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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Sophistic Radiance] 3
#23540079 - 08/14/16 08:16 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sophistic Radiance said: I only really play indie and oldschool games these days
Yeah same here.



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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: psi]
#23540313 - 08/14/16 10:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah man, that new MGS and fallout 4 were the only reason I had interest in the playstation 4. We all know how those turned out 
Couldn't believe how bland MGS 5's story was. The only highlight I can remember is codetalker, he's like my real life hero, but other than that..
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr] 1
#23540345 - 08/14/16 10:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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One of my favorite games was Shadow of the Colossus... I would love a new version of that game
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: The Cheshire Cat]
#23540531 - 08/14/16 11:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Ya, last time I spent $60 on a game was fallout, then probably Bioshock Infinite before that. I've been pretty tempted to check out overwatch because I've been a longtime blizzard fan, but I just don't have time to play video games anymore, $60 games least of all. Anymore they just seem like a huge waste when I could be doing something social with friends. That's why I've switched almost exclusively to tabletop gaming, it's just so much more rewarding to actually meet up with your friends face to face to share beer and bowls and talk about life over some games rather then yelling about zombies over a headset.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540588 - 08/14/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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You're absolutely right This is why I keep an eye on the indie scene There really are way better games coming out of small teams with no budget than there are the big guns.
It's partially because the vision of a game gets dilluted the more hands that touch it. There are some companies that yield exceptions.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540601 - 08/14/16 11:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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rbalzer said: yeah man, that new MGS and fallout 4 were the only reason I had interest in the playstation 4. We all know how those turned out 
Couldn't believe how bland MGS 5's story was. The only highlight I can remember is codetalker, he's like my real life hero, but other than that..
I thought MGS4 was intolerable. I checked out after finishing that one. You could tell the writers weren't taking it seriously at all. I felt used.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
#23540628 - 08/14/16 11:57 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The truly most enjoyable and worthwhile game I ever played
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: trees]
#23540630 - 08/14/16 11:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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 Seriously though I sunk so many hours into that game
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: nooneman]
#23540660 - 08/14/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: That's exactly the kind of thing that happened with No Man's Sky. All art, zero engineering, zero game design. Looks pretty, but it can't even run at 30fps on the best computer that money can buy.
Why is everyone talking about No Man's Sky like it's been out for 5 years and failed miserably? I don't get it. Was released on PC Friday.... two days ago. I'm 8 hours in, the game is fun as fuck. I certainly don't have a top of the line PC and I am getting over 30 FPS in lots of places. So I'm really not sure where all this comes from. I've been hearing similar things from other people, some who haven't even played it. Does everyone just watch one biased game reviewer and decide a game sucks or what?
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: ModestMouse]
#23540663 - 08/14/16 12:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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So I did I, at least 1 year of my life on game play hours. Never got any 99 skills though, but 92 magic was the highest.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: ModestMouse]
#23540696 - 08/14/16 12:19 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said: You're absolutely right This is why I keep an eye on the indie scene There really are way better games coming out of small teams with no budget than there are the big guns.
It's partially because the vision of a game gets dilluted the more hands that touch it. There are some companies that yield exceptions.
This is true to an extent.. but the bigger part of the picture is because in bigger companies.. or companies that have a major corporate shareholder.. Oftentimes the corporate executives will come in and make sweeping decisions and major changes to the game just based on future forecasts figures or some dumb shit, without knowing ANYTHING about the gameplay. This is partially what ruins games. High level execs come in and make major changes to the core of the gameplay.. where the designers of the game itself have NO INPUT on it.
Hell, not even small studios are immune to this. I worked at a smallish indie game studio, they only had ONE game and they had been working on it for almost 7 years and it was in Beta. They had a pretty big player base but were still struggling because the numbers weren't as high as they should have been. But the devs were completely devoted to the game, making it better, listening to the community and implementing changes based on community input. It had a GREAT community because of that. Many players were very devoted to the game because of the close relationship with the devs and how the devs listened to feedback. (And it was a true F2P game - everything was free to advance. You could buy in game stuff but it was all mostly cosmetic or aesthetic, nothing that gave you a huge advantage over others) But anyway, a chinese game company came in and bought out like 55% of the company and gave them a huge loan on contract (like 160million) to complete the game and launch it in China within 6 months. Only problem with that was now they had to make all these massive changes to the game so that it would be more palatable to the Chinese audience.. they wanted to add all these social things, in-game marriage, lots of censorship of current content... etc etc etc etc. They gave us a list of like 100+ changes we had to make to the game before we could launch it in China. All the devs were working like 80 hours a week trying to implement everything and bring it to launch in time. The game they had worked passionately on for years.. they now had to go in make changes to the game they didn't want to make, against their will. The changes ruined the core "fun" of the game and they lost tons of players. Devs got jaded by the whole process and burned out and left for other studios. The company is now in freefall and is a sinking ship because the 'executive decisions'
So yeah, it's usually a little more than the game gets diluted the more hands that touch it. I'd say the games more often get diluted by high level execs that come in and know NOTHING about the game, but just know about metrics and numbers... and they say this game feature isn't going to bring us enough money, we need to change X and Y and Z...
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540713 - 08/14/16 12:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I recently bought the fame total warhammer which is a top end / expensive game (like 80 dollars at release ) and I absolutely love it. I would give it a 10/10 and have played 100+ hours and barely scratched the surface .
One of the best games j have ever played .
Witcher 3 was also a sublime game, another 10/10.
Both games are masterpieces IMO .
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Moonshoe]
#23540776 - 08/14/16 12:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Moonshoe said: I recently bought the fame total warhammer which is a top end / expensive game (like 80 dollars at release ) and I absolutely love it. I would give it a 10/10 and have played 100+ hours and barely scratched the surface .
