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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23577243 - 08/25/16 06:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23577255 - 08/25/16 06:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You can also not post in them/bumping them.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: ModestMouse]
    #23577265 - 08/25/16 06:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I want this thread to die too. I could make it happen pretty easily. But I have to consider if there's anyone that might actually be enjoying it. Hold on....
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Svetaketu]
    #23577882 - 08/25/16 10:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Svetaketu said:
It seems like your metaconcept is just the common "all is one one is all" perspective that gets talked about commonly on this website. If thats the case, aren't you over complicating it a little?

Also, didn't "KRISHNAMURTI" come to the metaconcept after NEVER having taken a psychedelic? why is it necessary for us to? couldn't we just read the book and find it ourselves? Furthermore why do you specify that it must be CACTUS? Would mushrooms not make you come to the same conclusion? or even LSD?

How do you expect the winner to be discerned universally when most people in the thread aren't taking it seriously and think your a troll? Whats to stop them from banding together right now and declaring me (or anyone else) the winner?




these are important questions and we need to look at them deeply.  the metaconcept was seemingly understood by no one.  definitely not anyone promoting this all is 'one, one is all' ideal.  the metaconcept is considerably more complex than that oversimplification.  we will get to it.  but not if we are unable to meet earnestly in discussion.     

mushrooms, lds, whatever you're preference will allow entry into the contest.  cactus or equivalent.  you decide what is equivalent.  to the speaker, cactus keeps the mind clear enough to consider and retain complex concepts where mushrooms and lsd... not so much.  but whatever you prefer.  just do it legally, of course! 

now what is stopping you from declaring yourself or anyone else the winner is that the speaker has also one vote.  and so therefore, we must reach a decision in communion.  we must discern collectively, and there is a very important reason for that.  part of the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE is to highlight the nature of conflict, both internally and externally.  when we reach an external conflict, that is, two or more persons making contradictory statements, it is an indication that one or all parties are viewing the problem with a skewed version of reality.  now, what would be the result if, collectively, we realized that when there is conflicting opinion, it does not indicate a time for war, conflict, a time to shun the speaker, but rather the presence of subjectively skewed understanding?  think about why this is so vitally important before you approximate the speaker as some imbecile.  and then think about how this concept applies to internal conflict.     

KRISHNAMURTI had a lot of important things to say, but he also royally fucked up with regard to psychedelics.  you see he had a certain opinion of psychedelics, but never used them ever.  we see that preconception destroys reality.  so this is a major contradiction.  and so we have revealed another layer to this challenge.  so do you see why this is so important or should we go into it? 

now the speaker will be again completing the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE in just under 1 week.  legally of course!  the speaker will then make his entry into the contest.  it is then up to you sirs to determine if what the speaker has to say is of any value.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23577891 - 08/25/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@goldcaphunter,

now the real question sir is about your compulsion.  why do you feel so compelled to assert?  if it was just that you saw no value in what the speaker is saying you would be unfazed by this thread.  you would be indifferent, no?  but instead you assert pictures of waving cocks and such.  sir what is the function of assertion with regard to the self image?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23577908 - 08/25/16 10:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sounds like a cult. Bye.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: mctaveesh]
    #23577912 - 08/25/16 10:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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mctaveesh said:
Please. Let this thread die.




you have the option of not participating of course.  no one is forcing you to contribute.  nothing is compelling you to add to the thread other than your own compulsions.  the speaker is asking you to find it in your mind and heart to look earnestly at the root of your compulsions.  and certainly some will opt out.  for some, looking at the self is too painful.  to real. 

and that is what we are seeing all around us.  people opting out of earnest discussion about the nature of themselves and instead living lives of compulsive aggression.  that is why we have a world filled with conflict, wars, opinion, belief, preconception and never love.  love is why the speaker is here.  love is the root of THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23577941 - 08/25/16 10:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@peyotezen,

that's it sir!  you see!  one doesn't have to assert their contradictory position!  for the assertion of a contradictory belief is the beginning of conflict.  the muslim vs the christian.  the left and the right.  the feminist and the misogynist.  the KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE GUY and the non krishnamurti challenge guy.  to represent any one side is to misunderstand reality.  reality is instead the understanding that there are multiple sides, multiple opinions, and that the concurrent assertion of both sides leads to conflict.  understanding is surely discerning the integral nature of the whole and not the quixotic representation of one side. 

so please sir, fellow peyotero, before you leave, answer just one question for the speaker: what is the difference between belief and discernment?  mechanically?  fundamentally?  what divides a belief from a discernment?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23577958 - 08/25/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So what is it that you want, exactly?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #23577979 - 08/25/16 10:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Jokeshopbeard said:
I want this thread to die too. I could make it happen pretty easily. But I have to consider if there's anyone that might actually be enjoying it. Hold on....




