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Morty's Monotub - Grow Log * 1
    #23531851 - 08/11/16 03:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Captain's Log,

Stardate...er... Day 3.

Created this guy with Damion5050's coir tek. However, I added a little extra water as I felt like the ratio he stated was slightly on the dry side.

Right now I've got her polyfil stuffed TIGHT and she's in a room that sits around 72-76 degrees F.

This is Cubensis (B+) - spawn/substrate ratio is right around a 1 / 2 - WBS was the grain choice in this one.

This is a MS tub - but I have to start somewhere. I'll be taking a tissue sample of the biggest baddest bad-ass that looks good in her genes and will transfer it into some Pasty Plates I have made up. I am done with Multi Spore now... It's time to stop hosting spore orgies in my house and move on to wearing the big kid underwear.



As always - let me know what you think and let me know if there's anything that sticks out to you. I'm quite new to indoor cultivation - especially cubensis - all feedback is welcome!


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23531911 - 08/11/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How much extra water did you use? I like to use between 5 and 5.5 quarts, I feel that it gets it to perfect field capacity.

One of my biggest mistakes early on was assuming that the sub was too dry and prepping all my tubs on the wet side, without realizing it.

The surface should be a lot more colonized imo, did you use a top layer?


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23531919 - 08/11/16 03:38 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:whathesaid: Tubs used to trich out pretty fast when I prepped on the wet side....best to prep on the dry side and topwater or mist heavily once fully colonized.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23532069 - 08/11/16 04:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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How much extra water did you use? I like to use between 5 and 5.5 quarts, I feel that it gets it to perfect field capacity.

One of my biggest mistakes early on was assuming that the sub was too dry and prepping all my tubs on the wet side, without realizing it.

The surface should be a lot more colonized imo, did you use a top layer?




Yes, I added a top layer of coir/verm after mixing all the spawn and substrate together.

I used about 5.25 quarts of water in this mixture and field capacity was reached. I had to squeeze the substrate fairly hard to get the water to start dripping out of it...


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23532073 - 08/11/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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:whathesaid: Tubs used to trich out pretty fast when I prepped on the wet side....best to prep on the dry side and topwater or mist heavily once fully colonized.




I feel like the substrate was just right... I had to squeeze fairly hard to get water to drip out of the coir/verm as I was spawning.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23532096 - 08/11/16 04:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

My plan is to leave the polyfil stuffed very tight until I am ready to begin fruiting. At that point, I will follow Frank's tek on dialing in the tub with loose top holes and medium bottom holes. I will of course adjust this depending on what the tub looks like. On my last mini-tub, I did the spawn run in fruiting conditions. It is working out great and I am just about ready to grab a second flush off of it...
I would like to perform the spawn run in this tub with a little less FAE to see if the mycelium will cover that top layer just a little bit more.

I understand that cubensis does not care about FAE or Humidity in the spawn run and spawn run can be carried out in fruiting conditions without a problem.
I am experimenting with trying to grab a better pinset in this tub than the last.

Let me know if my thoughts are on the right track, thanks!


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23532137 - 08/11/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

who told you to stuff polyfill tightly in the holes? Your tub is taking on fresh air, I can tell from the rings left in the condensation around the holes. I suspect this is the reason for the slow colonization. Remove the polyfill and use duct tape to cover the holes. This will create an environment with high C02, the right conditions for colonization.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23532208 - 08/11/16 05:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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who told you to stuff polyfill tightly in the holes? Your tub is taking on fresh air, I can tell from the rings left in the condensation around the holes. I suspect this is the reason for the slow colonization. Remove the polyfill and use duct tape to cover the holes. This will create an environment with high C02, the right conditions for colonization.




No one told me to do that-my idea behind it was shutting off a bit of FAE might help the mycelium colonize a bit more of the top layer than with my other minimono.

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Lots of people doing spawn run in fruiting conditions. It's not a good practice for some species but for cubes it's fine and seems to even speed up pin times.




We talked a bit about this in my other post:
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So conducting the spawn run in fruiting conditions will indeed hurt the colonization?

This didn't seem to be the case in my minitub - it was spawned 1:4 and colonized in about 7 days while being subjected to fruiting conditions.
It was pinning on day 9.

At the beginning of this grow-I had the monotub inside a trashbag. It wasn't sealed airtight, but the draw-string was closed all the way. I believe that was significantly shutting off FAE.

Should I go back to that method. I don't have duct tape laying around at this very second-and if I could get away with the trashbag idea. I would definitely do that. But, if the trashbag solution is a no go and duct tape is the way, the truth and the light...I don't mind going and grabbing a roll.

If you have time, can you discuss with me a bit about the no FAE vs yes FAE during the spawn run?

Thanks PsilocyBen!


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23532486 - 08/11/16 06:58 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You aren't going to stop the FAE by plugging a hole with something that is meant to breathe...

You are absolutely right, the reason you saw faster colonization with your minimono was because you let the C02 build up.

If you don't have duct tape laying around then you aren't ready for this hobby yet! or anything really :shrug: :grin:

Just wrap your tub in a garbage bag like you did before, or inside of another tote if you have one laying around.

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23532513 - 08/11/16 07:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.

Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23532537 - 08/11/16 07:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Really eh? i'll have to give that a try on my next tub...its a good thing someone keeps up on new techniques around here :grin:

OP has his tub in fruiting conditions....what do you think the cause of the slow colonization is?


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23532577 - 08/11/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Could be a number of things. Contams, too wet, too low of spawn ratio, too thick of a top layer, etc. Beauty of fruit when spawning is it will do what it does no matter the reason.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23532820 - 08/11/16 08:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

To be honest with you, I don't really think the spawning is going slow at all. Everytime I go look at it I see new areas of mycelial growth.
I would estimate at this rate, I will see a completely colonized monotub in the next 4-5 days or so.

I would say full colonization of a monotub in less than or around 10 days is fairly average, yes? Unless you guys are seeing 5 day colonizing- I would say this isn't going too badly! Hehe.

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You aren't going to stop the FAE by plugging a hole with something that is meant to breathe...

You are absolutely right, the reason you saw faster colonization with your minimono was because you let the C02 build up.

If you don't have duct tape laying around then you aren't ready for this hobby yet! or anything really :shrug: :grin:

Just wrap your tub in a garbage bag like you did before, or inside of another tote if you have one laying around.

Update us once you see colonization happening.




I think you have either not looked at my photos or are confused about my post, possibly?

Loosening and tightening polyfil does indeed raise and lower Fae. So a tightly filled hole will decrease FAE and a loosely filled hole will increase, right?

When you say I let cO2 build up in my minitub, you might be mistaken. My mini was set up in fruiting conditions the entire time it was in its spawn run. There was no buildup of co2, as the FAE was too high for there to be any buildup. It colonized fast-but I don't believe it was c02 that did it.

And yes, I need some damn duct tape! Lol
I used up the last of it just a few days ago and have procrastinated on getting more. :grin:

Also, you ask why I don't see any colonization yet... I am seeing growth all over the tub as of now, there was a top layer and it seems to be showing through on many spots.

In my opinion, I'm seeing good growth for day 3 if this stays the way it is, I will be worried. But, I'm seeing new growth constantly so I think it's going well?!

Anywhoozles, get back with me and let me know if what I just mentioned is correct or not. I enjoy the feedback and want to make this grow a great one.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23532829 - 08/11/16 08:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.

Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




Thanks for the input pasty. I thought I was on the right track.

I feel like I should keep it where it is and let the colonization proceed with tightly packed poly. It seems to be moving along fairly okay and I bet I will either see:
100% colonization and then loosen the polyfil to increase Fae.
Or
Pins and then increase FAE.

Seem like a plan?

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23532927 - 08/11/16 09:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Personally I would crank the FAE after ya get the pinset in. Too much FAE before pins are in will mean a loss of RH which will cause pinset to suffer. If you keep up with misting then you can increase the FAE more but, it's a fine line to not over mist. I personally would play it safer until you have a few more runs under the belt.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23533002 - 08/11/16 09:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Personally I would crank the FAE after ya get the pinset in. Too much FAE before pins are in will mean a loss of RH which will cause pinset to suffer. If you keep up with misting then you can increase the FAE more but, it's a fine line to not over mist. I personally would play it safer until you have a few more runs under the belt.




Awesome. Thanks Pasty. I will leave everything as is until I see pins. After that, there shall be FAE.

My minitub is seriously putting out. I used one pint of popcorn to 4 pints coir/verm and I've harvested 12 grams dry thus far. There is no 'flush' as you previously mentioned...simply fruit after fruit growing to maturity randomly. I sort of like this, as every day I'm picking 1-2 grams dry.

There is also no aborts on the minitub. Every pin (few as they are) are growing to maturity, which is something I've never encountered before.

I'm thinking it was the unicorn milk I added to the water before mixing with the coir/verm. Not sure though...


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23533287 - 08/11/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




So allowing a tub to colonize 100% before introducing fruiting conditions will produce a more even pinset with a potentially wider canopy;

And

Spawning directly to fruiting conditions results in the fruits reaching maturity at random throughout the life of that tub?


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Maximillion]
    #23533303 - 08/11/16 11:21 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

In the most extreme imagining of the situation, sure, but it's not really all that different.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23533334 - 08/11/16 11:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




So allowing a tub to colonize 100% before introducing fruiting conditions will produce a more even pinset with a potentially wider canopy;

And

Spawning directly to fruiting conditions results in the fruits reaching maturity at random throughout the life of that tub?




I have been growing cubensis indoors for only a short duration... however-this does seem to be the case in my smaller minitub I am currently fruiting. Also, when I look at the grow logs of others who have done the fruiting condition spawn run, I also noticed their flushes are uneven and somewhat sporadic.

My theory (and take this with a grain of salt, as I am new to this) is that running the spawning phase without fruiting conditions present causes the mycelium to act as if it has not reached the surface yet. The mycelium expands its network to overtake every little bit of nutrients it can get its hands on. After it colonizes 100%, it begins to wait somewhat dormantly until fruiting conditions exist-in which it pins and fruits. My theory is that people tend to get full 'flushes' because the entirety of the mycelial network is on the same page-ready for conditions to throw pins out and begin fruiting.
On the other side of the coin, (also, this is just my thoughts-I can't back this up with any evidence) a substrate that is in its spawn run that is also subjected to fruiting conditions knows that it is time to fruit, and I believe that certain sections of the network begin to pin-while other sections are still gaining hold of nutrients not yet gathered by the mycelium. In the end-from what I've seen- there is no difference in yield or potency.

