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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Acideater69]
    #23533005 - 08/11/16 09:48 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

madness isnt always associated with trainwrecked failed lives.

it is also associated with genius/creativity, and there is scientific reasoning for this.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: SleepyE] * 1
    #23533008 - 08/11/16 09:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

And the journey begins

Crazy is only shunned if its in a negative aspect, being crazy is a good thing, it's having an open mind, open to all possibilities, as the universe is :wink: not limited to a few perspectives, but all perspectives, you see the world for how it truly is, once you realize the inner workings you can start working with it rather than against it, new worlds open up, law of attraction is just the beginning!


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533045 - 08/11/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

the paranoid mind is just an open mind conditioned to fear, we are all conditioned to fear in some aspect I believe, the fight is overcoming your fears, when that's gone what's left? Love and Light


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533046 - 08/11/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Crazy usually falls under a spectrum that different from person to person based on multiple variables included environment and i assume genetics as well. But on that spectrum it can range anywhere from mostly positive effects on life, too mostly negative effects on life.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533048 - 08/11/16 10:01 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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And the journey begins

Crazy is only shunned if its in a negative aspect, being crazy is a good thing, it's having an open mind, open to all possibilities, as the universe is :wink: not limited to a few perspectives, but all perspectives, you see the world for how it truly is, once you realize the inner workings you can start working with it rather than against it, new worlds open up, law of attraction is just the beginning!




Um yah, i beg to differ. Im sure if you asked anyone suffering from schizophrinia, alzhemiers, psychosis, or dementia, none of them would call it a "good thing".

Sure you get new perspectives, but does that really outweigh the crippiling damage damage it does to nearly every single aspect of your life?


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23533054 - 08/11/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think we all just replicate the universe, a crazy chaotic mess. :smile:


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533056 - 08/11/16 10:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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the paranoid mind is just an open mind conditioned to fear, we are all conditioned to fear in some aspect I believe, the fight is overcoming your fears, when that's gone what's left? Love and Light



i dont believe paranoia can exist without fear.

loss of fear i believe would neutralize almost all negative aspects of schizophrenia. but thats just my opinion.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23533063 - 08/11/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

a lot of the crippling damage is done by our society not understanding the condition well enough to be fair.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533064 - 08/11/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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the paranoid mind is just an open mind conditioned to fear, we are all conditioned to fear in some aspect I believe, the fight is overcoming your fears, when that's gone what's left? Love and Light




Umm even if you get over you fear doesnt mean theres literally no other obstacles. I can get over my fear of a tiger but its still gonna rip me to shreds and the pain will be very real.

Fear is a survival mechanism, and a neccessary one. Paranoia is just uneccessary fear


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Acideater69]
    #23533066 - 08/11/16 10:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Everyone has their own view on what "crazy" is, to me it's just having an open minded view on reality, you're open to all possibilities, to others it could mean some form of illness or disease. It only does damage if you view it as such, having a logical open mind and being crazy is different than someone with a real disease suffering.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Acideater69]
    #23533073 - 08/11/16 10:06 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Fear is a survival mechanism, and a neccessary one. Paranoia is just uneccessary fear



thats what i mean, training your mind not to give into unnecessary fear, it is possible you know? just noone tries it.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533075 - 08/11/16 10:07 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Everyone has their own view on what "crazy" is, to me it's just having an open minded view on reality, you're open to all possibilities, to others it could mean some form of illness or disease. It only does damage if you view it as such, having a logical open mind and being crazy is different than someone with a real disease suffering.




You think being open minded is "crazy"? Well thats certainly odd. When people talk about "crazy", theyre generally reffering to people with mental disorders, not to "open minded people"


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Acideater69]
    #23533081 - 08/11/16 10:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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the paranoid mind is just an open mind conditioned to fear, we are all conditioned to fear in some aspect I believe, the fight is overcoming your fears, when that's gone what's left? Love and Light




I can get over my fear of a tiger but its still gonna rip me to shreds and the pain will be very real.