@jokeshopbeard,

belief leads to want.  isn't that so sir?  that is, your belief that this thread is of no value to you, leads you to adopt a certain want.  you want to see your belief validated.  validation means confirmation that you were correct in your stance and therefore your self image is maintained, strengthened.  that is why people fight so vigorously against the dissolution of their beliefs isn't it sir?

now the speaker has attacked no one.  judged no one.  has not said a hurtful thing to anyone on this forum.  and will not do so under any circumstances.  the speaker has asked only that we meet earnestly to discuss what is real with regard to the mechanical nature of the self.  oh, and has also offered up approx. $5,000 to the winner.  all you have to do is drop your assertions and aggressive defences of the self image and discuss openly and earnestly.  and you want to what, ban the speaker?  end this thread?  are you so afraid?  come on sir?!  let's be realistic!  perhaps you should run for president or be a police officer but not a member of a psychedelic forum.  do you know not what is love?  what is openness?  what is fairness?  what is communion?  perhaps you too could benefit from a KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE.  now sir what divides a belief from a discernment?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Great Scott]
    #23578008 - 08/25/16 10:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@peyotezen,

fundamentally, to have a discussion and give away some money on the forum.  this is no cult.  the speaker is no leader.  no teacher.  instead we will together find out what is real by moving along a plane of logic as equals.  if we reach duality, we pause in realization of the significance of that duality.  that is, duality is the intimation of illusion, and not the reason for censorship or conflict. 

now if we may proceed, belief and discernment?  what divides them sir?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23578103 - 08/25/16 11:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'd rather see the thread die and enjoy it's death


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23578120 - 08/25/16 11:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure I understand your question. Proper discernment plays an important role in forming a solid belief, yes.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Great Scott]
    #23578862 - 08/26/16 08:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@mcteevash,

Now what is it that brings about enjoyment sir?  Fundamentally?  Do you know?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23578909 - 08/26/16 08:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@peyotezen, 

To discern is to find what is real, and to believe is to cling to authority. Discernment does not lead to belief surely. Discernment disposes of belief in that when one discerns the true nature of belief, that it limits perception, belief loses its power which is compulsion. 

One has a belief, and so they meet reality through this screen. I believe in Allah, so when I meet the Christian I see him in a certain light. I believe the black man is a crook, so I meet him with a certain apprehension.  Likewise, I approximate as the left so then meet the right with distaste.  Now these are obvious external examples. There are also much more subtle ones. And there are internal examples.  If I believe myself to be better or worse than another by some standard, this mechanically skews my perception. Skews interaction. Skews thought, action and perception which are one. Do you see sir?

Now what is discernment?  Mechanically?  Abstractly?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23578930 - 08/26/16 08:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I wanted to read this last night when I was tripping. But I decided playing with my nipples was a better use of my time.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: goldcaphunter]
    #23578941 - 08/26/16 08:28 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Idk about all the stuff op is saying but I promise if you find me some legal cactus.... lets just say challenge accepted :trippinbawelz:


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
    #23579038 - 08/26/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I like this thread. Please don't delete it. It is useless to spew opposition to it when there are people who support it. It isn't hurting anyone, anyone can choose to hide the thread and never think about it again.


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Bomb Diggity]
    #23579054 - 08/26/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

@bombdiggity

Indeed sir.  There is no harm in earnest discussion.  The harm surely comes from censoring truth.

Now what is discernment sir, mechanically?


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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
    #23579720 - 08/26/16 12:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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@peyotezen, 

To discern is to find what is real, and to believe is to cling to authority. Discernment does not lead to belief surely. Discernment disposes of belief in that when one discerns the true nature of belief, that it limits perception, belief loses its power which is compulsion. 

One has a belief, and so they meet reality through this screen. I believe in Allah, so when I meet the Christian I see him in a certain light. I believe the black man is a crook, so I meet him with a certain apprehension.  Likewise, I approximate as the left so then meet the right with distaste.  Now these are obvious external examples. There are also much more subtle ones. And there are internal examples.  If I believe myself to be better or worse than another by some standard, this mechanically skews my perception. Skews interaction. Skews thought, action and perception which are one. Do you see sir?

Now what is discernment?  Mechanically?  Abstractly?




That's a whole lotta garble. Just more New Age spew. "Everything is everything, Baby!" type shit.


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