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    #23535892 - 08/12/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ahmed Mohamed brought a metal case with wires hanging out to school, and the police were called.  The left got indignant at the 'violation of his rights.'

https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Mohamed_clock_incident

I say, OK.  Next time a kid makes his finger into the shape of a gun and pretends he is shooting, don't do anything.  FUCKING HYPOCRITES.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23535914 - 08/12/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Of
Course democrats are hypocrites,'what else is new?


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23536252 - 08/12/16 09:26 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

When I was in high school I built a small functional cannon in metal shop . I carried it around for a day so everyone could check it out . Im white though so it was all good .


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: psilynut]
    #23539085 - 08/13/16 09:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Idiots who excuse this retarded Muslim pave the way for future acts of terror, and multi million dollar lawsuits, hooray entitlements!:cookiemonster:


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: hostileuniverse] * 1
    #23539249 - 08/13/16 10:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What  do entitlements have to do with future acts of terror and retarded school kids your prejudice against ?    Please explain your nonsensical rambling in a manner that I can halfway understand .


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23540250 - 08/14/16 09:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Idiots who excuse this retarded Muslim pave the way for future acts of terror, and multi million dollar lawsuits, hooray entitlements!:cookiemonster:





no. 


there was no reason to jump to the conclusion that the student constructed an IDE (or bomb).  nor did they give the student a chance to show or explain his science project.


if you don't want kids doing things like this, maybe have intelligent, or gifted children in classes where the teacher is more intelligent than they are


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: demiu5]
    #23540483 - 08/14/16 11:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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What  do entitlements have to do with future acts of terror and retarded school kids your prejudice against ?    Please explain your nonsensical rambling in a manner that I can halfway understand .



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Idiots who excuse this retarded Muslim pave the way for future acts of terror, and multi million dollar lawsuits, hooray entitlements!:cookiemonster:





no. 


there was no reason to jump to the conclusion that the student constructed an IDE (or bomb).  nor did they give the student a chance to show or explain his science project.


if you don't want kids doing things like this, maybe have intelligent, or gifted children in classes where the teacher is more intelligent than they are




BS, when kids are being suspended for chewing a pop tart into the shape of a gun, and we can't question someone who clearly mocks up a suitcase bomb, our society is lost.

Google suitcase bomb, then Google clockboy, then if you're still confused, get back to me...


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23540616 - 08/14/16 11:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

LOL suspending a kid for a poptart gun and arresting a kid for a homemade clock are on equal levels of stupidity.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #23541614 - 08/14/16 05:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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LOL suspending a kid for a poptart gun and arresting a kid for a homemade clock are on equal levels of stupidity.




You are spot-on.  So why does Clock Boy get all this symptathetic press--even from the president--but its crickets except for a few right wing talkers when it comes to 'finger guns?'


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23542340 - 08/14/16 09:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Protected class status, if you're one of them, you'd know it


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23542503 - 08/14/16 11:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hmm i thought at the time it wasn't stupid at all, he didn't build a clock, he  assemblled a box around a piece of electronics that was a clock, that looked like a bomb. They didn't charge him, but given, that he didn't make the clock as he claimed a police escort off of school ptoperty and holding him till his parents could get him was not unreasonable.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23543095 - 08/15/16 07:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You are spot-on.  So why does Clock Boy get all this symptathetic press--even from the president--but its crickets except for a few right wing talkers when it comes to 'finger guns?



 
Nevada and Florida both passed laws protecting pop tart guns  , there was a little more than just talk .

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Florida Gov. Rick Scott Signs ‘Pop-Tart’ Gun Bill Into Law

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/5518167


Senate Passes “Pop-Tart” Bill to Prevent Student Suspension

http://truthinmedia.com/nv-senate-passes-pop-tart-bill-to-prevent-student-suspensions-for-pretend-guns/







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Protected class status , if your one of them , you'd know it .



Yep , if your in Florida or Nevada you'd really know because there are actual laws protecting your finger gun rights .  Did anyone pass any laws for clock boy ?


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23543229 - 08/15/16 08:56 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
LOL suspending a kid for a poptart gun and arresting a kid for a homemade clock are on equal levels of stupidity.




You are spot-on.  So why does Clock Boy get all this symptathetic press--even from the president--but its crickets except for a few right wing talkers when it comes to 'finger guns?'




Must be the liberals.


Seriously though, you dont see the difference between embracing a kid for being discriminated against and overreacting to a gesture towards shooting someone?

Maybe if the clock kid had a red switch coming out of his shirt for turning the clock on youd have an apt comparison.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23543418 - 08/15/16 09:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
LOL suspending a kid for a poptart gun and arresting a kid for a homemade clock are on equal levels of stupidity.




You are spot-on.  So why does Clock Boy get all this symptathetic press--even from the president--but its crickets except for a few right wing talkers when it comes to 'finger guns?'




Must be the liberals.


Seriously though, you dont see the difference between embracing a kid for being discriminated against and overreacting to a gesture towards shooting someone?

Maybe if the clock kid had a red switch coming out of his shirt for turning the clock on youd have an apt comparison.




No.  I see it as reasonable that if someone brings something to school that looks like a bomb, or gives the perception of such a thing, then it should be looked at by the police.

Now, there is no need to throw people out of school etc for stupidity as such, UNLESS is was with intent of creating fear. 

For example, the idiot guards at the UTC mall in la jolla fucking approached me for holding a ukulele case, thinking I might have a gun.