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In the most extreme imagining of the situation, sure, but it's not really all that different.




I feel like that is what Inocuole is sort of saying. "Sure, in the most extreme imagining, that is what's going on..." but as I said above-I really don't think any of it matters in the long run.
For some species, this ideal is definitely not okay to cultivate with. However with cubensis, I have been told that is completely fine and it does not matter.

Hell, I might be totally and completely wrong.
I just feel like either way, you will get what you were going to get as long as contaminants don't take hold. That might be another topic of discussion though...

Zing!  Love this hobby. So much to think about and so much to learn. Hopefully my above is right! I love thinking critically about nature and mycology is an awesome field to do just that.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23533382 - 08/12/16 12:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome observations! :smile: Thank you for your input.
I accidently did a few tubs directly to fruiting conditions.
Only two of them made it, but I have noticed that the fruit is ripening very randomly in comparison to my other trials.
I honestly do have not even had any actual flushes from either tub.
As stated by someone above, maybe a gram or two a day in dry weight gets harvested.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Maximillion] * 1
    #23533740 - 08/12/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

If you are working with ms that is to be expected. Often with ms the first flush literally bleeds right into the second.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23533931 - 08/12/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Awesome observations! :smile: Thank you for your input.
I accidently did a few tubs directly to fruiting conditions.
Only two of them made it, but I have noticed that the fruit is ripening very randomly in comparison to my other trials.
I honestly do have not even had any actual flushes from either tub.
As stated by someone above, maybe a gram or two a day in dry weight gets harvested.




Thank you for the kind words, but I would barely call what I said an observation. More like a hypothesis... hehe

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If you are working with ms that is to be expected. Often with ms the first flush literally bleeds right into the second.




This makes perfect sense... As I have seen this with MS - cakes as well as Minitub so far. I think when I isolate some good genetics I will see a difference in pinset as well as flushing patterns.

About to go to work now, I will update with pictures of the tub when I get back home.

Thanks for all the input everyone - it's extremely helpful as always!


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23533962 - 08/12/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.

Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Perception7]
    #23534278 - 08/12/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.

Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.




As Pasty said before-it is not good to do this with certain types of mushroom-however with cubensis-it seems to be just fine.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Perception7]
    #23534367 - 08/12/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.

Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.




When I first learned about the monotub MP tape over holes at spawning was standard.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: spacechildo]
    #23534630 - 08/12/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.

Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.




Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.




When I first learned about the monotub MP tape over holes at spawning was standard.





I looked at 2-3 grows I found in the past few years that I saw nice yields from. All of the OP's just poly'd their holes and let them ride. One used the trash bag around the tub. All seemed to crank out a nice yield of mush-so in my opinion, it's personal preference.

IMO, I like the idea of fruiting conditions during spawn run, as you get to dial in your tube before mushrooms are growing (or right as their pinning) and the pinset comes faster than with 0 FAE during spawn run.

My next project will be a side by side comparison from agar. I think that will dictate my road from here on out.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23536676 - 08/13/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

24 hours since first post and last picture update:::

Here's some updated pictures on the progress! I'm excited to see how much she's grown.
Conditions still look great in the tub. I haven't touched or opened the lid since the beginning of the spawn run. I estimate the spawn run will be over in just a few days. It's getting fairly close now and everyday I see exponential growth. I can't wait until I see primordia. It's on to fruiting body > agar after this!

As always, let me know any comments/feedback you have as to the current conditions and improvement. All support is welcome.

Thanks!



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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23536775 - 08/13/16 01:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's getting there, I hope you get a good flush. Waiting is the hardest part


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Psilosoulful]
    #23537170 - 08/13/16 07:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dafuq is this shit in your title about MS to LC?


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23537390 - 08/13/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Dafuq is this shit in your title about MS to LC?




It's a joke Inocuole...
Before it was: "Yes, you have cobweb"

It's changed once again!
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23537902 - 08/13/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Bad use of apostrophe.  :willynilly:


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23538076 - 08/13/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Bad use of apostrophe.  :willynilly:



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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23538082 - 08/13/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

.... Fine, I'll take it.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23545571 - 08/15/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hey Everyone,

Update for you. (DAY 7)



I am happy to say that the substrate has been moist during the entire spawn run and that the conditions seen thus far have shown to be ideal.

I have rings around the polyfil areas and the walls are lined with condensation with small trails where water has condensed and fallen.

I feel like I am quite close to 100% and I expect to see pins any day now!

I've got a few different areas where growth looks different. Some areas near the edge of the tub look a bit cotton like. Areas near the center look very rhyzo and aerial. - I imagine it's because of the air exchange that certain portions of my tub are getting. It is currently tucked in a corner, might want to change that when I can.

Anywho. Let me know what you think and all feedback is welcome.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23551058 - 08/17/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Day 9



Well, she is definitely looking ready to fruit. I'm thinking that I will be waiting on pins to begin dialing in and adjusting the poly.

