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OfflineAsuraS
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Re: PAN [Re: Blue Helix] * 1
    #25483811 - 09/23/18 07:37 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I did the cold shocking. Can't remember if mary did, too. It just delayed the overlay for me. And caused lots of bruising.


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Re: PAN [Re: Asura] * 1
    #25483966 - 09/23/18 08:38 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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I did the cold shocking. Can't remember if mary did, too. It just delayed the overlay for me. And caused lots of bruising.




Well, let me mark that one off too then.  I don't think it'll work for me if it hasn't worked for you all.  This is really strange.  There has to be something.  I wondering if just letting the mycelium go a bit longer in the bags might help.  Say it colonizes in a week (which it definitely does), but what if we let it keep going for say another week before we cased...


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Re: PAN [Re: Blue Helix] * 1
    #25484020 - 09/23/18 09:04 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

I had trays that I let consolidate for 5 days after the mycelium had completely colonized the sub. Still overlay. Maybe go longer in the hopes it will tire out?

I've been working with isolating the wispy growth on agar. Once I get a plate of nothing but
wispy growth (if I do) I will grow that out and see what happens.

Edit: Oh, other stuff that was tried was knocking the overlay back using a q-tip and spraying
with hydrogen peroxide :lol:


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Re: PAN [Re: Asura] * 1
    #25484162 - 09/23/18 10:18 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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Asura said:
I had trays that I let consolidate for 5 days after the mycelium had completely colonized the sub. Still overlay. Maybe go longer in the hopes it will tire out?

I've been working with isolating the wispy growth on agar. Once I get a plate of nothing but
wispy growth (if I do) I will grow that out and see what happens.

Edit: Oh, other stuff that was tried was knocking the overlay back using a q-tip and spraying
with hydrogen peroxide :lol:





This is so crazy because I used to say Pan Cyans could NOT overlay, and until this, I never had one do it hardly.  Most of them grew through the casing fully, but the growth in the casing was very wispy stuff that supported pins.  This is really strange because the growth is like cubensis overlay.


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Re: PAN [Re: Blue Helix] * 1
    #25484551 - 09/24/18 07:17 AM (5 years, 4 months ago)

When I first grew pans about 6 years ago, the mycelium was very light and wispy. Had a very
delicate look to it. Whatever I have now is very aggressive, even on agar. Thick and cottony
and it grows like a tank. A trait one might want for cubes, but not here. I am trying to isolate
the wispy stuff on agar and hopefully get a decent grow.


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Re: PAN [Re: Asura]
    #25486812 - 09/24/18 09:56 PM (5 years, 4 months ago)

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When I first grew pans about 6 years ago, the mycelium was very light and wispy. Had a very
delicate look to it. Whatever I have now is very aggressive, even on agar. Thick and cottony
and it grows like a tank. A trait one might want for cubes, but not here. I am trying to isolate
the wispy stuff on agar and hopefully get a decent grow.




Well, the irony of this is that you are trying to isolate what every single pan cyans projection on agar has always been... until now.  There is something strange going on with Ryche Hawkeye's Jamaicans.  It's nothing bad, mind you, but it will take something to counter the overlaying tendency.  I've even considered maybe drying out the casing a bit to prevent the heavy overlay.  That seems very counterintuitive, but it might be what is needed here.  It's almost like the mycelium just isn't getting the signal "Hey, this isn't substrate, so prepare yourself for pinning".  I never seen anything like it.


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Re: PAN [Re: Blue Helix]
    #27192880 - 02/08/21 12:47 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Blue helix sorry for bringing up the old thread..
Im a newb and the fans of u and some others here,
I would like to know why did my agar wedge did not growth bigger on LC, what is the possibility for the cause.
My LC ingredients in 250ml water and 10g Malt extract not LME.
Could that be the issue?


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Re: PAN [Re: Bart84]
    #27192922 - 02/08/21 01:31 AM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Why did you use so much malt?

Thats waaay to much malt.


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Re: PAN [Re: Puduwoke]
    #27193671 - 02/08/21 12:38 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

I read it somewhere even i tried cut the malt half its still not working, or the pile water are not suit in this case? Idk 😔


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Re: PAN [Re: Bart84]
    #27193689 - 02/08/21 12:50 PM (2 years, 11 months ago)

Woah that was an old thread to bump.

1g LME to 500ml of water...

Check some of the active and current LC thread.


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