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Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this?
    #23529806 - 08/10/16 09:46 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Albino penis envy syringe. Is this fine? I was expecting to see black spores , this looks like an abort?


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23529818 - 08/10/16 09:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Aborts are mushrooms not spores.

Albino spores should be clear, so no.
Leucistic spores should still be black.

That looks like bacteria. Seeing as it's over a year old I'm not surprised to see that.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: GreenRabbit]
    #23529841 - 08/10/16 10:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

:rofl:  Looks like an abort.

But yeah that looks gross, albino spores should be a big clear gooey looking lump, not... that.  If you said that was a columbian rust spore syringe, I might believe you though.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23529846 - 08/10/16 11:00 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Man WTF .. what do you suggest I do about it? Just got it in the mail..


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23529871 - 08/10/16 11:13 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Try it and see what happens I guess.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23529879 - 08/10/16 11:18 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Contact whoever sent it, i bet theyll send another. If you are dead set on using it id go from agar and isolate something clean other than that idk what to say. Also dont shake it before you use it on the agar id want that moved as little as possible.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: KThunderland]
    #23529913 - 08/10/16 11:34 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks all, Will try a test cake tomorrow and see if it contams.

Haven't attempted agar yet. Haven't dedicated the time on research yet.


If this is bad, its two in 3 weeks from different vendors :frown:


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23529938 - 08/10/16 11:51 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Id try it on a 1/2 pint of grain ( people hate popcorn but its not that bad, the waxy cuticle of corn prevents the sticy mess a lot of new comers get when 1st trying grains. I simmer in a pc or litterally 5 mins and cover and doak for 24 hours..simmer again for another 10 mins and drain it while hot , dump that into a towell and use the towel to pour the corn into jars.) then..maybe even a few if one does work g2g that to more much larger jars, if your using the pf tek then juat go for it, if you pm me your address i can have a print out to you in a few weeks you can clean and pc that syringe and make another out of the print . let me know how this goes.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: KThunderland]
    #23529941 - 08/10/16 11:52 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Im keep an eye on this thread keep us informed or i will bump this in 5 years .


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: KThunderland]
    #23529945 - 08/10/16 11:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Maybe post a few more pics if you can ...i would kinda love to see that under a microscope lol


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: KThunderland]
    #23529962 - 08/11/16 12:05 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks man, I appreciate it! I'll take another picture when I get home and gladly give you an address and pay it forward if I get a nice print.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23529968 - 08/11/16 12:14 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hah, nice print, APE. :rofl:


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23530160 - 08/11/16 03:06 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hah, nice print, APE. :rofl:




I'M A NOOB, I GET IT

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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23530166 - 08/11/16 03:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

APE doesn't print.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23530245 - 08/11/16 04:25 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So how do you make a spore syringe of ape?


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23530259 - 08/11/16 04:36 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I believe vendors use a centrifuge, you can try to take gill swabs but need to test one on agar to see if the spores are viable


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: NDStepp84]
    #23530342 - 08/11/16 05:39 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I recently posted the same thing about my ape syringe. Looks identical. I assumed it started to germinate.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23530344 - 08/11/16 05:43 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Boogens]
    #23531021 - 08/11/16 10:24 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Just inoculated a half pint BRF. Will keep updated!


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23531037 - 08/11/16 10:27 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Hope you used sterile techniques not just wiped the syringe on your top or what ever your doing there


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23531044 - 08/11/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Okay so, once or twice, I've seen APE work on cakes.  The other dozen times... it always looked like a bunch of sad dry aborts.  APE is a very thirsty variety of cubensis, and cakes don't provide much water.  Good luck at any rate, but I would really either work on getting the APE to a bulk substrate or do a Muda bottle grow, agar, something.  APE syringes are dirty as all hell, very bacterial because of how they're made.  Should hopefully work on a cake but you won't be able to use it on grains or other grain-based substrate.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: mrmazdarx9]
    #23531045 - 08/11/16 10:29 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hope you used sterile techniques not just wiped the syringe on your top or what ever your doing there




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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23531052 - 08/11/16 10:30 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Hope you used sterile techniques not just wiped the syringe on your top or what ever your doing there




Think that's just the luer lock plug..  Still.  I wouldn't be touching that much of my syringe on non-sterile material.  Should really only be opening and using it inside a SAB, and then put it back inside a container or bag so minimal shit lands on it.  I mean, sometimes people use one spore syringe per grow, or even more than one syringe for an entire grow, and I guess you can be careless then, but eventually a spore syringe lasts you forever because you never use more than a couple drops out of it to make infinite inoculations, so you'd want to take better care of it so it's still viable a year or two down the line.

At least without like, cleaning the shit out of the outside of the syringe, which could lead to accidents involving compromising the whole thing.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23531060 - 08/11/16 10:32 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Ah right thought for a second he was shooting up in the belly :lol:


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23531067 - 08/11/16 10:33 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Okay so, once or twice, I've seen APE work on cakes.  The other dozen times... it always looked like a bunch of sad dry aborts.  APE is a very thirsty variety of cubensis, and cakes don't provide much water.  Good luck at any rate, but I would really either work on getting the APE to a bulk substrate or do a Muda bottle grow, agar, something.  APE syringes are dirty as all hell, very bacterial because of how they're made.  Should hopefully work on a cake but you won't be able to use it on grains or other grain-based substrate.




Only using this one cake to see how it responds before shooting up 6 jars of WBS for my 66qt mono.. Just lost 12 jars on two occasions using a bad syringe. Lots of wasted time and money BUT a good learning experience.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23531077 - 08/11/16 10:34 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Do not shoot APE spores directly to WBS.  The cake is no indication of whether or not those spores will do well on grain.  Cakes can work past a certain amount of bacteria, but in my experience, and tons of others, the bacteria in APE syringes often completely wrecks all the grain you throw it at until you clean it up on agar.

Mine was so dirty, I couldn't germinate it on agar, I had to germinate it on grain, then drop a colonized (but bacterial) grain on agar, and transfer clean growth away from the bacteria.  None of the grain jars would ever finish if left to their own devices, they'd just get steadily more slimey and gross looking, wouldn't recover from shakes, etc.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23531112 - 08/11/16 10:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the knowledge drop.  Well I might just try it on a couple jars just for fun and see what happens, I'll keep the syringe around for when I study agar.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: ijustwantobehuman]
    #23531531 - 08/11/16 01:05 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Just be sure to save some of it.  Any way you can salvage it, it's a great variety to grow, it's just.. very finicky.


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Re: Is it normal for spore syringes to look like this? [Re: Inocuole]
    #23533084 - 08/11/16 10:10 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

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Do not shoot APE spores directly to WBS.  The cake is no indication of whether or not those spores will do well on grain.  Cakes can work past a certain amount of bacteria, but in my experience, and tons of others, the bacteria in APE syringes often completely wrecks all the grain you throw it at until you clean it up on agar.

Mine was so dirty, I couldn't germinate it on agar, I had to germinate it on grain, then drop a colonized (but bacterial) grain on agar, and transfer clean growth away from the bacteria.  None of the grain jars would ever finish if left to their own devices, they'd just get steadily more slimey and gross looking, wouldn't recover from shakes, etc.


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