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DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday
    #23529994 - 08/11/16 12:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/dea-to-make-long-awaited-marijuana-announcement-thursday-2016-08-10

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Published: Aug 10, 2016 6:24 p.m. ET
Industry has been awaiting decision on possible regulatory changes

Legalized marijuana is nearly a $7 billion-a-year industry in the U.S.

By Kathleen Burke
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A long-awaited decision that could determine the future of the U.S. marijuana industry is expected Thursday.

The Drug Enforcement Administration said late Wednesday that it would publish its response to a congressional petition to reschedule marijuana in the Federal Register on Thursday morning.

The announcement could have far-reaching implications for the industry, particularly if the agency chooses to change the way it regulates marijuana. Marijuana is currently filed under Schedule I, meaning it has a high potential for abuse and has no accepted medical value.

The DEA’s response could move the drug to a less-restrictive schedule, which would allow more research under continued regulation. It could also deschedule it, which would completely remove it from the agency’s regulation, or take no action. The DEA’s email didn't indicate which course the agency might select.

If marijuana were to be rescheduled, the current infrastructure within states that have legalized the drug for medical purposes could be completely changed. For the past 20 years, states that have legalized medical marijuana have done so outside the workings of the pharmaceutical industry, using doctor’s “recommendations” instead of prescriptions and providing it through dispensaries rather than pharmacies.

Rescheduling medical marijuana could mean it would be treated like Vicodin, OxyContin or Adderall and be subject to the standard prescription process.

Half the states in the U.S. have legalized cannabis for medical use, while four states and the District of Columbia have legalized recreational marijuana. Those states have operated independently of federal agencies with regard to their marijuana industries, which has contributed to some regulatory issues regarding pesticide use and the use of medical marijuana to treat minors.

A relaxing of regulations could bridge the divide between state and federal governments. It could also make the nearly $7 billion industry more attractive to established companies in the health care space.




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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: 404]
    #23530008 - 08/11/16 12:48 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm just gonna go ahead and shit in one hand, and shit in the other.  That's how that saying goes right?  Seems fitting.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: vandago]
    #23530018 - 08/11/16 01:00 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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vandago said:
I'm just gonna go ahead and shit in one hand, and shit in the other.





That's exactly how the saying goes. Let's see some follow through on this statement. 

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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: vandago]
    #23530021 - 08/11/16 01:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

dude, you're the second person tonight to talk about shitting in your hand. someone else mentioned shitting in one hand and wishing in the other to see which one filled up first.



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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: 404]
    #23530026 - 08/11/16 01:08 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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    #23530072 - 08/11/16 01:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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dude, you're the second person tonight to talk about shitting in your hand. someone else mentioned shitting in one hand and wishing in the other to see which one filled up first.



:wellholyshit:





I'm not even gonna wish in the other, just shit in both, because illegal or controlled by big pharma......either way is shit.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: 404]
    #23530316 - 08/11/16 05:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They rejected the proposals.  Stupid fuckers.  God I hate how stupid fucking people are.  "No medical purpose", but they've proven it cures cancer.  Fucking stupid assholes.

I get really pissed when I see shit like this.  Fuck big pharma.

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/10/489509471/dea-rejects-attempt-to-loosen-federal-restrictions-on-marijuana


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23530338 - 08/11/16 05:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Marijuana is considered a Schedule I drug under the Controlled Substances Act, alongside heroin and LSD




I cringe every time


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    #23530351 - 08/11/16 05:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

This has to do with the way the law is written.

The common interpretation of "Established medical use" is a large and well-controlled clinical trial. This doesn't exist for MJ.

When considered in the context of all other drugs, it makes sense that you can't run around claiming magical curative properties for every known condition for a substance of your choosing.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23531024 - 08/11/16 10:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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They rejected the proposals.  Stupid fuckers.  God I hate how stupid fucking people are.  "No medical purpose", but they've proven it cures cancer.  Fucking stupid assholes.

I get really pissed when I see shit like this.  Fuck big pharma.