I'm no pro at cubensis mycelium - so if a veteran could take a look at these and let me know what you think that would be awesome!

I am surprised at how wet the top layer of mycelium has stayed all during this first week of spawn run. It's like I've been misting it daily without taking the lid off at all... I'm beginning to realize why everyone loves these here "mono-tubes".

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23551077 - 08/17/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Doesn't look good IMO. Especially the centre of the tub looks very grainy and strange....

I wanna say its the bad lighting in the pic, but I don't think so.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23551327 - 08/17/16 09:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Doesn't look good IMO. Especially the centre of the tub looks very grainy and strange....

I wanna say its the bad lighting in the pic, but I don't think so.




Here's some pictures with better lighting.



The first pic is from the center of the tub.



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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23551468 - 08/17/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It has a kind of granular look to it. Not sure what thats about


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: PsilocyBen17]
    #23551673 - 08/17/16 11:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I know I'm new here...but that shit looks fucking beautiful. Looks super clean.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: ShroomieNewbie]
    #23551691 - 08/17/16 11:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Looks good to me too :shrug:


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23551720 - 08/17/16 11:12 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

#3


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    #23551786 - 08/17/16 11:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I was on my phone earlier....looks a lot better from where I'm sitting now. And I'm not just jumping ship.  Retina display :heart:


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: ShroomieNewbie]
    #23551880 - 08/18/16 12:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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#3




This moment will forever go down in history... The first time dad was proud of son. Hah.

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I'm ready for this tub to get to fruiting...
I am inclined to wait for pinning to introduce the needed FAE, I don't want to possibly dry the tub out too soon with my lack of skills.

Thanks for the reassurance!..I'm hoping this one gives me a great specimen to clone!
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23551883 - 08/18/16 12:09 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

You're never getting a cent out of me, and you can tell your mother the same, god bless her abominable soul.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23551922 - 08/18/16 12:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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You're never getting a cent out of me, and you can tell your mother the same, god bless her abominable soul.




Mom hates you anyway. You're an asshole.
(Her words, not mine...)

All these plates and nothing to drop in them... I'm about to start dropping random things in these plates and seeing what grows....(you know...for science).

Hey Inocuole, you think if I put some of my own personal 'specimen' in some of these Pasty plates another one of us will grow?

There's like a 1/4 chance that it won't grow up to be an asshole like you right?
(Isn't that how genetics work?)

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23552678 - 08/18/16 09:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I'm ready for this tub to get to fruiting...
I am inclined to wait for pinning to introduce the needed FAE, I don't want to possibly dry the tub out too soon with my lack of skills.




Maybe my brain isn't working this morning, but isn't having any FAE(poly in holes] a fruiting initializer?


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: ShroomieNewbie]
    #23553033 - 08/18/16 11:26 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

I'm ready for this tub to get to fruiting...
I am inclined to wait for pinning to introduce the needed FAE, I don't want to possibly dry the tub out too soon with my lack of skills.




Maybe my brain isn't working this morning, but isn't having any FAE(poly in holes] a fruiting initializer?




At this point in my grow, there is indeed FAE. There has been FAE since the moment it was spawned to bulk.

However, there is definitely not enough, as the polyfil is stuffed extremely tight.
My plan is to wait until the substrate begins to pin, and then introduce the FAE needed by the mushrooms to grow properly.
I did not want to do this prematurely - as this is my first monotub and I did not want to dry my substrate out prematurely.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23553840 - 08/18/16 04:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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At this point in my grow, there is indeed FAE. There has been FAE since the moment it was spawned to bulk.

However, there is definitely not enough, as the polyfil is stuffed extremely tight.
My plan is to wait until the substrate begins to pin, and then introduce the FAE needed by the mushrooms to grow properly.
I did not want to do this prematurely - as this is my first monotub and I did not want to dry my substrate out prematurely.




I feel it. It's cool to kind of verify how well poly works, since I got this big ass bag for 8 bucks on Amazon thinking it was small.. I'm sure we've all read the stories about people talking shit on poly. It took me 5 minutes to get a great method down for stuffing poly in my lids and it's tighter than a camels ass in a sandstorm.

Nice to know all that translates easily to the tubs. I think I may do the same thing if this ends up going well for you. It would seem to me that it would be easy as hell just to 'pull hairs' you could say, when time comes to adjust your poly to a lesser amount without actually taking it all out.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: ShroomieNewbie]
    #23555388 - 08/18/16 10:36 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:


At this point in my grow, there is indeed FAE. There has been FAE since the moment it was spawned to bulk.

However, there is definitely not enough, as the polyfil is stuffed extremely tight.
My plan is to wait until the substrate begins to pin, and then introduce the FAE needed by the mushrooms to grow properly.
I did not want to do this prematurely - as this is my first monotub and I did not want to dry my substrate out prematurely.




I feel it. It's cool to kind of verify how well poly works, since I got this big ass bag for 8 bucks on Amazon thinking it was small.. I'm sure we've all read the stories about people talking shit on poly. It took me 5 minutes to get a great method down for stuffing poly in my lids and it's tighter than a camels ass in a sandstorm.

