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DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana
#23530498 - 08/11/16 07:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Source.
Updated story:
(CNN)Marijuana will remain a Schedule l controlled substance, which declares it has "no currently accepted medical use and a high potential for abuse," the Drug Enforcement Administration said Thursday. This keeps the drug in the same category as heroin, LSD and Ecstasy.
The announcement is in response to two recent petitions asking the agency to reconsider this designation for the benefit of scientific research. The decision is based on a "scientific and medical evaluation" conducted by the US Food and Drug Administration at the request of the DEA.
"The DEA and the FDA continue to believe that scientifically valid and well-controlled clinical trials conducted under investigational new drug (IND) applications are the most appropriate way to conduct research on the medicinal uses of marijuana," said a statement from the DEA.
Critics of the DEA have pointed out that marijuana researchers are caught in a Catch-22. In order to have more research, scientists need to do more studies. But in order to do that, their studies must be approved by federal agencies, including the DEA, the FDA and occasionally the National Institute on Drug Abuse, the largest public funder of marijuana research.
The institute currently contracts with the University of Mississippi, which has held the sole license to grow research-grade marijuana in the entire country since 1968. Any US study that looks at marijuana needs to get its pot from the institute, whose mission isn't to prove efficacy of the drug but rather its harm and abuse potential.
Shackled by politics
"Science has been shackled by politics for decades. Controlled trials couldn't be done without begging NIDA," said Dr. Sue Sisley, a psychiatrist formerly with the University of Arizona. Sisley says she was let go from the university because of her research into marijuana.
As for making more research opportunities available, the DEA announced today that it "will allow additional entities to apply to become registered with DEA so that they may grow and distribute marijuana for FDA-authorized research." The DEA will oversee the new growers.
"This is definitely a triumph for scientists who've been trying to get access to quality study drugs," Sisley said. She believes the change could indicate a moment for cannabis research that could lead to marijuana drugs on the market in the next decade.
The DEA said it has never stood in the way of a researcher conducting an FDA-approved study using marijuana from the NIDA-approved supply of the plant. According to the DEA, as of June, there there were 483 researchers registered with the agency to conduct FDA-approved research with Schedule I controlled substances, not just marijuana.
The agency maintains its "commitment to work together with the FDA and NIDA to identify ways of streamlining research on marijuana and its extracts."
In April, the DEA approved Sisley's proposal to study the effectiveness of marijuana to treat PTSD in veterans. It is the first such study in the country.
Advocates want marijuana to be rescheduled
But some advocates, including researchers and patients, want more. Rep. Earl Blumenauer, D-Oregon, said in a statement, "this decision doesn't go far enough and is further evidence that the DEA doesn't get it. Keeping marijuana at schedule I continues an outdated, failed approach -- leaving patients and marijuana businesses trapped between state and federal laws."
For patients like Charlotte Figi, 9, who was diagnosed with Dravet syndrome when she was 2 years old, the laws mean she can never leave her home state of Colorado. At the most severe, she was experiencing up to 300 grand mal seizures a week. She began taking medical marijuana at age 5, and within a year, she was experiencing only one or two seizures a month.
Her mother, Paige, says the therapy for Charlotte -- and now her sister -- is still a Schedule I drug. "It's illegal and could be removed from us at any time."
More than 100 families like the Figis have moved to Colorado, where medical and recreational marijuana are legal, in search of treatment for their children's severe health problems.
Marijuana as medicine
Charlotte's story was chronicled by CNN's Dr. Sanjay Gupta in the CNN original documentary "Weed." Her success story and CNN's coverage were cited as evidence by proponents of medical marijuana reform in some states.
At least 25 states and the District of Columbia have approved the use of medical marijuana for conditions ranging from epilepsy to arthritis.
However, Rick Doblin, founder of the group Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies, which is financially backing Sisley's study, said that the issue of scheduling will not be an impediment to finding marijuana therapies.
"Rescheduling doesn't make it into a medicine," Doblin said, pointing to his group's work in using MDMA- and LSD-assisted therapies for anxiety and PTSD. "We've shown that we can do research with Schedule I drugs." However, as a Schedule I drug, marijuana will continue to follow strict research protocols, including keeping the product under lock and key.
Doblin's group has been fighting to break the National Institute on Drug Abuse's monopoly on study-grade marijuana for the past 20 years. Of today's announcement, he said, "It's the last political obstacle in front of making marijuana into a medicine."
