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WTF is going on with this grow!? * 1
    #23534880 - 08/12/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe I'm just being picky and there's no reason to be concerned, BUT:

I cloned live tissue from a very promising cluster to agar and then to grain. I spawned the grains to CVG on July 28th and the wait began. So finally the pins came, but not only have grown very slow, but the Pinset is minimal compared to all the MS grows that I have done. Maybe I imagined something different going in to this, but I had thought that I would have a nice even Pinset, maybe even leading to a nice canopy once matured. Could anybody provide some insight, if there even is insight to be given? Everything is probably fine and I just hoped for too much?



Also, on a side note: I just switched from rye to WBS. I was sick of doing my prep in the sink/tub and used my garden hose outside to do my rinses/soaks. Can anybody see an issue with this. Granted, it is the same water that comes from my faucet, but maybe the metals or rubber within the hose would make it go south? This is my first time tryin out the hose idea, and the first time doing WBS.

Thanks in advance, you guys are great.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23534936 - 08/12/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:threadmonitor:


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23534990 - 08/12/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Subbed..


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23535443 - 08/12/16 04:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

no idea whats going on but awesome pins u got there. :popcorn:


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23535666 - 08/12/16 06:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you think so? my last 4 grows have been pins covering the entire sub (you know what I mean) and these are far in between. Which I thought was weird because these were cloned.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23535672 - 08/12/16 06:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This is why we always  say everything needs testing n never get your hopes up till your sure  n always have multiple samples to test


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: cronicr]
    #23535674 - 08/12/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:takingnotes:

Well that explains my grow then. On the bright side, it's kicking ass in my outdoor patch.


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23535702 - 08/12/16 06:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I understand that logic Cronicr, but I at least thought it would be better than my MS grows.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23535748 - 08/12/16 06:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Not always...in fact more often then not it isn't.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: cronicr]
    #23535787 - 08/12/16 06:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Why don't they tell us these things!! lol. I would've kept my MS agar going. I thought the cloned makes even genetics across the board, and you clone from the best so you get the best.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23535814 - 08/12/16 07:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You just got one possible isolate from the isolate there are many more there I assure you look up monoculture


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: spore-ty]
    #23535825 - 08/12/16 07:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

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Why don't they tell us these things!! lol. I would've kept my MS agar going. I thought the cloned makes even genetics across the board, and you clone from the best so you get the best.


we have always said this lol


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23535866 - 08/12/16 07:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

just_curious said:
Why don't they tell us these things!! lol. I would've kept my MS agar going. I thought the cloned makes even genetics across the board, and you clone from the best so you get the best.




:hugitout:

On the bright side, LOOK! Mushrooms! :crazy2:


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How to get started in bulk:
Presto 23-Quart Pressure Cooker
BOD's Simple as FUCK Still Air Box
PastyWhyte's Easy Agar Tek
Munchauzen's Cultivation Video Series
How EvilMushroom666 Prepares His Grains (I use jars with Synthetic Filter Discs)
What is G2G? (Grain-to-Grain)
Damion5050's Coir Tek (I use 5.5 - 6 quarts of water instead of 4. Also ignore step 13 and ignore the monotub completely. The only purpose of this tek is to show you how to make a simple substrate. I also add gypsum to it but not necessary)
Spitball's Monotub Tek (A liner isn't necessary but is useful)
Use 6500k lights throughout the whole process. When you wake up, turn the light on. When you go to sleep turn the light off. It's as simple as that.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: Kush_Zombie]
    #23537175 - 08/13/16 07:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Any opinions on the garden hose rinse and soak?


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23537196 - 08/13/16 07:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Its fine.  I use hose for everything except agar.

In a small kitchen, this hobby can get messy quickfly.  The more u can do outside the better. 

Grains and grain juice are the worst to have in the fertile crevices of ur kitchen...I get ants pretty quick if I'm not careful.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: blindingleaf] * 1
    #23538096 - 08/13/16 02:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Here's an update for those of you that subbed and are monitoring. I'd say it's going pretty good I guess. I probably jumped the gun on the whole freak out.



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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23538351 - 08/13/16 04:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice.

Maybe it will be a few fruits, but Potent ones! :shrug: Quality over Quantity.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #23538442 - 08/13/16 04:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Lol, I'm tryin to get my second lb. I got my first at the beginning of July and I started the process in early May. Took longer than some people on here, but over all, not bad for a complete newb. I skipped PF and went straight to bulk. It took some experimenting at first with agar, everybody told me to go from print instead of MS but I had no luck. Finally I got a clean plate, transferred to more, and then everything went great. 1lb out of 4 monos (only one of those had more than one flush) and 2 minis. I thought if I cloned, the quantity and quality would have improved. Oh well I suppose. My next goal is to get all fruits to mature at the same time and have a nice canopy :smile:


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: just_curious]
    #23538495 - 08/13/16 05:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you have bad luck with spore prints, get some sterile swabs and make a lighter PDA mix. I go low on dextrose if it's a super dirty print or its like 80 in the house. I got a little lighter on agar if I keep having germination issues. I've had old or wild spores take ten or more days... so don't let that discourage you. It's summer too so expect flukes if it's hot where you're at. And plus working off a zigzag or + gives you options and all it takes is just touching the swab to the print. Made my work so much easier. Good job on straight to bulk.


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Re: WTF is going on with this grow!? [Re: Adden]
    #23538551 - 08/13/16 05:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the advice. I'll give that a shot.


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