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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23544441 - 08/15/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It will let you know when it needs water it will start to droop. also you can check like you said and if it seems dry you should water. In time it can handle 96, I had plants outside for years and it gets in the 90s granted they are in complete shade maybe just an hour of sunlight in the morning. It will curl and whatnot but it can definitely handle it once climatized. Yes move it on the ground where it doesn't get more than one hour of direct sunlight and that hour should be in the morning or before sunset definitely not in mid-day. :smile: good luck, I'm sure it will bounce back with proper care. I wouldn't worry too much about being root bound. In the shape it is in I would avoid moving it to another pot now, I would let it bounce back first then worry about that.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23544506 - 08/15/16 04:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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It will let you know when it needs water it will start to droop. also you can check like you said and if it seems dry you should water. In time it can handle 96, I had plants outside for years and it gets in the 90s granted they are in complete shade maybe just an hour of sunlight in the morning. It will curl and whatnot but it can definitely handle it once climatized. Yes move it on the ground where it doesn't get more than one hour of direct sunlight and that hour should be in the morning or before sunset definitely not in mid-day. :smile: good luck, I'm sure it will bounce back with proper care. I wouldn't worry too much about being root bound. In the shape it is in I would avoid moving it to another pot now, I would let it bounce back first then worry about that.



Alright, thank you .I feel more confident on achieving a nice sally plant.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince] * 1
    #23544602 - 08/15/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you're welcome. feel free to update us on the condition of your plant and/or if you have any questions. I've been growing it for years and I find it to be a very resilient plant and quite easy to grow if certain conditions are met and most important factors are: no direct sunlight, humidity and good soil. get this 3 right and you will have so much Salvia you won;t know what to do with... The plant can learn to thrive even in low humidity, you can also compensate low levels of humidity by spraying/misting once a day. The plant will be so much happier :smile:


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23544716 - 08/15/16 05:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I agree with everything amora said. Great diagnostic work guys.
OP she'll be looking really nice in no time now.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: impaired420]
    #23546808 - 08/16/16 12:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I disagree about Salvia Divinorum not liking sunlight. I have a lot outdoors that receive direct sunlight for most of the day. The only time I see purple leaves from direct sunlight is when they are root bound. I certainly wouldn't expose them immediately to direct sunlight if they have spent most of their lives without it, though. Humidity and temperature changes cause these plants to drop leaves. I don't know what causes the edges to turn brown. If I had to guess I would say over watering or under watering causes the leaves to turn brown along the edges.

An easy way to see if a plant is root bound is by sticking a tomato stake into the pot about an inch or two from the edge. If you can't push the stake in easily or if you can feel or hear roots rip then it's root bound.

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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Oggy]
    #23546963 - 08/16/16 01:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice salvia oggy. I don't think it's an issue of direct light it's the issue of the glass magnifying the light as it passes through and also the heat rise from the sun cooking the window then cooling off as sun sets.

I have yet to set a Sally with at least one leaf with brown edges, I'm beginning to think it's unavoidable.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: impaired420]
    #23547137 - 08/16/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

sure it can adapt to grow in direct sunlight, I said it before I find salvia to be very resilient. That being said I still think it grows better with less direct sunlight. The ones that I have inside grow much bigger leaves and they don't curl as much and seem to be happier overall. Nice looking plants you have, yours seem to thrive. Nice job! The problem OP has it's the glass window, it will literally cook the salvia for 5 hours a day. It might be able to adapt to sunlight but not behind a glass window... just my two cents.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23547845 - 08/16/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That is convection and shouldn't be an issue for the plants if the air is circulated. I never thought about air flow being the issue. It is quite possible that would be the issue the OP is dealing with.

OP do you have a fan or anything blowing over your plants?


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Oggy]
    #23548469 - 08/16/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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That is convection and shouldn't be an issue for the plants if the air is circulated. I never thought about air flow being the issue. It is quite possible that would be the issue the OP is dealing with.

OP do you have a fan or anything blowing over your plants?