Nice to know all that translates easily to the tubs. I think I may do the same thing if this ends up going well for you. It would seem to me that it would be easy as hell just to 'pull hairs' you could say, when time comes to adjust your poly to a lesser amount without actually taking it all out.




In a nutshell, this is what I am going to do when the fruits pin.
I'll be using Frank's dial in tek.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23560101 - 08/20/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Day 12

PINS

and they are everywhere.



Top poly is incredibly loose, per franks tek.

Conditions are looking aye-okay as well. I could feel the humidity today when I took the lid off. My top holes have a nice bar below them all the way down to the substrate where there is an absence of condensation and droplets. Bottom holes have a nice little ring around them at the substrate level.

Thanks for all the help everyone, I have a feeling this one is going to explode! (...hopefully....hehe)


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23560288 - 08/20/16 03:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Very nice!  Seeing a great pinset never gets old. Thanks for sharing!


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    #23560306 - 08/20/16 03:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23566053 - 08/22/16 01:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Day 14 - Two Weeks In



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    #23566077 - 08/22/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Looks pretty good. See? No white mold.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
    #23566102 - 08/22/16 02:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Looks pretty good. See? No white mold.




Haha.... Yeah.

I went back through all your old stuff and looked at your "just starting to fruit" grows that had Lencacillium. You had a few pictures that were very similar to what I saw when the bubbles started to form. With the added stripped mushroom in my other grow, whose tray also produced another near it - I grew worried.

After my amateur mind grew worried are started to focus negative attention on things that didn't even matter. Haha
"Look at that one, it's already starting to strip!"
"That one's starting to curl under!!! IT'S DRY BUBZ!!!"

lmao... I'm growin a MS monotub for christ's sake, I'm gonna see some wierdos in there, ya know?

Eh, you live - you learn.

Now I have 3 other tubs in the works and two that are about a week behind this guy.

Should be fun! The two that are a week behind this one are a side-by-side of fruiting conditions during spawn run / no fruiting conditions during spawn run.

:hellyeah:

There shall be mush!


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    #23566124 - 08/22/16 02:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

great job mortimus!! looking delectable

looks like a nice pinset coming in, not bad at all for a first mono!!

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    #23566135 - 08/22/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It takes time to spot. Those things you thought were dry bubbles looked more to me like pins that hadn't broke the universal veil yet.


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    #23566171 - 08/22/16 02:28 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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It takes time to spot. Those things you thought were dry bubbles looked more to me like pins that hadn't broke the universal veil yet.




You are 100% correct...

They all have caps now except for 2 or 3. One of which is white. I'm hoping that one grows to full maturity... I'd love to attempt to clone a unique one.


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    #23566207 - 08/22/16 02:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Day 14 - Two Weeks In



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    #23566322 - 08/22/16 03:27 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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I was on my phone earlier....looks a lot better from where I'm sitting now. And I'm not just jumping ship.  Retina display :heart:




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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Kenetic]
    #23569675 - 08/23/16 04:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Day 15

These guys are growin' up!

I'm having a slight FAE issue, I've moved my fan around a bit and straight up removed polyfil to try and help with that... the beads of moisture have never left the substrate and now that we're definitely fruiting, I really need to get this tub dialed in!

This morning before work I checked them - No Fuzzy Feet
7 hours later, I get home and check on them - Fuzzy Feet

*Damn it!!*

Alas, they are looking really good at this point.

I'm excited to harvest my first monotub flush!
I'm surprised the flush is so even, being that this tub was derived from a MS syringe. I'm hoping that's a good sign for what's to come.

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    #23569771 - 08/23/16 05:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Looook at those fuckin MUSHROOMS Morty!!
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    #23569823 - 08/23/16 05:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Looook at those fuckin MUSHROOMS Morty!!
Woot! Sure are some nice clusters there Morty! Good job Morty!




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    #23570010 - 08/23/16 06:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Try not to blow my-buuuuugh-cover Morty. We are growing illegal substances after all!

B-By the way, I dont think fuzzy feet is mu-mu-mu-muuuuugh-ch to worry about Morty. Could always just be genetics ya know?


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    #23570037 - 08/23/16 06:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Try not to blow my-buuuuugh-cover Morty. We are growing illegal substances after all!

B-By the way, I dont think fuzzy feet is mu-mu-mu-muuuuugh-ch to worry about Morty. Could always just be genetics ya know?




Ohh, uh, geez Rick...Never really thought about it like that, you know? Heh* I guess that's why we keep having these adventures together right? To learn? That's the best way to do it... you know what I mean Rick?


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    #23570076 - 08/23/16 06:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry to break character but I've had this happen before, if the fuzzy feet don't get worse than this you shouldn't have too many issues but if it keeps getting worse you can expect a pretty high abort rate.

These are B+ spores shot straight to grain. Could have been genetics, could have been something riding along with the culture. Also partly due to slightly under field capacity substrate.

The tallest matured into very small, skinny fruits. The others pretty much all aborted.


No worries though, you already have enough shrooms to trip face if they all aborted right now :lol: But seriously, you'll still definitely pull a good amount from that pinset not even fuzzy feet can derail that completely. Just keep up with it and you'll have to wait and see for the final results.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: SloppyJoseph]
    #23570194 - 08/23/16 07:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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....The tallest matured into very small, skinny fruits. The others pretty much all aborted...