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/10/489509471/dea-rejects-attempt-to-loosen-federal-restrictions-on-marijuana




Cannabis does not cure cancer, at least not well enough In Vitro. It does however seem to trigger Apoptosis, or scheduled cellular death at the very least in petri dishes. cancer exists because in short, some cells refuse to die, keep growing and slip under the radar of the immune system

I haven't been keeping up with the studies being conducted with cannabinoids and their relation to cancer, so i'm not currently aware of any studies that have been conducted on the living body. I've been interested in their potential in treating alzheimer's however, as they seem to prevent the build up of beta-amaloid plaques, as this particular condition is now affecting my family. I guess i'm getting besides the point as it treats pain, Multiple sclerosis and a host of of other things... so yeah, the medical potential is definitely there and i agree it's really stupid that this is not moving forward.

Considering the DEA wouldn't have jobs if drugs were legal and the pharmaceutical and jail systems in america wouldn't have as much money flowing through them I'm not really surprised nothing happened on this matter.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: 404]
    #23533565 - 08/12/16 03:02 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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ShroomerInTheRye said:
They rejected the proposals.  Stupid fuckers.  God I hate how stupid fucking people are.  "No medical purpose", but they've proven it cures cancer.  Fucking stupid assholes.

I get really pissed when I see shit like this.  Fuck big pharma.

http://www.npr.org/2016/08/10/489509471/dea-rejects-attempt-to-loosen-federal-restrictions-on-marijuana




Cannabis does not cure cancer, at least not well enough In Vitro. It does however seem to trigger Apoptosis, or scheduled cellular death at the very least in petri dishes. cancer exists because in short, some cells refuse to die, keep growing and slip under the radar of the immune system

I haven't been keeping up with the studies being conducted with cannabinoids and their relation to cancer, so i'm not currently aware of any studies that have been conducted on the living body. I've been interested in their potential in treating alzheimer's however, as they seem to prevent the build up of beta-amaloid plaques, as this particular condition is now affecting my family. I guess i'm getting besides the point as it treats pain, Multiple sclerosis and a host of of other things... so yeah, the medical potential is definitely there and i agree it's really stupid that this is not moving forward.

Considering the DEA wouldn't have jobs if drugs were legal and the pharmaceutical and jail systems in america wouldn't have as much money flowing through them I'm not really surprised nothing happened on this matter.



It is a very anecdotal issue, in terms of all the claims that it fights cancer, but there have been a substantial number of cases wherein "Rick Simpson oil" has been claimed to have facilitated the shrinking of tumors and areas of higher cellular growth than normal (a common side-effect of both cancer and [self-induced, of course] obesity). Neither the healthy shrinking of deposits of fat cells nor the shrinking of deposits of cancerous cells should be considered a bad thing. Naturally, everybody has cancer cells in their bodies, but if there are natural means of preventing them from metastasizing and even reducing the numbers of those that have metastasized, why not pursue it? It may be in conjunction with other means of fighting cancer, yes, but why not pursue it if there's the chance it can minimize the damage to the healthy cells done by common avenues of treatment?
A classmate of mine died of severe colon cancer that had spread to the lower half of his body, essentially, and his mom still tells me that she wished there had been the option to give him cannabis oil. She said that the few times he smoked pot with her, he was his old self again without the pain and the misery he was suffering through. I don't know if cannabis oil can really help the way they say it does, but because of what my friend James went through, I think it's at least worth trying, if not in itself then alongside other treatments. At the very least it can stimulate appetite and kill nausea which are both killed and caused, respectively, by the most common of cancer treatments out there.
I don't disrespect what you're saying, 404, there's still a lot of proof to be gathered. I just think it should be an option available to people and I think it can have a tremendous benefit, even alongside the regular treatment options.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: Camwritesgonzo]
    #23533580 - 08/12/16 03:17 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

>>I don't disrespect what you're saying, 404, there's still a lot of proof to be gathered. I just think it should be an option available to people and I think it can have a tremendous benefit, even alongside the regular treatment options.

Hey, I never said otherwise. In fact, if you look at the last sentence of the paragraph above the very last, I pretty much said something similar to what you said here. I agree it should be an option, but I also think there needs to be more studies conducted. Ultimately, I think your body is mostly a medical issue and you should not be kept from putting what you want especially in the case of cannabis in it if you so choose.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: 404]
    #23533621 - 08/12/16 04:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

One thing I think we can all agree on is that marijuana really doesn't belong in the same category as heroin or LSD.


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Re: DEA to make long-awaited marijuana announcement Thursday [Re: ShroomerInTheRye]
    #23533628 - 08/12/16 04:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

i don't think lsd or weed belong in the same category as heroin, LSD isn't known to be habit forming nor has it really ever caused a direct death. all three have medical applications.


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