time playing the game just on one single planet. I spent like 8 hours just flying around questing on one planet, when I left it I had only covered like 10% of the planet.
There's MASSIVE underground cave networks stretching for miles on every planet. The random animals you see spawn are wacky and hilarious.
The artwork is colorful as fuck and fucking awesome. The diversity of climates and environments and flora/fauna on each planet is rad.
It's a LOT more than "just color changes". There's ice planets, red planets, magma planets, poison rain planets, radiation planets, water planets, earth-like planets, that's just some of the ones I've found so far. The environments and landscapes and types of plants and animals can differ drastically between the different types of planets.
Each different planet type can have different effects which can hurt you... you can mod your exosuit to protect you against.. for example the super hot planets you can get heat resistance shields, ice resistance shields, poison rain resistance, radiation resistance.. etc etc.

There's absolutely no shortage of "quests" to do as you find outposts and obelisks and shelters and drop ships etc etc.
You are constantly upgrading your tech and your inventory space and your ship.
Space travel is interesting and fun. Traveling between planets and star systems is pretty interesting.
The transition between leaving a planet and entering space is completely linear, no loading screens ever. The stuff behind you just disappears while the stuff in front of you is being generated.
Although the stuff that you leave is "thrown away" when you come back it is regenerated exactly the way you left it.

Is it a perfect game? No.. is it amazeballs? I've been playing it for 2 days straight so I think so.
Made by a small dev team, it's got some kinks that could be worked out but for a game of its scope and size I say fucking BRAVO.
There's hardly any major bugs, I have had the game crash on me exactly once and it was probably my fault.
There's some performance issues but it's a fucking massive game. For a new release from a such a small team that's fucking impressive.

Oh - underwater works well, and there's stuff underwater. Underwater movement is easy and fluid and unhindered. Some planets are mostly water. Tech that lets you breath underwater for longer times.
The underwater world is HUGE and just as varied as the above ground. There's underwater caves leading to other caves.. there's points of interest and loot to be found.. hell there might even be cities underwater for all I know.
I just thought was worth mentioning. Most games, even AAA games - going in the water usually sucks ass. If you can even swim at ALL... swimming in water is usually annoying and slow and hard to control.
Not in this game... water movement is fluid and easy to control. I gotta say, I'm pretty amazed at how well the underwater controls work even at launch.

I dislike a few minor aspects of the game but I can't wait to see what they are able to push through as development continues and they patch things.
As it is right now, game is fun as fuck. Novelty might wear off after a while but I am thoroughly entertained. For me, the pros FAR outweigh any possible cons.

If you are an uber perfectionist completionist DO NOT get this game as you will go insane.
There's like thousands of possible points of interest on each planet
You could spend weeks... if not months.. just farming and exploring a SINGLE planet, and then there are quintillions more possible planets you can visit.

But what I see is this game lets you play it how you want to... there's lots of puzzles and multiple choice questions, which become easier to understand once you start learning the alien languages.
You want to reach the Center of the Universe? You want to just go crazy on your planet? You want to be a space pirate? I see a LOT of potential for this game if development continues on it.
All in all it's a fucking fantastic game. For the scope and size of the game I am totally satisfied with it right now. I have hopes it will continue to improve.

As-is, it's got a solid foundation for being one of the best games ever made (IMO). It just needs a lot more refinement and polish. But it's a solid fucking game.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Shroomism]
    #23543046 - 08/15/16 06:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not sure where the line for big money is, but Rocket League and Overwatch are fucking awesome, as is Mortal Kombat X. If you're talking about Call of Duty type games and the like...they get pretty old. Tooling around in vehicles in Battlefield is pretty great though.


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    #23543362 - 08/15/16 09:47 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

rocket league was a breath of fresh air. Love that game long time


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23543771 - 08/15/16 11:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

mah favorite game is custer's revenge cause you get to rape a woman tied to a cactus LOL !!!! :ripebanana:


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    #23544122 - 08/15/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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If you are an uber perfectionist completionist DO NOT get this game as you will go insane.




haha, i thought the same thing, for myself. i'm like, do i really want to get so hyped...i know how i am with games...i get distracted even from the best of them, pretty easy, given enough time. but...but...but No Man's Sky is SUCH a cool game! it's harrowing. PS: underground tunnel systems? didn't know that!


