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gtpen
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Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work?
#6243540 - 11/03/06 12:49 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Anyone try chewing dry salvia leaves, or extract for that matter? I have a quite a few ounces of the stuff and have found it hard to break through simply because of the large quantity of leaf needed to be smoked to break through. And if chewing is possible, for how long should I chew? Thanks!
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Edited by gtpen (11/03/06 12:52 PM)
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notapillow
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: gtpen]
#6243566 - 11/03/06 12:56 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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u gotta make a quid. its like a little packet that you let sit in your gum and soak in. i wouyld just smoke the leafes. it shouldent take moe then 3-5 bowls to break through if done correctly
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gtpen
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: notapillow]
#6243592 - 11/03/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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How do you recommend smoking the leaves? In fast succession (how fast)?
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: gtpen]
#6243595 - 11/03/06 01:00 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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i have a book in which the author has done research and some people eat up to 20 leaves, "plant powers, poisons, and herb craft" by dale pendell, good book, can be found online in ebook form pdf
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notapillow
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: 5150]
#6243612 - 11/03/06 01:04 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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yes smoke it s fast as you feel comfurtable doing. try to keep going untill you are sure somthing begins to overtake you. use a water pipe. take long hard hits and hold them for at leased 20 seconds. using a torch ighter has always helped me get bigger hits at higher temps. but i have heard that it is not nessisary.
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: 5150]
#6243623 - 11/03/06 01:06 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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salvia has a reverse tolerance so as you smoke the leaves more and more they should have more of an effect on you. however if you still dont like smoking the amount of leaves you have to to break through(it can be difficult for someone whos never smoked it before to break through on regular leaves) then you could either buy some extract or make your own with what you have. heres a link to how to do an extraction yourself
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat...rue#Post4804694
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: notapillow]
#6243665 - 11/03/06 01:14 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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notapillow said: using a torch lighter has always helped me get bigger hits at higher temps. but i have heard that it is not necessary.
For me, this made all the difference in the world. After many trials, it seems to me that using a torch lighter is absolutely essential to get the very most out of dried leaf (Using a torch lighter also necessitates the use of a water pipe as you said, b/c of how hot the smoke can get). For an extract of anything above 15x, the torch lighter has never seemed necessary, b/c the intensity of such extracts never seem to fail to deliver an awesome experience.
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kaniz
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: notapillow]
#6243700 - 11/03/06 01:22 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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I'd actually be curious to try a quid method some time soon, its a longer lasting trip and not quite the kick in the balls. Mind you, trying to chew the quid for 30+ mins and not spitting or swallowing anything sounds like it'd be a tricky task.
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kaniz
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: kaniz]
#6243736 - 11/03/06 01:31 PM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Trip report from a quid (not mine, just found it interesting)
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12:50 AM Not in a great mood now, but I’ll try it (Salvia Divinorum) anyway. Somehow, the time feels right.
I sit on the computer room floor, set the light on dim and let the music (Peace of Mind, Windham Hill) play softly. My mood soon improves. I watch the clock on the computer screen.
I chew an eight-leaf quid sweetened with honey. Garrgh,--it’s still unpleasantly bitter, but bearable. I chew, keep the quid and spittle under my tongue, and chew again.
1:05 Something’s clearly not 'normal', though can’t say exactly what. Now I know I’m not a Salvia hardhead. I fight the bitterness and bulk in my mouth that's bulging from the spittle and leaf pieces.
1:10 Too soon to spit the quid out, so I struggle to keep it in. Eyes feel heavy. They close… and in my mind’s eye, a dove—-this one’s light gray or silver, not white. I “flow into” the dove's body which in turn flows into a jet plane's body and begins to takes off. Music’s now Prelude in C with Ave Maria from the Well-Tempered Clavier. An angelic voice tells me to forget about the quid in my mouth and catch this plane. I remember to spit the quid out on the plate. I take the second quid (four leaves), but now it's become hard to chew the right way. Should’ve used just one big quid.
