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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Easyriding123]
#23659806 - 09/19/16 07:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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@easyriding123,
indeed sir. the speaker will post a picture the moment we discern the nature of your request. now sir, why is it that you seek an image of the speaker? fundamentally?
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin] 1
#23659818 - 09/19/16 07:24 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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@didunuffin
Sir, I just want you to know you are dealing with the top tier of intelligence when engaging me, sir.
But I have a request. I want you to bring KRISHNAMURTI to the next gathering. Where i shall challenge him to a full throttle no holds barred Shroomery 'sponsored' winner take all beat down...
Sir, you may not understand this but KRISHNAMURUFRUITYTOOTY will accept my challenge. Trust me... He will...
Hows it gonna feel as you watch your beloved KRISHITMATI cry out to you as i brutally DSHSB?
I know he will accept my challenge, and deep down so do you sir.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23659821 - 09/19/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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You're comparing intellect to concepts in relativity. The speaker is smart regardless of who hears him or sees him. Intelligence doesnt need third party confirmation, and there are objective metrics. You're essentially operating in the same manner as deepak chopra.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23659823 - 09/19/16 07:26 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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I'll tell you after you post it
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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: billy jowl]
#23659853 - 09/19/16 07:37 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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@billyjowl,
certainly you may be the top tier of intelligence when compared to those with whom you associate, compared to those you interact with. perhaps compared to the speaker. or perhaps on a certain scale of intelligence. but to meet reality through a preconception is to skew perception. that is, to meet the speaker through the preconception that he is nonsensical, or that we must engage in DSHSBing behaviour is to limit thought, action and perception. is that not so sir?
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Easyriding123] 1
#23659861 - 09/19/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Easyriding123 said: Can you post a picture tho?
Irrelevant to the point of discussion
@Bodhi quit being a dick
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: ModestMouse]
#23659883 - 09/19/16 07:48 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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ModestMouse said:
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Easyriding123 said: Can you post a picture tho?
Irrelevant to the point of discussion
@Bodhi quit being a dick
Post a picture OP let's see that beautiful smile
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23660005 - 09/19/16 08:45 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said: @billyjowl,
certainly you may be the top tier of intelligence when compared to those with whom you associate, compared to those you interact with. perhaps compared to the speaker. or perhaps on a certain scale of intelligence. but to meet reality through a preconception is to skew perception. that is, to meet the speaker through the preconception that he is nonsensical, or that we must engage in DSHSBing behaviour is to limit thought, action and perception. is that not so sir?
Sir, My thoughts are enhanced, my action (like a jack hammer) and my perception is so heightend i orgasm directly from my pineal gland.
Now i pose to you good sir, Is it possible when you really understand DSHSB behavior, and you sir drop the preconceptions you have on the subject, and not labeling it as simply as just behavior. You begin to understand the beauty and sacredness of DSHSB philosophy. Isn't that so sir?
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: billy jowl] 1
#23660013 - 09/19/16 08:49 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Whats with all the hate? I thought this was a troll thread at first but I really think this guy just wants answers to life just like the rest of us.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG aMONEY!!! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23660179 - 09/19/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said:k Whats with all the hate? I thought this was a troll thread at first but I really think this guy just wants answers to life just like the rest of us.
No hate. Just answering his questions with a nonsensical question, as he does in most all the posts I've read. Or maybe he is extremely intelligent, and i just dont get it cause im bored and dumb.
This could very well be the case...
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23660319 - 09/19/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Im pretty stuck with the whole future and present self, so im going to get back to that tough question later....
You have mentioned Dindu about memes.
Heres a meme 
U say they are signifigant to the puzzle. Is it because of the theory of symbolic interactionism? In case u dont know, symbolic interactionism states that objects, images, people, etc gain their meaning thru the interaction of the object with the environment. Just like how u say relationships create meaning. And memes gain their meaning thru interactions with other people and the environment.
Are these one of the same Dindu? Is this the signifigance of the memes?
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23660761 - 09/20/16 05:52 AM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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DinduNuffin said: @monkey_mine,
so the person understands a problem fully. that is, they see that both the problem/challenge and every possible solution are means and ends to another problem/challenge. they see that means and ends are one. so they understand the integral nature of the all aspects of the problem. granting all of this, this person then chooses a solution, a response. and this response is the same response that would have been compulsively chosen by another. is that it sir?
Yes. I see your point Mr. the speaker. Why choose a solution/response that you now see as inadequate, as one that will not solve the problem? So with complete understanding, compulsion ends.
@monkey_mine,
does it sir? does the man who understands all actions and their subsequent outcomes, who understands the nature of all things to which he is related, all of the many impacts of his actions, and the nature of himself mechanically, is this man compelled? perhaps to answer this question we must first discern what determines the adequacy of a rightly understood action?
sir, if an action is fully understood, what determines its adequacy?
I think if your understanding is adequate then you would not even feel temptation of the compulsive behaviour. Because if you feel the pull of it, then it has some unconscious influence over you. You don't yet have full awareness of the mechanism and of it's destructiveness.