Only if you believe so, that's still a fear of it

and yes being open minded in society is shunned and coined "crazy" or schizophrenic by most, I don't personally think so is really all I was saying. Like my open minded beliefs on sychronicity and telepathy, one could argue i'm in a psychosis or schizophrenic.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Acideater69]
    #23533086 - 08/11/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

well an example that would be a grey area would be messiah delusions,

its one of the most common symptom of schizophrenics and psychosis and everyone is treated based on this symptom yet this delusion tends to fade on its own in a lot of people.

our society doesnt tolerate delusions like that, and is debatable whether it is a bad thing or not,


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533105 - 08/11/16 10:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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the paranoid mind is just an open mind conditioned to fear, we are all conditioned to fear in some aspect I believe, the fight is overcoming your fears, when that's gone what's left? Love and Light




I can get over my fear of a tiger but its still gonna rip me to shreds and the pain will be very real.





Only if you believe so, that's still a fear of it






Um no.... we have pain recpetors, no matter how much you deny your in pain, youll be in pain


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: OngsiaJW7]
    #23533108 - 08/11/16 10:16 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I think if you trip as often as your friend has been, you might have some issues, but if you stop dosing for a bit, you will go back to normal. 

When I used to trip a lot in the past, I was much more mellow, it's when I am sober that I have issues because of how my brain is wired.  Once a month would be a good amount to trip and not have any issues with weirdness.

I know for myself, tripping about once a month in the past really kept me grounded, and kept depression away, also really helps with anxiety, and there is plenty of good reading on how mushrooms can take stress/anxiety away when used in reasonable doses, and not abused by always trying to have level 4/5 trips once a week.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Lucis]
    #23533117 - 08/11/16 10:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ahah i loved those days where i was having level 5s every week, thems were the days :yesnod:


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Acideater69]
    #23533131 - 08/11/16 10:22 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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well an example that would be a grey area would be messiah delusions,

its one of the most common symptom of schizophrenics and psychosis and everyone is treated based on this symptom yet this delusion tends to fade on its own in a lot of people.

our society doesnt tolerate delusions like that, and is debatable whether it is a bad thing or not,



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the paranoid mind is just an open mind conditioned to fear, we are all conditioned to fear in some aspect I believe, the fight is overcoming your fears, when that's gone what's left? Love and Light




I can get over my fear of a tiger but its still gonna rip me to shreds and the pain will be very real.





Only if you believe so, that's still a fear of it






Um no.... we have pain recpetors, no matter how much you deny your in pain, youll be in pain




Not if the tiger doesn't attack, you missed the point lol. It doesn't HAVE to rip you to shreds. The thought of that is fear based, but yes if it did actually attack you would feel pain :lol:


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: Eclipse3130]
    #23533136 - 08/11/16 10:23 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

What's wrong with being "weird" anyway? And opening up to what you truly believe inside could easily be classified as someone "changing" or becoming "weird" there's a lot of people that coin my beliefs as schizophrenic, when really it's just being open to all possibilities, especially when I feel and experience it first hand, i'm gonna tend to believe it, under the influence or not, if it happened, it happened in your reality.


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Re: Does tripping too often cause mental damage? [Re: SleepyE]
    #23533144 - 08/11/16 10:25 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

schizophrenics have an inability to give up control.

one person on youtube who was posting videos about people on her street gang stalking her and any move they made she was saying "oh there, that person was signalling the other person to approach now, did you see it." and of course its nothing, its just them seeing patterns that arent there.

but they dont want to give up control over the situation. they claim its harassment and that somehow these hundreds of people have dedicated their lives everyday to find out when you come outside of your house so they can stand there and pretend they arent stalking you.

when you ask them, why cant you just ignore them. they say "its impossible to ignore them, if someone was doing it to you it would be psychological torture.

it seems to be very tough to reason with them that they should just let go and allow these people to do it and just not give them the energy.
They will not let go of the fear.

So schizophrenia seems to come down to how stubborn you are and your willingness to let go.


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