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    #23570225 - 08/23/16 07:11 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

But like I said you're still in the clear as long as they don't get worse


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    #23570238 - 08/23/16 07:15 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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But like I said you're still in the clear as long as they don't get worse




:hellyeah:


I really want this first monotub to be bangin'...

I'm about to start posting "hourly update" pictures over here... hehe

You can't be scarin' fools with facts! Not on their first monotub!
I need un-honest generic replies that shield my eyes from the wrongdoings I am currently going through......      ....    .    ..  .

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23571822 - 08/24/16 04:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So fuzzy feet can be from bacteria or under field capacity? I thought it was from too high humidity ? Not trying to hijack I get them almost every grow ... shit looks killer tho man nice job my first tub I pulled 7 grams dry on a 66qt tub LMAO so you're fucking rockin it dude


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    #23571867 - 08/24/16 05:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I have a mushroom tray growing in open air roght now and each one has fuzzy feet. I doubt its because of low FAE or high humidity


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Fuzzy feet is from low FAE or genetics.  I don't even know where some of these misconceptions are coming from..


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Fuzzy feet is from low FAE or genetics.  I don't even know where some of these misconceptions are coming from..




I was doing some research fairly late last night about the relationship between fuzzy growth and bacteria...wasn't finding much...
I've always read that it was from lack of FAE. I don't want to buy in to the genetics thing. I think that may be just another statement a noob can make to blame their sub-par grow on 'genetics' rather than blaming the true problem....you know, THEM. Hehe.

I can see it now:

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"Well everyone, I think I got some bad genetics here."

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I will blame genetics when I'm 100% positive it's not me. I'm fairly sure I need to excel at dialing in not only the tub....but the room as well.


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    #23571982 - 08/24/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

well then, explain to me how mushrooms grown in open air gets their fuzzy feet!


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    #23571983 - 08/24/16 06:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well try as you might, some cultures will simply always produce fuzzy feet.  And then you're left looking like a moron for wasting your time fighting a battle that'd never be won.  I don't see why you would want to ignore the correct answer just because it could be used as an excuse by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about...  Low FAE causes other signs that would be present simultaneously.


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    #23572163 - 08/24/16 08:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'll post you a pic of my mushroom growing in open air later tonight. It has fuzzy feet about an inch and a half up the stem.
My Brazilians are hairy little bastards. Most of my fruits end up having fuzz I dont even think twice about it anymore


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    #23572482 - 08/24/16 10:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Well try as you might, some cultures will simply always produce fuzzy feet.  And then you're left looking like a moron for wasting your time fighting a battle that'd never be won.  I don't see why you would want to ignore the correct answer just because it could be used as an excuse by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about...  Low FAE causes other signs that would be present simultaneously.




Not ignore! Just rule out my own fault first!

I'm too new to this hobby to not rule out myself first.

Also, the same syringe was used to inoculate my minitray and all those fruits were fuzzy feet free.. With MS grows, the genetics are so all over the place that it would be a strange coincidence that the entire tub has fuzzy growth, right? I think I'm on the right page in thinking that it's not genetics but a FAE issue because it's from MS and not a culture that has been isolated in any way?

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well then, explain to me how mushrooms grown in open air gets their fuzzy feet!



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Well try as you might, some cultures will simply always produce fuzzy feet.  And then you're left looking like a moron for wasting your time fighting a battle that'd never be won.  I don't see why you would want to ignore the correct answer just because it could be used as an excuse by someone who doesn't know what they're talking about...  Low FAE causes other signs that would be present simultaneously.




I might need to reiterate what I meant by not "buy in" to the genetics thing. It sounds as if I was saying that couldn't be possible. This is not what I meant. I was trying to state that in my particular case with this grow, I do not believe it's genetics.
I am well aware that genetics can cause fuzzy growth in a grow.

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    #23572545 - 08/24/16 11:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

well do you think these looks like they're suffering from poor fae then? cause I dont :shrug:

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    #23572724 - 08/24/16 12:37 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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well do you think these looks like they're suffering from poor fae then? cause I dont :shrug:

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I think the point you're trying to make is that even though this particular tub came from MS, the genetics that cause fuzzy growth can still happen throughout all the spores from a given syringe?

Wow, I had no idea! I thought that every mushroom in a MS grow is the result of different spores (different genetics).

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    #23572828 - 08/24/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

nice looking tub morty! congrats buddy :highfive1:

bear in mind, genetics are not a prescription for the future. genetics determine POTENTIAL, as in the same way depending whats in a tool box, you could have the potential to build a slingshot or a cannon.

Genetics don't mean that a particular phenotype, characteristic or behavior will NECESSARILY happen, only that the building blocks are there and the genetic potential exists

especially regarding something like "fuzzy feet", i would expect this to be more of a behavior or a response to particular stimuli rather than a genetic predisposition to always have fuzzy feet. In this way, all the strains present in the MS tub could be responding in the same way to the same stimuli/environmental factor. this doesnt mean that any of them would necessarily ALWAYS have fuzzy feet

what is triggering the fuzzy feet? good question, but i dont think its lack of FAE because the other indicators arent there. it could be related to a concentration of particular atmospheric gasses, or any number of things.