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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: billy jowl]
#23661884 - 09/20/16 02:06 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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billy jowl said: @didunuffin
"Sir, I just want you to know you are dealing with the top tier of intelligence when engaging me, sir."
the speaker - indeed. to approximate the self as this or that is to refurbish the fragile self image sir. we can watch it in ourselves. that is, we can watch those compulsive assertions that re-establish one's self relative to another's. i am this! you are that! this is the process of the i sir. perhaps you are more intelligent than another in a certain regard, but asserting it does not make it true. truth exists outside of assertion, outside of authority, outside of preconception, belief and the rest of it.
"But I have a request. I want you to bring KRISHNAMURTI to the next gathering. Where i shall challenge him to a full throttle no holds barred Shroomery 'sponsored' winner take all beat down...
Sir, you may not understand this but KRISHNAMURUFRUITYTOOTY will accept my challenge. Trust me... He will...
Hows it gonna feel as you watch your beloved KRISHITMATI cry out to you as i brutally DSHSB?"
I know he will accept my challenge, and deep down so do you sir.

indeed. now sirs, when we perceive one another through the veil of preconception, we see not what is actuality. that is, if we approximate our relationship as competition, our thought, action and perception will become confined to the limits of that conception. to the speaker, our relationship cannot be classified as competition. nor can it be encapsulated within any static label applied by the speaker. the true nature of our relationship is that is is an unfolding movement that exists outside of subjective definition.
now sirs, what is important here is not to understand the particular assertion. but rather why the sir is compelled to assert himself. when we understand this mechanically, not subjectively, we understand the self. but when we assert components of the self we refurbish the fragile self image, we are mere slaves to compulsion sirs. the abstract is the the particular, but the same is not true in reverse. is that not so sir?
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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou] 1
#23661917 - 09/20/16 02:14 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Bodhi of Ankou said: You're comparing intellect to concepts in relativity. The speaker is smart regardless of who hears him or sees him. Intelligence doesnt need third party confirmation, and there are objective metrics. You're essentially operating in the same manner as deepak chopra.
@bodhiofankou,
not the intellect sir, perception, thought and action, which are one. the intellect is something else.
now to approximate the speaker as 'operating in the same manner as deepak chopra' is an illusory attempt at approximating reality. reality is moving sir. never a conclusion.
now sir, what is smart and what is intelligence? what divides smart from intelligence? mechanically? not on some scale of measurement but what divides these two concepts fundamentally?
Edited by DinduNuffin (09/20/16 06:47 PM)
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23661930 - 09/20/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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They both describe the same thing and intelligence can be most succinctly described as the ability to do things with the least amount of energy expended. Be it romance, building something, or writing a math test. So no, it isnt relative.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: Bodhi of Ankou]
#23661943 - 09/20/16 02:21 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Smart is just slang.
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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: spirit_shadow]
#23661954 - 09/20/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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spirit_shadow said: Whats with all the hate? I thought this was a troll thread at first but I really think this guy just wants answers to life just like the rest of us.
rest assured sir, this is not a troll thread. this is an investment. the collective consciousness is the future of perception. that is, the collective consciousness is what shapes the perception, thought and action of the future.
there is a metaconcept embeded within KRISHNAMURTI's work that nearly no one discerned. instead the great majority of his readers sought to cling to a particular phrase, a particular image or approximation of KRISHNAMURTI and the concepts he discussed. but approximation destroys reality. approximation is authority. it is preconception. it is to focus on one element of a whole and therefore skew thought, action and perception.
now, relatively speaking, the METACONCEPT is not such an easy piece... but it is there for those who know how to look, not for those who know what to look for.
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23661988 - 09/20/16 02:34 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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Your own investment, I dont doubt that you're using all these responses for some sort of personal project and you fully intend on fucking off without any sort of resolution once you have enough material.
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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: LogicaL Chaos] 1
#23662063 - 09/20/16 02:59 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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LogicaL Chaos said: Im pretty stuck with the whole future and present self, so im going to get back to that tough question later....
You have mentioned Dindu about memes.
Heres a meme 
U say they are signifigant to the puzzle. Is it because of the theory of symbolic interactionism? In case u dont know, symbolic interactionism states that objects, images, people, etc gain their meaning thru the interaction of the object with the environment. Just like how u say relationships create meaning. And memes gain their meaning thru interactions with other people and the environment.
Are these one of the same Dindu? Is this the signifigance of the memes?
@logicalchaos,
indeed sir! now isn't it that whenever there are two things, two concepts, two consciousnesses, from the moment of their inception there is relationship. that is, being and being related are one movement. inseparable mechanically.
so we see that anything that is, is related. now, what if one of those things happens to be aware, conscious, how does it define its self in relation to the other thing? surely it has only one limited perspective. surely it is only shining its light of perception on one side, one aspect of the thing. so surely, it's approximation must be skewed. but the relationship remains as it was prior to the subjective interpretation. are we together sir?
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DinduNuffin
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Re: THE KRISHNAMURTI CHALLENGE!!! WIN BIG MONEY!!! [Re: DinduNuffin]
#23662079 - 09/20/16 03:05 PM (7 years, 4 months ago) |
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@monkey_mine,
could it be sir, that with the complete integral understanding of the self, which is environment, compulsion does not disappear leaving behind it an empty space, but rather it is immediately replaced with discernment?
Edited by DinduNuffin (09/20/16 03:06 PM)
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