While that is pretty fucking stupid from their point of view, I was just carrying a ukulele, and they did have a right if they had suspicion to at least ask me whats in the case.

My attitude could have been 'How dare you' and getting lawyer-ed up and trying to get some $$, but I'm a reasonable fucking person.  Unlike Clockboy's current situation--he's moved from the US and they are suing for big money.

Fucking ridiculous.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23543429 - 08/15/16 10:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ok...but that doesnt change the glaring differences between the two examples.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23543486 - 08/15/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You see Clock Boy as being the victim of discrimination, I see Clock Boy as taking advantage of his status as a protected class to get money for nothing.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes] * 1
    #23543763 - 08/15/16 11:42 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You realize he and his family got chased out of the country because of death threats, right?

He's hardly capitalizing.

Regardless of how I view him, he was the victim of discrimination.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23544320 - 08/15/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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No.  I see it as reasonable that if someone brings something to school that looks like a bomb, or gives the perception of such a thing, then it should be looked at by the police.







Agreed 100%. If something looks like a bomb, I would hope it would get inspected. There is nothing unreasonable about that. It holds to the 4th amendment and falls underneath as a probable cause search.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23544655 - 08/15/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You realize he and his family got chased out of the country because of death threats, right?

He's hardly capitalizing.

Regardless of how I view him, he was the victim of discrimination.




Wrong, he was embraced and celebrated by the president, how is that "run out of the country"? You libs are hilarious

15 million for being held overnight ISN'T capitalizing? Let me guess, you're a liberal...

Discrimination? Are there no Islamic ficking terrorists? What the fuck dude? You really think prevention is stupid, don't you???


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: hostileuniverse]
    #23545278 - 08/15/16 08:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Youve proven my point and you dont even realize it. Cant say im surprised.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23545369 - 08/15/16 09:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, I've proven that you have no idea what the fuck youre talking about, kudos for me:cookiemonster:


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: starfire_xes]
    #23545721 - 08/15/16 11:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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The Ecstatic said:
LOL suspending a kid for a poptart gun and arresting a kid for a homemade clock are on equal levels of stupidity.




You are spot-on.  So why does Clock Boy get all this symptathetic press--even from the president--but its crickets except for a few right wing talkers when it comes to 'finger guns?'



look see, see where you two come together.



both correct assertions.


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    #23545730 - 08/15/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

starfire_xes said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
LOL suspending a kid for a poptart gun and arresting a kid for a homemade clock are on equal levels of stupidity.




You are spot-on.  So why does Clock Boy get all this symptathetic press--even from the president--but its crickets except for a few right wing talkers when it comes to 'finger guns?'




Must be the liberals.


Seriously though, you dont see the difference between embracing a kid for being discriminated against and overreacting to a gesture towards shooting someone?

Maybe if the clock kid had a red switch coming out of his shirt for turning the clock on youd have an apt comparison.




No.  I see it as reasonable that if someone brings something to school that looks like a bomb, or gives the perception of such a thing, then it should be looked at by the police.

Now, there is no need to throw people out of school etc for stupidity as such, UNLESS is was with intent of creating fear. 

For example, the idiot guards at the UTC mall in la jolla fucking approached me for holding a ukulele case, thinking I might have a gun.

While that is pretty fucking stupid from their point of view, I was just carrying a ukulele, and they did have a right if they had suspicion to at least ask me whats in the case.

My attitude could have been 'How dare you' and getting lawyer-ed up and trying to get some $$, but I'm a reasonable fucking person.  Unlike Clockboy's current situation--he's moved from the US and they are suing for big money.

Fucking ridiculous.



apples and oranges.

this kid is not culpable in the same regard as an adult. you should know this fairly fucking basic concept. kids are easily influenced. i bet any money that you think he was "set up" to do it...one of those people? well, look, i don't give even enough fucks to slay any time trying to dig up shit. the point is a forgone conclusion, because it's not about that. you wanna talk about that, that's different then talking about the kid...the kid is not culpable, he is just literally going to school, he went to the teacher, informed his teacher that he had what he had...these are the facts...then he was told to put it down, and leave it with him; then the snafu happened. he was snarked upon, he was arrested. the snarking still continues. it's unjust.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #23546259 - 08/16/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Exactly :thumbup:


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #23547108 - 08/16/16 02:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The whole show was all setup by his parents.


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    #23547161 - 08/16/16 03:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

it always comes down to the hoi polloi's bedrock assumptions that certain people have to resort to.


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Re: Clock Boy [Re: falcon]
    #23548713 - 08/17/16 01:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hmm i thought at the time it wasn't stupid at all, he didn't build a clock, he  assemblled a box around a piece of electronics that was a clock, that looked like a bomb. They didn't charge him, but given, that he didn't make the clock as he claimed a police escort off of school ptoperty and holding him till his parents could get him was not unreasonable.




Bullshit. At the time it was stupid. At worst it should have stopped at the principal. At worst he could have gotten in touch with the CHILD'S parents and explained what problem they had. Calling the police was out of fear. unfounded fear. principal asks the kid to explain and then tells parents if that bended any rules. Calling the cops was out of fear and incompetence(I'd argue hate but not even going there yet). The cop should have been like, "what the fuck are you wasting my time with this shit?" That the cop takes him into custody brings the whole situation to an entirely new level of fear(hate). Look at the kid. I see an almost stereotypical looking nerd. He posed no threat. Again the principal should have explained the schools position to the boys parents if even that.
Where are the reports of these children with poptart guns getting taken to the police station. If that is a real thing then that is stupid as well.

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