I have a tub going right now that only started showing fuzzy feet after i cloned a few cluster pins yesterday. Today, there were tons of aborts, nowhere near the areas i interfered with, and they all had very fuzzy feet, along with all the healthy fruits.

Crazy thing is that many of them seem to be re absorbing into the substrate or into healthy fruits!! it seems like this fuzzy myc is very aggressive and may play a role in getting rid of / responding to aborts (or the conditions that caused the aborts)

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    #23572872 - 08/24/16 01:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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well do you think these looks like they're suffering from poor fae then? cause I dont :shrug:

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I think the point you're trying to make is that even though this particular tub came from MS, the genetics that cause fuzzy growth can still happen throughout all the spores from a given syringe?

Wow, I had no idea! I thought that every mushroom in a MS grow is the result of different spores (different genetics).

Thanks for the insight!




Well, yeah that too, but what I'm really trying to say is nevermind fuzzy feet when its such low amounts.
look for long spindly fruits when judging low or good fae. if the fuzzy feet becomes fuzzy stockings you can blame poor FAE.


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    #23572976 - 08/24/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Wow, I had no idea...





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    #23572998 - 08/24/16 02:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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nice looking tub morty! congrats buddy :highfive1:

bear in mind, genetics are not a prescription for the future. genetics determine POTENTIAL, as in the same way depending whats in a tool box, you could have the potential to build a slingshot or a cannon.

Genetics don't mean that a particular phenotype, characteristic or behavior will NECESSARILY happen, only that the building blocks are there and the genetic potential exists

especially regarding something like "fuzzy feet", i would expect this to be more of a behavior or a response to particular stimuli rather than a genetic predisposition to always have fuzzy feet. In this way, all the strains present in the MS tub could be responding in the same way to the same stimuli/environmental factor. this doesnt mean that any of them would necessarily ALWAYS have fuzzy feet

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I have a tub going right now that only started showing fuzzy feet after i cloned a few cluster pins yesterday. Today, there were tons of aborts, nowhere near the areas i interfered with, and they all had very fuzzy feet, along with all the healthy fruits.

Crazy thing is that many of them seem to be re absorbing into the substrate or into healthy fruits!! it seems like this fuzzy myc is very aggressive and may play a role in getting rid of / responding to aborts (or the conditions that caused the aborts)

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23573032 - 08/24/16 02:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Day 16

Came home to this today!

Looks like at least two trips in there...



Looks like I'll be doing a two day harvest...not so bad considering my other mini tray never stopped fruiting until it died!
(Literally one mushroom after another maturing... I was picking one or two 12 gram (Wet) mushrooms a day for like 2 weeks...

In my mind, this was a shroom-splosion!

Later on down the line I'll up the ante with some better cultures...
But for now, this is wonderful to my eyes!

Now the real question is--which one(s) should I clone?

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    #23573100 - 08/24/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also, how the hell do I harvest this damn thing...Geez (First world problems)
I guess I'll just work my way from one side to the other-there's an area in the upper left that has a hole big enough to start slicing. But I know that many are still growing and I don't want to disturb them.

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    #23573251 - 08/24/16 03:30 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

lift sub+liner out of the tub, one hand on each far corner, put it on a table and get your scissors out. or twist'n'pull.


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    #23573271 - 08/24/16 03:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23573411 - 08/24/16 04:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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lift sub+liner out of the tub, one hand on each far corner, put it on a table and get your scissors out. or twist'n'pull.



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    #23573424 - 08/24/16 04:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I feel like I've said something I dont fully understand here :lol:


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    #23573432 - 08/24/16 04:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Oh you know what you said.


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    #23573468 - 08/24/16 04:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

twist and pull may sound sexy but you feel real dirty afterwards. Some like it dirty tho :derfase:


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    #23573509 - 08/24/16 04:40 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not sure what you said either...  I'm inclined to think this is the first these guys are hearing of proper harvesting with a liner technique..


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    #23573530 - 08/24/16 04:45 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

or maybe they have really disappointed girlfriends? :shrug: IDK...


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    #23573551 - 08/24/16 04:55 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah really disappointed girlfriend hits the mail nail on the head haha. I got to get back to class. 3 hours left in my day lol.


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    #23573992 - 08/24/16 07:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Used this as a guide

Easy-sleezy-pumpkin-squeezy!


I had no idea how many shroomies were in there until I actually started harvesting... :eek:Jesus H Christ and Doggy-Style Mary! I've harvested probably 60% of flush 1 and it filled up all 4 trays of my dehydrator...they're packed in there like sardines too. It's ridiculous.

I'm thinking tomorrow will be when I get to harvest the rest of the 1st flush.

It's still quite mind blowing right now.

Also! The smell....that's something that you never hear about... Walking into your 'drying room' and taking a big whiff...  Mmmmm..:bow2:..  "Mush Room"


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    #23574061 - 08/24/16 08:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23576229 - 08/25/16 02:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

1st Flush - Total Yield

WET = 1576.54 grams

DRY = 165.42 grams

Percentage of Wet/Dry = 10.4% Fairly Average, yeah?

