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Panaeolus Cinctulus?
    #23529030 - 08/10/16 06:04 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



Growing in a field of horse manure. Is my identification correct? Active? If its panaeolus Cinctulus are they always active?


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23529078 - 08/10/16 06:14 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Spore print them to be extra sure though, spore print should be jet black.

Also some clearer pics would be nice, looks promising though.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: Lucis]
    #23529347 - 08/10/16 07:29 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)


I'm not sure if the bigger white one is the same kind and more mature or a whole different species.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23529375 - 08/10/16 07:39 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm beginning a spore print now and will post it tomorrow


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23529406 - 08/10/16 07:49 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

they do look promising as previously mentioned. If the spore print is jet black it would be correct in assuming they are cincts. :smile:


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23529413 - 08/10/16 07:50 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How big were they? these pics have no reference size...in my experience, Panaelous Foes, tend to be smaller, and cinctulus tend to be larger, with a much more sturdy stipe.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #23529424 - 08/10/16 07:54 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23529647 - 08/10/16 08:56 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

dime size, were they fully matured when you harvested, cause sthe caps will continue to open after harvesting...to me, without spore print...i would say Pan. Foenesecci....but thats pre-mature guess, just off of what i have personally seen.

However that brown bring around the cap is very defined...which also points to cinctulus, idk i guess time will tell.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #23530188 - 08/11/16 03:40 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)



I don't think they were fully matur because the caps were not open all the way, I saw another sprouting right next to them. I figure if I id these I can know where to look and maybe find more.
Also the caps did open more overnight.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23530578 - 08/11/16 08:03 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

So the mushroom that is whiter in color I am still wondering if it is a completely different kind. Could someone please give me their I put on they as well as the indentification now that I have a spore print. Thanks alot


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23530616 - 08/11/16 08:15 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Nice, yeah that's jet black for you.  I have observed the specimens which have been in the sun the longest, fade to the whitish color of one of your specimens pictured.

If you continue down the path of being a psychonaut, then you will realize after a while that cincts and foes feel different upon handling, with cincts being much firmer/meatier, and foes being weaker in structure.  Also cincts stem tends to stain a reddish/brown color on the stem, while foes have more of a silky white stem which is not as meaty.  Also, stems on cincts often have visible lines which sometimes twist a little bit, while foes tend to just be smooth, but with all fungi there will be exceptions to certain rules, this is why spore printing a new collection is paramount in forming an educated guess as to what genera/species you're observing.


Also, word every hunter should live by, which are "when in doubt, throw it out".  Don't be in a rush to consume anything without having a proper identification made, there will always be more mushrooms, but there is only one you, so just be careful, there are no stupid questions when trying to learn about something.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: Lucis]
    #23530685 - 08/11/16 08:35 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks fennario, are you saying that all three of these are active and this is 100% Cinctulus?
Also are foe Cinctulus poisonous?


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23530784 - 08/11/16 09:04 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Also do these need to be dried out befor eating?


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23530998 - 08/11/16 10:18 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

P. Cinctulus is a very weak species (low concentration of psilocybin, if that is your target) psilocybin begins to break down when it comes in contact with oxygen, depending on your desired experience, you would need more...also for this species...fresh is best. As always wait for a T.I. to chime in before consumption. Personally I would wait to find a more worth while species, but its your call


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #23531590 - 08/11/16 01:24 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

T.i. Can you give the final decision on eating.

Darn I wish they were potent. Anyway it may be the best I can find here. I'll keep trying though.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23532814 - 08/11/16 08:42 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you around the mid atlantic northish?


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TheShroomanizer]
    #23533364 - 08/11/16 11:53 PM (7 years, 5 months ago)

beautiful specimens. i'd call those cincts.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: Silky_Johnson]
    #23533576 - 08/12/16 03:12 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

It's Panaeolus cinctulus.

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psilocybin begins to break down when it comes in contact with oxygen



This is true for psilocin, but not psilocybin.

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also for this species...fresh is best



...Which therefore is not true since P. cinctulus cointain almost no psilocin at all.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: knarkkorven]
    #23533610 - 08/12/16 03:51 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

I'm in the northeast USA. I've read some people say cincts are strong some say they are weak. I'm not sure what to think.... Thanks for the help


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23533653 - 08/12/16 04:38 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

They are very weak


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23533788 - 08/12/16 06:58 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

How many would you need for level 2 or 3


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: TubularPsycadelia]
    #23533802 - 08/12/16 07:10 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

you would need 8+ grams of dried cincts to trip face.


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Re: Panaeolus Cinctulus? [Re: doctorghosty]
    #23533808 - 08/12/16 07:13 AM (7 years, 5 months ago)

Dosage:
Lvl.1  1.2g dried
Lvl.2  2.2g dried
Lvl.3  3.8g dried
Lvl.4  6.0g dried
Lvl.5  8.0g dried

if you're measuring fresh, multiply those weights by 10


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