I do have a fan that I leave on when I'm in my room, should I run it 24/7 on low?

Also those are some beautiful plants Oggy

The plant has been moved to the ground in my room, I'll post back with an update once I see a difference.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23559558 - 08/20/16 10:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

so, how's your plant doing buddy?


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23607949 - 09/03/16 12:43 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

So it's been a little more then half a month and she's not looking any better :frown: Here's a picture of her. I moved her to the floor because I put a thermometer by the window and it hits 107 some times however things are still going downhill. Any advice?



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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23607974 - 09/03/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

The soil looks too dry. Hope it gets better. No ac inside?


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: ferrel_human] * 1
    #23608008 - 09/03/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

Yes the soil looks all dried up...I see you still have it in the sun tho :shrug: oh well :shrug:
At this point I would take cuttings ASAP. I would chop it all up into cuttings as many as I can get put them all in shade with humidity dome over and cross my fingers a few make it. That's what I would do. I don't think this plant will make it if left alone like this.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: ferrel_human]
    #23608147 - 09/03/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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The soil looks too dry. Hope it gets better. No ac inside?



Darn, I thought I wasn't suppose to water her until her leaves started to go down and she hasn't. I'll water her now.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23608151 - 09/03/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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Yes the soil looks all dried up...I see you still have it in the sun tho :shrug: oh well :shrug:
At this point I would take cuttings ASAP. I would chop it all up into cuttings as many as I can get put them all in shade with humidity dome over and cross my fingers a few make it. That's what I would do. I don't think this plant will make it if left alone like this.



Should I put her in my grow box? What is the best part to take a cutting? Most branches have barely any leaves.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince] * 1
    #23608191 - 09/03/16 02:23 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I see... have at least two nodes on each cutting; one in the ground and one above; always cut below the node you are going to place in the ground. Use something very sharp and clean. I would try to take the cuttings in such way to keep whatever leaves it has. I would place it straight in the ground with a dome over it; you can try in water too .If you have root hormone i would use it, or you can try dip the node that goes in the ground in honey which it helps rooting. And I would leave the mother with just a stump with a node or two, who knows maybe it grows back. I see at least 3-4 cuttings that could be made...
Most importantly get it out of direct sunlight especially behind a window... or put a sunscreen on the window...one that filters the direct sunlight a bit.... :shrug:


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23608296 - 09/03/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

as an example this is the smallest cutting I ever attempted to clone. It only has one node. It was a left over and i just put it in that shot glass. It's been almost a week. No roots yet but is still alive ... It might make it...
Just replace with clean water everyday.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23608400 - 09/03/16 03:20 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

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as an example this is the smallest cutting I ever attempted to clone. It only has one node. It was a left over and i just put it in that shot glass. It's been almost a week. No roots yet but is still alive ... It might make it...
Just replace with clean water everyday.



Alright, I'll give it a go tonight with rooting hormone. What has a higher success rate for cuttings? Straight to soil or the water method?


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: amonra]
    #23608402 - 09/03/16 03:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I've rooted cuttings at a similar size. It does take longer, it seems.


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Re: Sally Plant keeps dropping leaves too much sun? [Re: Mrvince]
    #23608557 - 09/03/16 04:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago)

I usually put them straight in soil with a dome over; if you use rooting hormone you should have no problem getting a new clone but even without rarely I get a clone that doesn't make it.
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as an example this is the smallest cutting I ever attempted to clone. It only has one node. It was a left over and i just put it in that shot glass. It's been almost a week. No roots yet but is still alive ... It might make it...
Just replace with clean water everyday.



Alright, I'll give it a go tonight with rooting hormone. What has a higher success rate for cuttings? Straight to soil or the water method?



I usually put them straight in soil with a dome over; if you use rooting hormone you should have no problem getting a new clone but even without rarely I get a clone that doesn't make it; now given the condition of your plant idk but you should be able to get a few promising clones out of it... why not do half in the ground and half in water and see what works best for you... good luck !


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