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Pastywhyte
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Maximillion] 1
#23533740 - 08/12/16 06:20 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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If you are working with ms that is to be expected. Often with ms the first flush literally bleeds right into the second.
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morty422
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23533931 - 08/12/16 08:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Maximillion said: Awesome observations! Thank you for your input. I accidently did a few tubs directly to fruiting conditions. Only two of them made it, but I have noticed that the fruit is ripening very randomly in comparison to my other trials. I honestly do have not even had any actual flushes from either tub. As stated by someone above, maybe a gram or two a day in dry weight gets harvested.
Thank you for the kind words, but I would barely call what I said an observation. More like a hypothesis... hehe
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Pastywhyte said: If you are working with ms that is to be expected. Often with ms the first flush literally bleeds right into the second.
This makes perfect sense... As I have seen this with MS - cakes as well as Minitub so far. I think when I isolate some good genetics I will see a difference in pinset as well as flushing patterns.
About to go to work now, I will update with pictures of the tub when I get back home.
Thanks for all the input everyone - it's extremely helpful as always!
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Pastywhyte]
#23533962 - 08/12/16 08:45 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Pastywhyte said: Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.
Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.
Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Perception7]
#23534278 - 08/12/16 10:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perception7 said:
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Pastywhyte said: Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.
Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.
Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.
As Pasty said before-it is not good to do this with certain types of mushroom-however with cubensis-it seems to be just fine.
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Perception7]
#23534367 - 08/12/16 11:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Perception7 said:
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Pastywhyte said: Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.
Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.
Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.
When I first learned about the monotub MP tape over holes at spawning was standard.
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: spacechildo]
#23534630 - 08/12/16 12:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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spacechildo said:
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Perception7 said:
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Pastywhyte said: Spawn runs are faster in lower CO2. I did a spawn run in 4 days by doing spawn run in fruiting conditions and saw pins 10 days after spawning. Lots of people are doing it now. It also seems to it blobs with PE down.
Drawbacks are less even flushing patterns.
Interesting, I may stop taping all of the holes for 5-10 days while the tub is colonizing now and just stick the poly-fil in the same day I put the spawn with the CVG. I used to do this 10 years ago, but stopped cause everyone said FAE wasn't good until full colonization of the substrate.
When I first learned about the monotub MP tape over holes at spawning was standard.
I looked at 2-3 grows I found in the past few years that I saw nice yields from. All of the OP's just poly'd their holes and let them ride. One used the trash bag around the tub. All seemed to crank out a nice yield of mush-so in my opinion, it's personal preference.
IMO, I like the idea of fruiting conditions during spawn run, as you get to dial in your tube before mushrooms are growing (or right as their pinning) and the pinset comes faster than with 0 FAE during spawn run.
My next project will be a side by side comparison from agar. I think that will dictate my road from here on out.
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23536676 - 08/13/16 12:07 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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24 hours since first post and last picture update:::
Here's some updated pictures on the progress! I'm excited to see how much she's grown. Conditions still look great in the tub. I haven't touched or opened the lid since the beginning of the spawn run. I estimate the spawn run will be over in just a few days. It's getting fairly close now and everyday I see exponential growth. I can't wait until I see primordia. It's on to fruiting body > agar after this!
As always, let me know any comments/feedback you have as to the current conditions and improvement. All support is welcome.
Thanks!
Edited by morty422 (08/13/16 12:09 AM)
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23536775 - 08/13/16 01:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It's getting there, I hope you get a good flush. Waiting is the hardest part
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Dafuq is this shit in your title about MS to LC?
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
#23537390 - 08/13/16 09:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Dafuq is this shit in your title about MS to LC?
It's a joke Inocuole... Before it was: "Yes, you have cobweb"
It's changed once again!
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23537902 - 08/13/16 12:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bad use of apostrophe.
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morty422
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
#23538076 - 08/13/16 01:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Inocuole said: Bad use of apostrophe. 
Oops... corrected!
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23538082 - 08/13/16 01:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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.... Fine, I'll take it.
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: Inocuole]
#23545571 - 08/15/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey Everyone,
Update for you. (DAY 7)

I am happy to say that the substrate has been moist during the entire spawn run and that the conditions seen thus far have shown to be ideal.
I have rings around the polyfil areas and the walls are lined with condensation with small trails where water has condensed and fallen.
I feel like I am quite close to 100% and I expect to see pins any day now!
I've got a few different areas where growth looks different. Some areas near the edge of the tub look a bit cotton like. Areas near the center look very rhyzo and aerial. - I imagine it's because of the air exchange that certain portions of my tub are getting. It is currently tucked in a corner, might want to change that when I can.
Anywho. Let me know what you think and all feedback is welcome.
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23551058 - 08/17/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Day 9

Well, she is definitely looking ready to fruit. I'm thinking that I will be waiting on pins to begin dialing in and adjusting the poly.
I'm no pro at cubensis mycelium - so if a veteran could take a look at these and let me know what you think that would be awesome!
I am surprised at how wet the top layer of mycelium has stayed all during this first week of spawn run. It's like I've been misting it daily without taking the lid off at all... I'm beginning to realize why everyone loves these here "mono-tubes".
As always, thanks for the feedback and support.
Happy Shrooming!
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23551077 - 08/17/16 07:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Doesn't look good IMO. Especially the centre of the tub looks very grainy and strange....
I wanna say its the bad lighting in the pic, but I don't think so.
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morty422
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PsilocyBen17 said: Doesn't look good IMO. Especially the centre of the tub looks very grainy and strange....
I wanna say its the bad lighting in the pic, but I don't think so.
Here's some pictures with better lighting.

The first pic is from the center of the tub.
Edited by morty422 (08/17/16 09:03 PM)
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Re: Morty's Monotub - Grow Log [Re: morty422]
#23551468 - 08/17/16 09:57 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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It has a kind of granular look to it. Not sure what thats about
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I know I'm new here...but that shit looks fucking beautiful. Looks super clean.
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Pastywhyte
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Looks good to me too
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