All in all - this was a successful grow for sure. I used around 4.5 quarts of spawn for this.

165.42 / 4.5 = 36.76 grams per 1 quart spawn.


Woot!

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Sorry I couldn't take one of those "Giant Yield on Scale" photos. My scale max is 50 grams, so I had to weigh in smaller portions in order to total everything up!

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    #23576256 - 08/25/16 02:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

That dry weight seems high. You sure you got those cracker dry? Should be more like around 125 g dry if your wet weight was 1576 grams. I've never had fruits that dried to 11%. Haven't even really gotten close to 10.


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    #23576333 - 08/25/16 02:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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That dry weight seems high. You sure you got those cracker dry? Should be more like around 125 g dry if your wet weight was 1576 grams. I've never had fruits that dried to 11%. Haven't even really gotten close to 10.




Yes, I'm positive they are cracker dry.

They were weighed during dehydration until no difference in weight was recorded for a 1 hour long period. I did this separately with all 4 trays of dehydrator each drying session. (I harvested over the span of two days).

This method of weighing/continuing to dry/weighing/continuing to dry is exactly what we do before shipping out our edibles at work to various places. The only difference being that we use an excalibur dehydrator at work and I'm rockin' a presto.

Hopefully I'll have a few grand laying around soon so I can get an excalibur dehydrator for the hizzy! (Not likely...)


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    #23576344 - 08/25/16 02:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23576365 - 08/25/16 03:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Damn sexy mate! Congrats! But im confused about something. You said that you see "two trips" there but your dry yield is 165g and according to the site you need only 5g to trip really hard. Could you explain? Am I missing something?
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: dragkt]
    #23576383 - 08/25/16 03:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Damn sexy mate! Congrats! But im confused about something. You said that you see "two trips" there but your dry yield is 165g and according to the site you need only 5g to trip really hard. Could you explain? Am I missing something?
Yeah I'm new..




Sarcasm!

This is many, many trips!

At this point in time, I use 3.5 grams to trip. 165g / 3.5 = 47(ish) trips...

There is definitely more than 2 in there!


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23576471 - 08/25/16 03:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

noice mate


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Kenetic]
    #23576480 - 08/25/16 03:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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noice mate




Thanks Kenetic!

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23576483 - 08/25/16 03:33 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Well, shame on me. That was my first impression "must be a fucking joke, how much this guy can eat at once?!". All clear captain! Bless you and your spores!


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: dragkt]
    #23576490 - 08/25/16 03:35 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Well, shame on me. That was my first impression "must be a fucking joke, how much this guy can eat at once?!". All clear captain! Bless you and your spores!




No problem. Sarcasm is hard to get sometimes through text. I should probably stop being sarcastic as much as I do... or at least put a small sarcasm tag on it or something! hehe


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23576610 - 08/25/16 04:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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dragkt said:
Well, shame on me. That was my first impression "must be a fucking joke, how much this guy can eat at once?!". All clear captain! Bless you and your spores!




No problem. Sarcasm is hard to get sometimes through text. I should probably stop being sarcastic as much as I do... or at least put a small sarcasm tag on it or something! hehe




Nah it's funnier when people misinterpret things in the face of widely available information.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23576726 - 08/25/16 04:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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morty422 said:
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dragkt said:
Well, shame on me. That was my first impression "must be a fucking joke, how much this guy can eat at once?!". All clear captain! Bless you and your spores!




No problem. Sarcasm is hard to get sometimes through text. I should probably stop being sarcastic as much as I do... or at least put a small sarcasm tag on it or something! hehe




Nah it's funnier when people misinterpret things in the face of widely available information.




This is true.

Wouldn't it be awesome if someone indeed thought that a yield of that nature was approximately "2 trips" and continued to eat 80 grams of cubensis.

What kind of fucked up day would that be?


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23578124 - 08/25/16 11:32 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

The kind I want to read about when I sit down and hit up my shroomery.org bookmark.


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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
    #23578866 - 08/26/16 08:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I wonder what a dose of that nature would do to a person?

I'm thinking something along the lines of:

+0:00 - Eats the mushrooms
+0:10 - "Omg, something is seriously about to go down."
+0:20 - The wave hits like a freight train
+0:30 - The visuals begin, no difference between OEV's and CEV's.
+0:45 - All matter in the human body goes quantum and disappears from our universe.
+2:15 - Come back as Dr. Manhattan...

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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23579287 - 08/26/16 10:23 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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morty422 said:
I wonder what a dose of that nature would do to a person?

I'm thinking something along the lines of:

+0:00:00 - Eats the mushrooms
+0:00:10 - "Omg, something is seriously about to go down."
+0:00:20 - The wave hits like a freight train
+0:00:30 - The visuals begin, no difference between OEV's and CEV's.
+0:00:45 - All matter in the human body goes quantum and disappears from our universe.
+06:02:15 - Come back as Dr. Manhattan...

:nyan:




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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
    #23581489 - 08/26/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Beautiful Morty!!! I have took 15 grams cracker dry before soooooo I know that anything over an OZ dry would b so craaaazzzzzzyy. Yep for sure. NICE though you all! Peace & Love


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