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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Oggy]
    #23608567 - 09/03/16 04:19 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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I've rooted cuttings at a similar size. It does take longer, it seems.



shall I remove the parts that get brown/rot or leave it alone? I see it has a few brown mushy spots....


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23608617 - 09/03/16 04:33 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Im still learning with mine but ive noticed if i leave too near the window and sun hits her she starts to droop, so i keep her away from direct sun, water well when drying and shes really perked up again fir me so im leaving her where she is :lol: dunno if that helps :shrug:

Im so scared to kill her, i need her to grow so i can get cuttings lol!


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Spellbound]
    #23609564 - 09/03/16 09:55 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

well, the only reason I said to chop it up into clones is because it's been more than 2 weeks and there is no improvement , it actually looks worse... so instead of losing the whole plant I'm thinking he can get a few clones started. But you're absolutely right about the sun and the window. People will tell you that they grow salvia without problems in the sun, that might be true but those plants have been climatized and most likely not behind a glass window... IME a few hours of direct sunlight ( 3-4) is more than enough for this plant, and that should be in the morning or before sunset not in mid day....


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23609587 - 09/03/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I agree with amonra and not to mention he hasn't been watering the thing :facepalm:

That should have been the first question we all dropped the ball here I just hope OP gets a happy ending...


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: impaired420]
    #23610586 - 09/04/16 08:36 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

it also depends where you live as well because not all sunny days were created equal... a sunny day in Texas is not the same with a sunny day in Montana; last couple of days We had some heat wave here, even my Datura  which is supposedly drought resistant got droopy  a little ...


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23621680 - 09/07/16 11:30 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The cuttings seem to be doing okay, I have 3 in soil and 1 in water. I used rooting hormone with the soil ones, how long until I can say that they safely made it? Huge thanks for the help guys, they're on a stable in the middle of my room where no direct sunlight hits it.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23621723 - 09/07/16 11:44 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

They should have roots in about 2 weeks. After about 10 days I gradually start to remove the humidity dome until they get used to not having one again. In about 15-20 days tops you should have a well established clone. The one you have in water make sure to change the water daily... You will notice when it finally made it because it will show signs of new growth...Good luck and yes no more direct sunlight except maybe 1-2 hours in the am or before sunset. Good luck! keep us updated...


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23621777 - 09/07/16 12:03 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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They should have roots in about 2 weeks. After about 10 days I gradually start to remove the humidity dome until they get used to not having one again. In about 15-20 days tops you should have a well established clone. The one you have in water make sure to change the water daily... You will notice when it finally made it because it will show signs of new growth...Good luck and yes no more direct sunlight except maybe 1-2 hours in the am or before sunset. Good luck! keep us updated...



Forgot to add the dome -.- I'll add one right now. Thanks, will update in a week or if one dies.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23621805 - 09/07/16 12:12 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The dome can be anything a glass upside-down, a plastic bag, etc. make sure you remove it everyday to let some fresh air in and stuff. If you are using a plastic bag after a week you can start poking some holes in it every day that way it will get more and more fresh air constantly. Although you might make it without a dome as well, IME it helps a lot I always use it, except if I root them straight in water but rarely I do that I usually go for "straight in the ground" method.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23622009 - 09/07/16 01:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The dome can be anything a glass upside-down, a plastic bag, etc. make sure you remove it everyday to let some fresh air in and stuff. If you are using a plastic bag after a week you can start poking some holes in it every day that way it will get more and more fresh air constantly. Although you might make it without a dome as well, IME it helps a lot I always use it, except if I root them straight in water but rarely I do that I usually go for "straight in the ground" method.



Alright, I got some bags over them. Now just the waiting game.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23622042 - 09/07/16 01:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

make sure you water them clones too :wink:  you don't need the soil soaking wet but you do need to be humid . Good luck buddy. I think you will have some new clones soon especially that you used rooting hormone, yours might root even sooner and better. I never used it. Years ago I used to use honey as substitute for rooting hormone but for at least 2 years I just stick them in the soil and cover them... I would say I have 99.9% success rate, yeah rarely I lose a clone, and usually it's because I give up on it not because it wouldn't make it.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23631957 - 09/10/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Even less than a quarter inch or about 0.5 cm long roots showing should be enough of a sign that they can be planted, but water seems like the ideal way to go because the water triggering is so strong.
What isn't ideal in my experience is waiting very long when it starts to root in water, you *can* do it but it can be exhausting for the plant and the smaller it is the less it may tolerate it in the end, needing the phosphates etc.