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    #23544411 - 08/15/16 03:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I got no man's sky a couple days ago, and I really have no idea what all the bad reviews are about, it's fucking great :yesnod:

Easily one of the best games I own, along with rocket league.

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    #23545234 - 08/15/16 08:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23545665 - 08/15/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah modern science is another good example sadly... What made you realize it yesterday?

I realized it pretty much as soon as I was old enough to understand what happened to Tesla :sad:




What happened to Telsa!? :eek:


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    #23545669 - 08/15/16 11:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I got no man's sky a couple days ago, and I really have no idea what all the bad reviews are about, it's fucking great :yesnod:

Easily one of the best games I own, along with rocket league.

Gotta go mine more Emeril so I can buy that new spaceship
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Is it on disc? Is online required?

I have no internet so i really hope the answers are both no.

That's another cancer to video games. Online requirement. Especially for single player games or games people play for campaign. I seriously hope whoever came up with the idea for that dies the slowest painful death possible. That person and the whole room of people who heard that guy's suggestion and said :brilliant:


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    #23545679 - 08/15/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Yeah modern science is another good example sadly... What made you realize it yesterday?

I realized it pretty much as soon as I was old enough to understand what happened to Tesla :sad:




What happened to Telsa!? :eek:



I may be wrong but pretty much the bulk of what you consider Edison's inventions and career was all made by tesla. (I feel like I'm saying edison and i have the wrong name :rofl:)

Basically tesla invented a shitload of stuff and never got credit. Like a real life "social network"(the shitty facebook movie). omg as i typed out that last bit i realized how stupid it was but i had to just finish it cause it makes me laugh to much. "The real life social network" :rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:


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    #23545723 - 08/15/16 11:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I got no man's sky a couple days ago, and I really have no idea what all the bad reviews are about, it's fucking great :yesnod:

Easily one of the best games I own, along with rocket league.

Gotta go mine more Emeril so I can buy that new spaceship
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+1. It's fucking rad as shit.



It's like this weird phenomenon of rabid reddit fanboi's instantly tanking the ratings and 0 bombing every game that doesn't live up to their every wet dream... It happened with Fallout 4 as well, (and don't get me wrong the delivery of the game was fucking lame and it didn't match up to previous titles in many ways, as well as being misguided in where it put it did make its efforts) - that game was absolutely bombarded with negative ratings, and yet - it is still a decent enough game. Deserving of atleast a 7~ ... but all these fucking fanboi's think its a 0 :lol: See also: Stellaris, Hearts of Iron IV, etc.

That said, a lot of these companies could learn a thing or two from companies like CD Projekt RED

And @ lucid, no online requirement afaik (I pirated it at first here because I was so skeptical)


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    #23545931 - 08/16/16 03:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The rating system is so fucked i don't even look at the number people give. I always just read a few of the higher ratings, a few of the lower and some of the middle average scores and see what the general audience has to say about a game.

Why the hell is 7/10 average? If it weren't broke most games would have 5/10, really good games would be 7-8 and if i were a reviewer i would save anythi mg above 9 for only 1 game each year.

Instead we have companies buying reviews by putting people in weekend getaways pre release which is fucked on so many levels it makes my head fucking kill.

Fallout 4 is a great game but the lack of karma and any cause to the players effects killed it for me. A small part of me died inside when i did the "uss constitution" quest the second time playing through. Halfway through the mission you get a dialog option to
A)side with robots or
B)side with humans the robots fuck over or
C)do your own thing.
I did robots the first time so the second time i did humans. Oh what's that? You thought the mission would turn from suporting them for negative karma to attacking them for positive? Or any sort of different ending? Nope. We just decided that of all the things in fallout CHOICE was the least important feature when deciding what to bring back. But look at all these guns you get!!!

