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SHROOM HEAD

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: cronicr]
#23547811 - 08/16/16 06:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Word, I'll check out his work. Thank you cron. 
Awakening taught me the most about wood lover cultivation. He does not post much, but when he does, it's straight gold. He's awesome, the absolute master of primary wood decomposing species, he's a king pin in my eyes, spoon fed me a shit load of knowledge aswell, I learned from the best! https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?uid=351700
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cronicr



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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Hashed]
#23547826 - 08/16/16 06:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah he's a good dude
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cronicr



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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: cronicr]
#23547915 - 08/16/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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talk to captainfuture about indoor woodlovers...doesnt get any better i promise
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SHROOM HEAD

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: cronicr]
#23547923 - 08/16/16 07:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Word! And oh yeah, the captian kicks ass!
Tell us, Bunya, what have you been using as substrates? Did you make sure to hydrate the substrate before sterilizing? Did you steam sterilize or pressure cook? I sorta just assumed you pressure cooked. 
What about the lids, how did you do your lids?
I like detail man, give us full insight of everything you have done so far, I like to know every little detail.
The really cool thing about working with primary wood lovers, it that you can pretty much do what the fuck you like, and invent your own methods and shit, I sure know I have. 
People get so intimidated by wood loving species, when in actuality, they are like the easiest things to cultivate, just takes ALOT of time...
It's just so awesome, like oh, you can try this, modify that, play with this, fuck around with that, it's just that there is fuckall information out there to go about doing it.
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Hashed]
#23548973 - 08/17/16 04:19 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Wow. Thanks guys allot of information there, stoked. Sorry i have to be spoon fed,but thankyou it makes the learning curve steeper and many minds can take thinking out of the box. For the ego answer its not a pat on the back thing, i just want subs everwhere and easy and quick and yes i like to play with things( not myself). The mycelium fluffy vs rizomorphic is making sence to me now. It was very confusing as the stem buts picked were fluffy but the substrate was rizomorphic.cardbord was fluffy and spores on agar fluffy. The nutrient level of agar made good sence. And the tranfer from agar to wood is also interesting. Hashed thanks. Generally the jar substrates are pree moistened then preasure cooked 15psi 60min or more. The recent wood was moistened by poring boiling water over it in a drum a sealing. Then soaking a few days then drain and PC. I will be more specific in my updates. The LC jars i did the glucose seems to be the winner so far but havent tested on agar yet(hanging to try it on wood). From the reading ive done most suggested cold temps but finding 20-25c ish is the most active growth 15 or below has been very slow. I have allot to think about with what has been discussed and is spuring new experiments. I understand fruiting is the goal but at this stage i want to understand the growth. Thanks again Guys.
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SHROOM HEAD

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23549007 - 08/17/16 04:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nice one, you got this shit.
Bro, I was severely spoon-fed myself... Just helping you out as I was helped out myself, there is fuck all information on woodlover cult out there, I don't blame you.
After that spoon feeding session, a whole world of possibilities open up.
Who gives a flying fuck if the myc starts out fluffy as fuck, that is normal. It will become rhizomorphic as soon as the myc hits the wood and ages a little.
Oh yes, and myc in colder temps will grow slower, in warmer temps will grow faster.
Just let me know if anything is stumping you.
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liloldme
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: cronicr]
#23549043 - 08/17/16 05:11 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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cronicr said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/dosearch.php?uid=100171
oh wow yes he does have some great grows, thanks for sharing
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: liloldme]
#23555656 - 08/19/16 12:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Little update. The LC jars seem to be doing well Below glucose n water growing biggest but open.
 Honey and water more compact.

I once its fully established do i put it in the blender to break up the mycelium? Probably should have put a stirring stick or marble in there. If i do use the blender how long have i got to use it before contams usually set in? If i use it to inoc an out door mulch patch. Any suggestions on breaking it up for sterile jar inoc?
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23582204 - 08/27/16 12:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Little update and some conclusions so far. Grows great on Straw.
 Cardboard wood chip mix not to bad.
 Cardboard by itself slow.
 Papper kitty litter poor, will be tossing
. Corn interesting.

