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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #23534826 - 08/12/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, he's right about your DNA and that the condition is classified as a mental disorder but i do agree that you should do what makes you happy.

I don't think his stating facts makes him inhumane though.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534827 - 08/12/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You think the media obsession has anything to do with the sudden influx of transgenders?




The media is one of the best acceptance engines there are.
Blacks used to be edgy in film.
Now they are everywhere
And normalized.
Same thing happened to gays
We are seeing the beginnings of
Hollywood Wide trans acceptance.
So eventually I'll be someone's
"token trans friend"
then after that phase passes
no one will truly give a fuck.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534830 - 08/12/16 01:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Apostle said:
Well, he's right about your DNA and that the condition is classified as a mental disorder but i do agree that you should do what makes you happy.

I don't think his stating facts makes him inhumane though.




My DNA also says I shouldn't trust my DNA.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #23534857 - 08/12/16 01:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think people already don't give a fuck, they just don't really want to change their own behavior to accommodate trans folks.


I mean if people were coming out as heterosexual and asking for specific pronouns and new bathroom laws it'd be just as ridiculous.

And i'm not saying that i have anything against you coming out but i do feel that the trans community has been pretty annoying lately in the same way that BLM has.

It's like the oppression Olympics out there.

Anyway, i'm happy for you and think it's a wise choice to keep your "junk". Chicks with dicks ftw.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apollyphelion] * 1
    #23534859 - 08/12/16 01:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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My DNA also says I shouldn't trust my DNA.



That's quite the conundrum.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534870 - 08/12/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm kinda the same
I kinda cringe when I hear someone wants a new pronoun.
I think She He and They are just fine for expressing with the gradient.

to quote redgreenvines
I think of maleness and femaleness as a gradient
and there should be permissiveness to move within that gradient

I require no new pronouns, as I am a SHE
I'm just as much woman as a hot girl that had her junk blazed beyond use in a house fire.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534874 - 08/12/16 01:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Apostle said:
Quote:

Apollyphelion said:


My DNA also says I shouldn't trust my DNA.



That's quite the conundrum.




It's why transissues are a social attitude
and not a DNA attitude, whatever that is.
DNA discussion is completely irrelvant to me
as we do not live in the age of GATTACA quite yet.
I just want the same respect you'd give your mother
or any woman, DUH.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #23534881 - 08/12/16 01:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Did you ever think you were just a submissive gay guy?

i'm curious as to what causes the distinction that pushes someone to transition.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle] * 1
    #23534890 - 08/12/16 01:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

its so fun to watch people attempt to discuss identity politics. its like watching a trainwreck. read a fucking book or something. christ


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Vriska Serket]
    #23534894 - 08/12/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Discussing them and watching you get riled up on cue is alot more fun than reading a book.

The two trans posters i've talked with don't seem to have an issue with it.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534897 - 08/12/16 01:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Apostle said:
Did you ever think you were just a submissive gay guy?

i'm curious as to what causes the distinction that pushes someone to transition.



Apparently it being "in" and financial motivation because of it being in helped push her.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534902 - 08/12/16 01:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Imagine this:

Figuring this out is like a freefall
and ugly one

So imagine me plumetting from high above
and I look down and see a target that says
"transgirl"
So over the past 16 years
my Life has either been about
providing wind resistance to avoid hitting the target
or seeing if I could hit another target
(such as flamboyant gay guy, crossdresser, demi-girl)
I was gonna hit that target no matter what
Now that I have nose dived straight to where I figured I would
I feel like a fucking GODESSS.

Also gay guys like MEN
they do not like ANY type of women, no matter the genetilia
Gay guys are not atttracted to the expectations of being female.
Bi men are though.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: California]
    #23534913 - 08/12/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

California said:
Quote:

Apostle said:
Did you ever think you were just a submissive gay guy?

i'm curious as to what causes the distinction that pushes someone to transition.



Apparently it being "in" and financial motivation because of it being in helped push her.




Well it being "in" gave me a little confidence
Thats the whole point of making something "in"
is to bring out acceptance.
The financial aspect is more damage control, I have to reconcile a new image and see how I could capitalize on it. You do the same thing with your image.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534922 - 08/12/16 01:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i wasnt just talking to you fella but if the shoe fits go ahead and wear it


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Vriska Serket]
    #23534933 - 08/12/16 01:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The shoe?
It's a glass slipper
and I'm marrying the prince, nigga.
Movin to bel-air.
The shoe fitting is kinda redundant
I AM the shoe.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: California]
    #23534934 - 08/12/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

really? i had a feeling the recent events online and in the media played a role.

@apolly  thats an interesting explination. did you have that as a vision or is that just how you chose to convey what you feel?

@viskfella i don't wear shoes and made no mention of who you were talking to (though you did respond to me)


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534950 - 08/12/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Apostle said:
really? i had a feeling the recent events online and in the media played a role.

@apolly  thats an interesting explination. did you have that as a vision or is that just how you chose to convey what you feel?

@viskfella i don't wear shoes and made no mention of who you were talking to (though you did respond to me)




I can explain it many different ways. Everything I convey is a vision, so I don't know.

Here's another one: my whole life felt like Jane Goodall living with Silverbacks. Luckily they accepted me as their own. Not as metaphorically rich as the traget example, but damn accurate. I relate to gay men a TINY bit better than straight. Gay men are still gorillas. I'm still Jane. Me coming out is reporting my findings as "living as a male".


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apostle]
    #23534952 - 08/12/16 01:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

its because this dumbass forum has that stupid reply i feature I fucked up like 75% of my posts like this


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apollyphelion]
    #23534956 - 08/12/16 01:59 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I like it!

Jane Goodall is an amazing woman too.


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Re: I'm transgender folks! [Re: Apollyphelion] * 1
    #23534958 - 08/12/16 02:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Apollyphelion said:
Figuring this out is like a freefall
and ugly one

So imagine me plumetting from high above
and I look down and see a target that says
"transgirl"
So over the past 16 years
my Life has either been about
providing wind resistance to avoid hitting the target
or seeing if I could hit another target
(such as flamboyant gay guy, crossdresser, demi-girl)
I was gonna hit that target no matter what
Now that I have nose dived straight to where I figured I would
I feel like a fucking GODESSS.



Nice analogy. I wonder if the same bill fits for 'racist', 'homophobic' and 'transphobic' or if they're simply providing wind resistance for similar targets.
Congratulations on your self-acceptance, im sure with your obvious wit and confidence you'll smash the ball out of the park. Or some other sort of cheering/encouraging analogy. Whatever. Who cares. Congrats.


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