Edited by trampis (08/11/16 07:32 PM)
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trampis] 1
#23530509 - 08/11/16 07:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana opts for job security instead of common sense
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trampis]
#23530511 - 08/11/16 07:37 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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More states are going to legalize this November, let's see how long the DEA can keep denying the facts of medical marijuana. I bet not too much longer, but it has surely been way overdue.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: tdubz]
#23531010 - 08/11/16 10:21 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Assholes
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Ogla]
#23531335 - 08/11/16 11:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hope those DEA and FDA bastards all get sicknesses easily treatable with cannabis but are stuck in non medical/ rec states and fucked over by the law they guard.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trampis]
#23531344 - 08/11/16 12:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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They're just shooting themselves in the foot by doing this. This is some of the best anti-DEA advertising we have right here, and they're doing it for us
Edited by nooneman (08/11/16 12:06 PM)
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: nooneman]
#23531378 - 08/11/16 12:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good. I'm glad they declined. Weed will be legal regardless of dea eventually, and this is awesome because now we have EVEN MORE evidence on how the dea is corrupt as fuck. Their judgment day is coming. Can't wait to piss on them when they are homeless.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: FractalMind]
#23531496 - 08/11/16 12:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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FractalMind said: Can't wait to piss on them when they are homeless.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Faustoid]
#23531732 - 08/11/16 02:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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In our debate on human rights abuses under the guise of a drug war, we discover that when you ask the oppressor politely to change what they do, they opt to remain in power.
I guess we're supposed to feel lucky they didn't say, "No, and for your troubles, we're making a bunch more plants and medicines illegal."
The big question is why do they bother to announce that they're going to think about it? To give hope?
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Faustoid]
#23532123 - 08/11/16 04:41 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Faustoid said:
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FractalMind said: Can't wait to piss on them when they are homeless.

South Park pee monkey
Was trying to find a gif of that scene but could not, anyways they will be the monkey
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trampis]
#23532364 - 08/11/16 06:09 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good GOD this pisses me off to no end!!!! Fuck the DEA. "Dumb Egomaniacal Assholes." 
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Nature Boy] 1
#23532400 - 08/11/16 06:20 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Just to remind everyone cocaine, unlike CNN has reported, has been a schedule II substance since the Controlled Substance Act.
Looks like they fixed it on their article
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Black_Sunset]
#23532787 - 08/11/16 08:31 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah I think because it's less psychoactive than marijuana, and also because it was once actually used as medicine where as marijuana has just always been illegal.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: tdubz]
#23533712 - 08/12/16 05:59 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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still is used as medicine. buddy of mine was prescribed cocaine eye drops, when he got flash burn welding. that is the only time though I have ever heard of anyone getting it legally though. it worked as a numbing agent but even if you were to down the whole vial it wouldn't have given you a buzz.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trscstghst]
#23533729 - 08/12/16 06:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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tdubz said: Yeah I think because it's less psychoactive than marijuana, and also because it was once actually used as medicine where as marijuana has just always been illegal.
It's because it's an approved drug.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trampis]
#23535782 - 08/12/16 06:44 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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.. fuckin' money... this is why that shit doesnt work. Money defies all logic. You can do anything if you have enough money.
There are a million ways you could could conduct your life. A million ways. But "this" is what's chosen to be called 'normal'..
Maybe it's time to throw away this plan of insanity and start over fresh. As clearly 'your way' doesn't work. Once the slave master, now the slave... and too blind to see it, too willing to go down with the ship...
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Amanita86]
#23539273 - 08/13/16 11:02 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think it's one California's ballot to legalize rec, that is the game changer.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23539292 - 08/13/16 11:08 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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How is this even the DEA's decision. Thought this was the will of the people
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Ogla]
#23539309 - 08/13/16 11:17 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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losfreddy said: How is this even the DEA's decision. Thought this was the will of the people
Lets lynch em, or better yet bust out the guillotines:
Time For Guillotines
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: musiclover420]
#23567968 - 08/23/16 01:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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I think both trump and Hillary have said something along the lines of asking the DEA to take a chill pill in regards to the scheduling of cannabis, which means next to nothing, as they're both conservatively pro drug war, but ya never know
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Crumist]
#23568016 - 08/23/16 01:53 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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More states, more pressure that's the only way.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: tdubz]
#23568323 - 08/23/16 07:46 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Nah, I bet cannabis will be in a lesser schedule in the next 4 years.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Crumist]
#23574585 - 08/24/16 11:43 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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As far as rec med, Hillary has not addressed it, Trump said leave it up to the states.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23574594 - 08/24/16 11:47 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hillary has also said leave it up to the states. So at least both candidates agree on that, thank god.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: nooneman]
#23574601 - 08/24/16 11:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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nooneman said: Hillary has also said leave it up to the states. So at least both candidates agree on that, thank god.
Right, is it on the ballot to legalize in Cali this year?
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: thelastoneleft]
#23574765 - 08/25/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yup, prop 64.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: trampis]
#23575369 - 08/25/16 09:01 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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The founder of MAPS was actually one of the main people who helped get the DEA to overturn the monopoly on marijuana so that MAPS and other groups can run medical trails.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Connoisseur]
#23575426 - 08/25/16 09:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Patience, young Padawans. It's didn't get here overnight and it ain't gonna change over night either.
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Re: DEA declines to loosen restrictions on medical marijuana [Re: Connoisseur]
#23575491 - 08/25/16 09:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago) |
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Yeah, it might be understandable that that federal government refuses to fund something controversial like drug use. But prohibition should be for things far more broadly accepted as immoral and extreme (experiments involving human death). The gov't has done millions of stoners a disservice by permitting them to go around saying "smoking weed cures cancer brah" for how many years? A large impediment to public health is the result
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