All agar section knocked 8/12. Any thoughts?
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Adden

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23582218 - 08/27/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nothing really to add with your projects, but I've found myself keen on soaking grains in wood water and also using it for agar. I'll be making some mean LC with it. My thinking is they'll get that first jump to chips quicker, and I hope they colonize faster for tiger drop into 75/25 grains to chips.
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Adden]
#23582349 - 08/27/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Cheers Adden. What sort of grains are you thinking would suit best? I might have to do the experiment with the tannen or soak water could be interesting. So far it seems to leap onto the soaked wood chips almost as good as the straw. Thanks for showing an intrest
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: cronicr]
#23607482 - 09/03/16 10:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23608159 - 09/03/16 02:08 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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The tinkering continues Ran out of jars, so inoculated a few bags with straw wood chip mix. https://files.shroomery.org/files/16-35/285042074-2016-09-03_07.01.43.jpg
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Edited by Bunya (09/03/16 02:10 PM)
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23610119 - 09/04/16 03:33 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bunya said: Little update and some conclusions so far. Grows great on Straw.
 Cardboard wood chip mix not to bad.
 Cardboard by itself slow.
 Papper kitty litter poor, will be tossing-- Any thoughts?
Dude nice Work! (I like your Trail & Error approach) (I am trialling multiple mixes & seeing what it prefers to Grow to) I have been wondering about some kitty litters, but most/ all are soaked in Chems.. Even if they are Paper/ Wood based.. (Alike vermiculite)
As for cardboard... I find Its great for Spawning to, but not for thick growth.. (they have been Flipped over fyi)
 & Also Awesome for regulating Mini-Micro-Climates with great RH% for undergrowth. But only H2o + a scarce about of Nutrients are present. (But still Good/Great for one stage of development) Nutrients can be carried in *impure air* Via high RH%.. Meaning H2o vapours, Can carry some to well.. Everywhere...
On the Subject on what Woodlovers eat / need... (IME) It's not quite just the "wood"... (It's the pre-made Nutrients)
**(IMO/E) H2o, Almost is its only needed "food"** Pasteurised / Heavy Wood Decay is just Absolutely filled with the Base Nutrients needed.(All ready to go) To which Myc/Spores can Synthesize Structured Compounds of molecules for the best way possible for its DNA to Evolve/Grow. (Given the right Climates & meal's) 
In saying that.. I wish I to find out which Nutrients they prefer. Mainly Out of Pine and eucalyptus tree Species of Rot / Decay. *"Base Nutrients"* / What mix of Nitrogen based Nutrients + H2o + o2 = Best for their growth.. (H²O + O² = RH% Variations) ------------------------- Harvesting the last of Extension grown tubs & bringing them inside to regenerate cakes + Adding Extra Decay to be consumed. (For Thickening) As I'm finding they can be VERY Quick with growth or very Slow. (Spreaders VS Patches)
VS Growth Differences...?Why..? (Perfect Consistent Ideal conditions for reproduction Advantages..? E.G: Spreaders) The tall ones are less than 30 hrs old.. (Spreaders) & the Thick ones are well over a week old......Hmm 

(Before replying) Here is on for you guys to think about... What came First... The wood.. or the Mushroom...?
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23613765 - 09/05/16 05:05 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bunya said: The tinkering continues Ran out of jars, so inoculated a few bags with straw wood chip mix. https://files.shroomery.org/files/16-35/285042074-2016-09-03_07.01.43.jpg
(Realised what the red gel was...) its amazing what you can learn in 24 hrs if you look in the right places...
Well i think We're on to something, Dont you?
-------------------- Psilocybe Cubensis. Panaeolus Cyanescens. Psilocybe Subaeruginosa. Dimethyltryptamine.
Edited by Fractaliopsybe (09/05/16 06:08 AM)
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23634736 - 09/11/16 04:50 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Put some LC on wbs. Its crazy like rocket fuel so fast. Wow.
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Fractaliopsybe
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23638175 - 09/12/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Currently doing Fridge and gel tek's, Fruited three pins InDoor!!!!
Plus got some madd! Myc growth that's growing in under 20 C.
Random fruit in Myc Sauce tub.. Random fruit in tub I just took outside again after mini harvest, Its 1in under at the side trying to make it way up. & Another one popped out of my regen cakes from the bucket TEK, so I put in my main indoor fruiting gel pack tub.. Looks Healthy!! Pix tomorrow Teaser =
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Bunya


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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Fractaliopsybe]
#23638476 - 09/12/16 01:13 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Looking forward to your pics Fractaliopsybe Check these out.
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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23643528 - 09/14/16 12:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bunya said: Looking forward to your pics Fractaliopsybe Check these out.

Wholey Maceral! Hmm.. Hah yeah mine are no where near that caked. What are jar mixes there? Straw, CB + woodchips and just CB? or just two?
 My Suggestion.. If you haven't already.. Do a fridge test + Styrofoam box/ tub & Gel packs. 
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Adden

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Re: Psilocybe subaeruginosa cultivation questions [Re: Bunya]
#23643547 - 09/14/16 12:26 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I've been running wood water agar lately and allenii/subs/azure like it better than regular agar. I'd say it's about twice as fast as regular PDA, and toned down 66% on the karo. If they're contaminated they just die, they don't really play around, so make sure they're clean. Allenii loves it more than everyone else.
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