I think of the Salvia leaves in my mouth. Eyes closed, I see a wall of green foliage. A crack in the wall assumes the shape of a pair of scissors. The 'Salvia leaf scissors' cuts across, and the wall opens up like a zipper. (Sally cutting through the “veil of illusion”?)
1:20? Time to expel the second quid. But my body turns into wood — first feet, then legs, chest, face. Like I’ve become some kind of human-shaped cabinet. Not a finished cabinet, though—-branches and leaves sprout from the feet.
Quid won’t come out! Face feels like it’s been fused into a wooden wall. Could’ve been start of real bad trip, but effect seems more interesting than terrifying. (I guess since I’m chewing instead of smoking, I never completely lose sense of time and self.)
My life as a piece of furniture’s soon over. 'Back to normal again,' I sigh. Thankfully, I’m able to spit the quid out. Part of the gross stuff spills on my shirt, but at least the carpet's been spared.
Somehow manage to remove shirt. Tell myself this trip's over.
Try to stand but can't. Some kind of super-gravity’s pinning me to the floor. I’m lying sideways, unable to move.
Then I lose my body. Fully conscious, I fuse into a verdant countryside of rolling hills and tall pines. I see a “cross section” of the landscape—-blue sky, leaves and massive trunks, the topsoil and humus, and I'm lying underneath, face down, while the roots of great trees sprout from my back. The metamorphosis and immobility aren't frightening at all, but appear as the most natural things. Douglas Spotted Eagle’s Dieshu is playing—-a beautiful plaintive piece with the Native American flute. It sounds like a dirge filled with joy. I’ve “died” and merged with the Earth. It’s such a wonderful release....
And a vision of eternal life. I’ve become pure soul, but it’s not “my” soul, since the “me” has completely vanished. Some kind of Universal Soul. It’s a vision I see and actually feel: there’s only one life being lived in the universe, and everything—-inanimate objects, plants, animals—-are inseparably joined to the Great Organism. It’s so peaceful and final. I'm not happy or sad, and just accept it all.
1:40 Peak of the experience is over. I’d like to 'declare' the trip over, but one thing still doesn't look right. A strange silvery glow on my computer’s exterior. There's a miniature night sky inside my humble machine—-a hole or portal into another universe. I gaze for a few minutes at this apparition, shake my head, and then tell myself I've returned. But the “night sky” persists for a while.
1:50 I crawl back into the armchair and start writing up this report while details are still fresh. So much has happened in just a few minutes. The most beautiful visions I’ve seen, and some of the strangest.
Visions I’d like to remember on the day that I die. But right now I'm more stunned than awed.
Then slowly, it all comes back: the full weight of it. An overwhelming awe. There'll be much to sort out till the next encounter with Ska Pastora.
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gtpen
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: kaniz]
#6246603 - 11/04/06 10:35 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Thanks for the report, and the advise. So how would I make a quid, and can this only be done with fresh leafs?
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: gtpen]
#6246689 - 11/04/06 11:10 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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Chewing dry leaves has worked very well for me. I usually take around 5 or so leaves and simply start chewing. Hold the leaves in the cheeks and under the tongue, spitting when necessary. Some websites instruct you to add water to dry leaves but I find this is not necessary. My leaves are supposed to be above average potency according to the vendor so take that for what it's worth.
Keep in mind that it takes a long time to come up and the experience will last much longer. I have never achieved effects similar to smoking but there is a definite shift in perception and thought pattern. It is hard to notice though since it sets in so gradually over time.
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: gtpen]
#6246830 - 11/04/06 11:43 AM (17 years, 3 months ago) |
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you should be able to rehydrate the dry leaves with a little water in a bag or a damp towel or something...
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: notapillow]
#23536453 - 08/12/16 10:34 PM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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Its been almost a decade, but thx for this post... now have 2 growing niceley.
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Re: Chewing dry salvia leafs, does it work? [Re: Shrooms42day]
#23536770 - 08/13/16 01:06 AM (7 years, 6 months ago) |
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