Rooting hormone is probably not that useful since you don't need any more of a rooting trigger with the water method.

I personally never use a dome anymore, but it may depend on your climate whether your salvia's prefer it, and also on whether they are already used to your ambient atmosphere and whether you grow indoors or outdoors or if you move a plant from inside to outside etc.

The smaller cuttings taking longer is probably from having less of a reserve... pay attention to making the cut immediately under a node, because at around that node it should start rooting.
If you have a small cutting and the note is 'incorrectly' in the middle of its height, you will need to plant it that much deeper and possibly the part below it may just rot off from having no closed off circulation nor serving a function.
Usually they can handle a bit of a stump rotting away but if about half of your cutting is expected to die off that doesn't seem so great.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Solipsis]
    #23661829 - 09/20/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

All of the cuttings unforntunatly didn't make it, they grow some spider like stuff and it just killed them :frown: However the main plant starting growing a new branch so I will leave it in it's spot and let it do it's thing and just water it as I water my weed plants.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23662069 - 09/20/16 03:01 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Oh my goodness... What has happened to your plant.... :frown:

I'm really sorry man... This shouldn't have happened... Are you sure you don't have pests slowly killing your plants?

You say spider web like things? You should look for spider mites... God forbid they get into your weed plants....


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: impaired420]
    #23662122 - 09/20/16 03:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

ups yeah... this shouldn;t have happened... i never had five clones die on me... and that spider stuff idk maybe you did had some bugs or something ... :frown: sorry man...


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23663567 - 09/20/16 10:58 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Oh my goodness... What has happened to your plant.... :frown:

I'm really sorry man... This shouldn't have happened... Are you sure you don't have pests slowly killing your plants?

You say spider web like things? You should look for spider mites... God forbid they get into your weed plants....



It was like spider web mold, and yes the weed plants did have some spider mites but I sprayed them today. They are a pain in the ass I have experience.
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ups yeah... this shouldn;t have happened... i never had five clones die on me... and that spider stuff idk maybe you did had some bugs or something ... :frown: sorry man...



It's like some webby mold, I think from too much humidity :frown:


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23667600 - 09/22/16 10:15 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Any luck?

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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: ThUmB pRiNt]
    #23667813 - 09/22/16 11:41 AM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Luckily I've never had spider mites... Hopefully you get them in check before they can damage anything else.

Maybe it was mould??

Did you happen to take ant pictures of the webby stuff?


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: impaired420]
    #23667877 - 09/22/16 12:02 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

something was wrong maybe with the whole plant... I don't know but I never had five clones die. Actually rarely I have one that dies and usually that is because I give up. Remember that sick clone I had Impaired? Will post some updates, you should see that little guy now!!! Also another big plant I had end up breaking the main stem. I left literally a stump with one node and now it shows new growth (small but is there).  So I really don't know what happened but from 4-5 clones you should end up with at least one plant... but then again if the whole plant was cooked for days behind that glass window... :shrug:


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23671019 - 09/23/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Any luck?

Updates?

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New growth on the mother


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Luckily I've never had spider mites... Hopefully you get them in check before they can damage anything else.

Maybe it was mould??

Did you happen to take ant pictures of the webby stuff?




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something was wrong maybe with the whole plant... I don't know but I never had five clones die. Actually rarely I have one that dies and usually that is because I give up. Remember that sick clone I had Impaired? Will post some updates, you should see that little guy now!!! Also another big plant I had end up breaking the main stem. I left literally a stump with one node and now it shows new growth (small but is there).  So I really don't know what happened but from 4-5 clones you should end up with at least one plant... but then again if the whole plant was cooked for days behind that glass window... :shrug:



It was being cooked for a while :frown: At least there is still hope for the main plant to make it.


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