The game literally has no fallout for  actions. FUCK THAT!!!

Regarding my comments about the rating system i would personally give it a 6/10. If i rated it how the industry does now (7 being an average score) i would give it a 7.5/10. Slightly above average but nowhere near the 8 and 9(9 if I  rate similar to industry with 7 being average) i would give new vegas, and the 9.5 and 10(10 being if i rated similar to industry, 9 if i rated it where 5 is average) i would give fallout 3.


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    #23545946 - 08/16/16 03:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

To be fair, Edison is remembered because he was a businessman. Tesla was not a businessman. That's why Edison is better remembered in American history, because America doesn't give a fuck about anybody who doesn't make a ton of money. Tesla wasn't interested in money and he died poor.

Edison wasn't really a scientist, he was more of a tinkerer and an entrepreneur. He wanted to make money and to be famous, and he got what he wanted. Tesla was a scientific visionary, and he wasn't really interested in money except as a means to develop and implement his ideas. He developed the concepts behind the power grid, but because he didn't run the company that implemented it, he was promptly forgotten. America doesn't give a fuck about visionaries, or about science, or about pretty much anything. America cares about money far more than it cares about the resources (such as Tesla's brilliance) leveraged in the pursuit of it.

Science is a thankless job in America, but I'm sure Tesla derived great satisfaction from his accomplishments. I don't like the idea that such a brilliant and inspirational man should be pitied for his lack of drive to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth. He didn't give a fuck about all that shit. If he had been obsessed with wealth as Edison had been, he would not have had the time, energy, or vision to bring to fruition all of the innovations for which we Americans are finally learning to appreciate him. His poverty was his virtue.


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    #23545955 - 08/16/16 03:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The really awesome thing about Tesla is towards the end of his life he had a romantic love affair with a pidgeon, whom he loved "as a man loves a woman"

Seriously, look it up!


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    #23545958 - 08/16/16 03:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23545960 - 08/16/16 03:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If I could bring one person back from the dead to the present time I feel like it would have to be Tesla.


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Regarding my comments about the rating system i would personally give it a 6/10. If i rated it how the industry does now (7 being an average score) i would give it a 7.5/10. Slightly above average but nowhere near the 8 and 9(9 if I  rate similar to industry with 7 being average) i would give new vegas, and the 9.5 and 10(10 being if i rated similar to industry, 9 if i rated it where 5 is average) i would give fallout 3.




Go back and give Fallout 1 and 2 a go. :wink:
See the foundation that New Vegas was built upon,
and why Bethesda wrote the love-letter with 3.

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To be fair, Edison is remembered because he was a businessman. Tesla was not a businessman. That's why Edison is better remembered in American history, because America doesn't give a fuck about anybody who doesn't make a ton of money. Tesla wasn't interested in money and he died poor.

Edison wasn't really a scientist, he was more of a tinkerer and an entrepreneur. He wanted to make money and to be famous, and he got what he wanted. Tesla was a scientific visionary, and he wasn't really interested in money except as a means to develop and implement his ideas. He developed the concepts behind the power grid, but because he didn't run the company that implemented it, he was promptly forgotten. America doesn't give a fuck about visionaries, or about science, or about pretty much anything. America cares about money far more than it cares about the resources (such as Tesla's brilliance) leveraged in the pursuit of it.

Science is a thankless job in America, but I'm sure Tesla derived great satisfaction from his accomplishments. I don't like the idea that such a brilliant and inspirational man should be pitied for his lack of drive to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth. He didn't give a fuck about all that shit. If he had been obsessed with wealth as Edison had been, he would not have had the time, energy, or vision to bring to fruition all of the innovations for which we Americans are finally learning to appreciate him. His poverty was his virtue.



I love this sunny in philly quote. Charlie is trying to find an amgle to hook up with strippers when they pass a costume store. There's a soldier outfit in the display window.

Charlie:HOLD ON I GOT IT! Who gets the most respect in this country?

Frank:Actors

C: yeah but then after that

F: Musicians

C:No after that

F: Singers, athletes models, scientists, producers writers

C: LOOK FRANK STOP! Now look if you buy me this army vet I'll show these women a good time they'll never forget.



