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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23676212 - 09/25/16 09:54 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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so if a baby is raised in an environment with no people, does the baby not exist?
Or does it still exist because of its relationships to objects?
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23676345 - 09/25/16 10:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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If we are the world and the world is us, then we kill the babies. One has to accept some responsibility for all the baby killing.
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:46 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: monkey_mine]
#23688374 - 09/28/16 08:38 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:51 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23689048 - 09/29/16 12:47 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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To accept responsibility means that one sees a cause and effect relationship, in time, and one sees that the effect in question is attributable, either fully or partly, to ones own action and ones own "self".
Seeing that you partly or fully caused some effect, you admit it, either in the privacy of your thoughts, or to other people.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: monkey_mine]
#23691387 - 09/29/16 05:53 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23691770 - 09/29/16 07:09 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said:
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monkey_mine said: To accept responsibility means that one sees a cause and effect relationship, in time, and one sees that the effect in question is attributable, either fully or partly, to ones own action and ones own "self".
Seeing that you partly or fully caused some effect, you admit it, either in the privacy of your thoughts, or to other people.
@monkey_mine,
so we see that the self, upon understanding that it is the whole and the whole is it, understands that it, mechanically, is responsible for baby murder and the rest of it. is that it sir?
That's it sir. But I think I'm missing some piece. Because I understand that self is world and world is self, so the chain of causation comes back to me, but then I don't feel urgency about it. If I really saw it and felt it deeply, (that I take part in a system that murders babies), wouldn't I feel an urgency to change it? Not just to say "it's important" and pay lip service, but to have some passion about it. To be willing turn my life upside down to change it.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: monkey_mine]
#23694276 - 09/30/16 02:57 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:50 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23694293 - 09/30/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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U are a strange little man.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23694309 - 09/30/16 03:12 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:49 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23694870 - 09/30/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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So craving is the act of self approxiamating, ie the self trying to fullfill itself?
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23694876 - 09/30/16 06:19 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: U are a strange little man.
@bodhiofankou,
sir, the speaker is 6'4" and strange is a relative approximation. so that will not win the BIG BIG MONEY.
We are the same height lol
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
#23700151 - 10/02/16 12:59 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:49 PM)
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:49 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23700341 - 10/02/16 01:47 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said: @spiritshadow,
We are equals in height, indeed. But that is not what we are discussing here, is it sir? Here we are discussing the mechanical nature of the MINDCOCK which is the METACONCECPT. Sir, what is the MINDCOCK to you?
About as big as I want it not too big not too small, just right
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:48 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23702624 - 10/03/16 07:15 AM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said: @monkey_mine,
sir, when you say 'i don't feel urgency' what is that i? is that i the whole? or is that i an artificially segregated relative approximation? surely that is the question sir.
now, we see that the one is the whole, and the whole is the one - mechanically. but is that true for the particular i? that is, we see baby murder, and we see we are of the same composition as environment, both physically and psychologically, so we conclude that the onus is on us to stop the murdering of babies. but we have no sense of urgency do we sir? now why is that? why do we see that we are the problem but neglect to change? right now sir babies are being butt-raped and thrown in blenders and yet we sit here typing away like a pair of cunts.
now, there is the i, which is the cumulative composition of residual relationship. and then there is the i process, which is away from the particular relationships and towards the abstract concept. it is the abstract process of the i that is fundamentally responsible for baby murder - not the particular individual. the particular individual is effectively serving as a recording device of environment, and perhaps he hasn't even seen a baby being murdered.
next, there is the matter of what is this thing considering its own responsibility? is that thing considering not a movement of the known? of environment? surely the act of consideration is like a current passing through the wires of (known) language and concept. so the self, is the known. and the known, which is the thing considering, is the relative product of environment - that is, it is the cumulative effect of approximations of itself relative to it's experiences.
so when the i considers its own responsibility of baby murders, it is competing against all of the other interests of experience. perhaps, you know what this means sir. perhaps you watch it already in yourself. how the vacant mind wanders through the many interests. how it shuffles about in the pertinent known.
every single resting thought, bar none, is a form of craving or self approximation. you can watch this in yourselves sirs. find out if not every single one of your resting thoughts are the result of craving or self approximation! every one sir!
so the mind, craving security, craving continuance, is caught up in the perpetual processes of self approximation and desire. watch every one of your thoughts sirs and you will see why you are not acutely interested in saving babies from being murdered. environment has left the residue of so many other interesting experiences. so you have got to eat! you have to go and smoke weed! you have to find somewhere to put your mindcock! craving sir! then there is self approximation. this is the process of thought that occurs in the resting mind. it is the reflection and consideration of one's self in relationship to one's environment. every time you think about how you acted in some relationship or how you were perceived, this is self approximation. and there are so many other examples. whether it is done with pride or contempt it remains self approximation.
so when the mind is at rest, it defaults to self approximation and craving and not to saving babies from being murdered. it reverts to the processes of craving and self approximation as that is its function.
I'm checking that out to see if it's true. Some of the time it is not true is when I want to go into it. I want to go all the way into it with my mindcock. Wait that sounds like craving too.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23703451 - 10/03/16 12:28 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said: @spiritshadow,
sir, that is the relative approximate value of a particular cock, that is not the MINDCOCK fundamentally. surely the MINDCOCK is not simply the dingus. Surely the MINDCOCK is much more. Surely the MINDCOCK is integrated and mechanical.
Now sir, you have watched the movement of the MINDCOCK in yourself? Have you watched it unfold?
I have become familiar with it, played with it, then came to the realization that everything is transient all the way down to accomplishments. So I have decided to live happily and only search for knowledge only when it is absolutely necessary. To be honest, the only thing I want in this world is to be happy and I am about as close as I can get without reaching death, therefore there is no point, for me, to understand everything. In fact, I would prefer some things to remain a mystery. It keeps my imagination up to par.
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Edited by DinduNuffin (03/02/18 05:47 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23703566 - 10/03/16 01:10 PM (7 years, 3 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said: @spiritshadow,
and how does one define necessity sir? that is, how does one know when it is necessary to discern?
Its a choice. All we truly need is food, water, and shelter. Literally everything else is optional.
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