One of the best games j have ever played .
Witcher 3 was also a sublime game, another 10/10.
Both games are masterpieces IMO .
always loved the total war series myself.
Witcher 3 is one of the most quality RPG's I've seen. I don't actually play because I hate the combat system ( ) but I love watching the cut-scenes as my brother plays. I love the level of historical accuracy for one thing. A lot of the characters in it make great additions to our D&D'ing as well.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540869 - 08/14/16 01:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The combat system in witcher 3 is actually really excellent if you take time to get used to it!
It's responsive, challenging , skill based and creative - some of the best melee combat mechanics I have ever seen in an RPG!
Total war wanammer is truly excellent. Can't recommend highly enough!
Can't wait to play...
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540901 - 08/14/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Mate, if you can't enjoy MGSV or The Witcher 3, give up video games now.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
#23540918 - 08/14/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sorry, didn't read the second page. Witcher is arguably the best RPG made to date. Blood and Wine was such a pleasing finale.
On the combat components, if it's too easy for you, finish the main story then ramp it up to Death March on NG+ and it's awesome tenfold. Some of the boss fights are on par with Dark Souls.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540929 - 08/14/16 01:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Also, there is no historical accuracy for Witcher. It's a fantasy game based in a fantasy land. If you want historical accuracy, wait for Deliverance: Kingdom Come. Look it up and tell me it doesn't sound like a dream come true for medieval history buffs.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Psilosopherr]
#23540953 - 08/14/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Alright I've always wanted to post my fantasy video game and may as well do it here. To preface i FUCKING LOVE the battlefield series to fucking death. Yes it is immensely flawed but it is the best FPS IMO on the current market. So my fantasy game is really nust a shitload of added features i want them to do.(a few of these have kinda sort of been implemented throughout the years, but i had these ideas back when the game "MAG" was out, another great fps but these small tweaks i feel would make it better.
A 64v64 player vs npc mode. Have it set to it's own account so weapons unlocked here don't crossover to pvp. This would give an illusion of larger player counts. Make the AI learn like in metal gear solid 5 and adapt throughout the game to the general trends of playing styles so by the end of every match it just gets harder and harder.
Day/night cycles on EVERY map. In addition to this if the weather stays clear there will be a morning fog. Night will be almost impossible to see without NVG flares etc. except in city maps which would have street and building lights providing visibility.
A power plant on every map. Taking this out with explosives would kill all the lights, automatic doors and elevators.
In addition to this power lines would control power to everything within a small area. So if the enemy is holding a street you could take out the power lines causing a small scale black out.
ANYTHING that can be destroyed (environmentally) can be repaired with repair tools. Even that get leveled out.
Every building can be collapsed like in the good ol' days of bad company 2. You could repair tool the foundation to bring it back. Also have multiple animations to break up monotony. Be able to put holes in the floors and ceiling. Have slabs of wall slowly creak over and trap players. Literally trap and they need a teammate to come lift it off them.
Be able to throw guns to a teammate. It really wouldn't add much to tactical advantages, but wouldn't it be nice to be able to throw your sniper rifle to a friend who might be better with it, and have them toss it back?
Prone rolling.
When buildings fall and kill people this is recorded in it's own statistic so you know how many people you killed with destruction.
Location specific vehicle repairs and damage. If an rpg hits the rear left corner of your tank, you will repair faster the closer to the impact you are.
Completely random weather effects. (This is sort of in bf1) But don't keep it realistic. Go ahead and have a sandstorm in new york. It's a fucking video game for christ sake. But the weather comes and goes comoletely random. You may have a thunderstorm in new york for only 3 minutes on one playthrough, and sandstorm for 5 the next, and perfectly clear weather the next. Keep us on our toes.
Radio communications equipment. Each team would have antennas that when destroyed would make communicating harder. When they are destroyed you won't be able to mark objectives. When they're partially damaged have lots of static and feedback coming through the games mic. (I really wish the mic systems were in game instead of everyone doing party chats nowadays, if this were the case i would say make it so you can't communicate with teammates at all unless within a certain radius if this gets destroyed)
Fires spread and get effected by water. You could set off a grenade in a building, have it spread 3 floors but if someone pulls the fire alarm it would stop. Same with fire hydrants in the street and rainstorms.
Support class gets sandbags that they can place to make a small cover spot anywhere on the map.
Be able to drive ANY vehicle. Yes even the tractors, or operating cranes etc. Imagine being able to turn a crane to create a new sniper position. Also if the enemy hides in a freight container you could move it while their in it. But someone could also shoot the cable dropping it back to the ground.
Pull off doors and various objects for makeshift ballistic shields. Be able to just pop a door on a random civilian car open and use it for cover. Hell make EVERY door leading to an accessible room be able to open and close by player interaction.
There's a few more big ideas i got but this is all that comes to mind at the moment.
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
#23540966 - 08/14/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Into The Woods said: Mate, if you can't enjoy MGSV or The Witcher 3, give up video games now.
As a solid fucking metal gear fan mgs5 is easily the worst of the series. Hell I'm playing mgs2 as i type this. 5 has nowhere near the replayability the others did, the story is trashed and it's unfinished. There is no excuse to release an unfinished game any more. It's even more unforgivable if they were to release the ending as dlc.(which won't happen in this case.)
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Re: Anybody else realized that every big money video game is garbage? [Re: Into The Woods]
#23540968 - 08/14/16 02:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Actually they did a ton of historical research on witcher 3 and the entire game is heavily informed and inspired by medieval history, everything from the culture and society and political system , clothing and fashions, weapons and combat style etc etc. It's a fantasy setting yes but heavily informed by medieval history .
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