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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
    #23546706 - 08/16/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'll bet you Edison didn't love a god damn soul




Didn't he electrocute cats in public using Teslas alternating current just to try and prove it was too dangerous to replace his direct current?

Yeah seems very scummy to me...

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Science is a thankless job in America, but I'm sure Tesla derived great satisfaction from his accomplishments. I don't like the idea that such a brilliant and inspirational man should be pitied for his lack of drive to accumulate obscene amounts of wealth. He didn't give a fuck about all that shit. If he had been obsessed with wealth as Edison had been, he would not have had the time, energy, or vision to bring to fruition all of the innovations for which we Americans are finally learning to appreciate him. His poverty was his virtue.




What is truly sad though is how many of his accomplishments and ideas got swept under the rug becouse they were designed to be efficient not profitable.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23546716 - 08/16/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

cats? I had only heard of him shocking an elephant, maybe to death I don't remember

an elephant makes a more sense, not beloved and very hard to kill


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    #23546750 - 08/16/16 12:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I wish they still made super nintendo games.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
    #23546936 - 08/16/16 01:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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cats? I had only heard of him shocking an elephant, maybe to death I don't remember

an elephant makes a more sense, not beloved and very hard to kill




I heard about the elephant too but from what I heard is he was doing demonstrations with cats then at one point an elephant escaped somewhere so he took it as an opportunity to prove tesla current are deadly enough to kill an elephant... I never looked into it so I may be wrong though :shrug:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: musiclover420]
    #23547310 - 08/16/16 04:03 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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cats? I had only heard of him shocking an elephant, maybe to death I don't remember

an elephant makes a more sense, not beloved and very hard to kill




I heard about the elephant too but from what I heard is he was doing demonstrations with cats then at one point an elephant escaped somewhere so he took it as an opportunity to prove tesla current are deadly enough to kill an elephant... I never looked into it so I may be wrong though :shrug:



How is THIS of all things not a movie?


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: LuSiD enthusiast]
    #23547752 - 08/16/16 06:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:ohyou:

That would make a funny ass movie, I would hope it would be a comedy. Could be some golden satire/ social commentary right there :tongue2:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Sanguin3] * 1
    #23548307 - 08/16/16 09:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Just dropping in to say no man's sky is fantastic, fuck the haters. It does get a little repetitive but it goes a little deeper than what people thought after playing for an hour.





I'm 30 hours in and still loving every bit of it. Fucking fantastic game. I haven't been more impressed or obsessed by a game AT launch in a long ass time.
Yeah it's a little repetitive when you are grinding up, but that doesn't really take away from the fun of the game IMO.
And that repetitiveness can be fixed in the long term if the developers keep working on it.
Like I said before, I think it has a SOLID foundation to be one of the best games ever (IMO)... it just needs more refinement and polish to fix some of the repetitiveness issues and other relatively minor things.
If they did an overhaul to the whole "questing" system to give it more diversity.. made NPCs a little more lively and found wandering around the planets and whatnot... that would fix half of the "problems" I have with the game.
But even still, as it is now... game fucking rules, despite its flaws. For every flaw I can find 10 things I like way more.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Svetaketu]
    #23555316 - 08/18/16 10:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I got no man's sky a couple days ago, and I really have no idea what all the bad reviews are about, it's fucking great




I've been following it for a while and haven't gotten it because of mixed reviews. Probably going to pick it up once it goes on sale and some bugs have been ironed out. It looks beautiful, even with some of the creatures looking broken as hell, lol.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Xingu]
    #23555348 - 08/18/16 10:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Video games, LOL.


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] * 2
    #23555383 - 08/18/16 10:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

https://webmshare.com/play/MewZb

Can't embed webms here afaik... but its worth the click :rofl:


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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: twighead]
    #23555492 - 08/18/16 11:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You guys know what mgs5 phantom pain was missing? No no, not an ending. Zombies, check out metal gear survive if you really want to see the worst of the worst.


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