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Bumholio
What's the craic



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Re: Small Pins [Re: Mateja]
#25594717 - 11/05/18 07:36 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bumholio said: I would pick them, dunk 8 hrs, no roll, back in to fc. Continue til it don't fruit no more.
Is there any harm in not being able to pick all the small pins that did not mature. If they are not opened up? I could probably get them with a tweezer or something just don't want to destroy the mycelium. And, I don't want to stunt the second flush, if that is a possibility.
Still figuring this thing out.
Thanks for the help!
8 hours is not enough to hydrate the cake fully. 12-24h is better
I'll not argue with you but I've done 8 and it's been fine, also tonight I did one for about 3 and it's back in the fc so I'll see how it turns out
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Mateja


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Re: Small Pins [Re: Bumholio] 1
#25594719 - 11/05/18 07:39 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Bumholio
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Mateja]
#25594727 - 11/05/18 07:45 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Here is how I know exactly what happens during a dunk https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24739690
TL;DR jk you the main
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Smooby2
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Any opinions? I'm new to afar. My first attempt.
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butterflyaway
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Mateja]
#25595032 - 11/05/18 10:48 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Thanks — I soaked them overnight. Hoping for a good second flush.
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Enkidu
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Smooby2]
#25595042 - 11/05/18 10:56 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Smooby2 said: Any opinions? I'm new to afar. My first attempt.

Woah
My opinion is try again 
How did you inoculate that plate I wonder...?
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Enkidu
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butterflyaway said: Thanks — I soaked them overnight. Hoping for a good second flush.
I'll be hoping for you as well
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Smooby2
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Enkidu]
#25595225 - 11/06/18 04:05 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enkidu said:
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Smooby2 said: Any opinions? I'm new to afar. My first attempt.

Woah
My opinion is try again 
How did you inoculate that plate I wonder...?
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Enkidu said:
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Smooby2 said: Any opinions? I'm new to afar. My first attempt.

Woah
My opinion is try again 
How did you inoculate that plate I wonder...?
I did inoculate in a sab with inoculation loop and spore print. The rest of my plates showed a very wispy mold that grew extremely fast. This has taken almost two weeks to get to this point showing pes size growth in several areas after 3-4 days. I'm learning things as I see it. Was just hopeful this wasn't mold. I'll have a flow hood by Thursday. That should help. I am aware I should try again. I just want to know what's going on here for future reference.
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Ferather
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Mateja]
#25595320 - 11/06/18 06:02 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Here is how I know exactly what happens during a dunk https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24739690
So the cakes absorb 20-36% of their original weight, after 24 hours, that's quite a bit. Does this improve after 36 and 48 hours? Might need less total dunks?
I dunk in CaCO3 water to remove waste and hydrate the cake.
Have you tried lime (CaCO3) also?
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SunnyDayze
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Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ferather]
#25595325 - 11/06/18 06:05 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Just changing the subject (line) 😝
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: SunnyDayze]
#25595571 - 11/06/18 08:32 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Mateah said: Here is how I know exactly what happens during a dunk https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24739690
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SunnyDayze said: Just changing the subject (line) 😝
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teladi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25596284 - 11/06/18 02:17 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I have one monotub that I'm experimenting with a different filter material. As such, I've been fretting over it more than my other active MP based monos. Substrate is 12 litres (6:8), 2.5 inches deep, coir with no casing and no liner. Substrate surface has been drying out while I've been trying to dial it in, and I have had to do a few mistings. Substrate has pulled away from the sides about 1 mm. Coir was at field capacity when put out, and colonization was quick enough.
I just discovered about half an inch deep of water throughout the entire tub, about 30ml of yellowish liquid that I pulled out with a syringe. Has anyone encountered such a thing?
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Enkidu
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Smooby2]
#25596418 - 11/06/18 02:59 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Smooby2 said:
I did inoculate in a sab with inoculation loop and spore print. The rest of my plates showed a very wispy mold that grew extremely fast. This has taken almost two weeks to get to this point showing pes size growth in several areas after 3-4 days. I'm learning things as I see it. Was just hopeful this wasn't mold. I'll have a flow hood by Thursday. That should help. I am aware I should try again. I just want to know what's going on here for future reference.
I could be wrong but that doesn't look like myc to me.
A sab should be fine but I've never personally took print to agar, I've always done tissue sample to agar.
Not sure the difference.
Again, maybe im wrong, but none of that looks like the spidery rhizomorphic mycellium growth you would expect
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Enkidu
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: teladi]
#25596428 - 11/06/18 03:03 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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teladi said: I have one monotub that I'm experimenting with a different filter material. As such, I've been fretting over it more than my other active MP based monos. Substrate is 12 litres (6:8), 2.5 inches deep, coir with no casing and no liner. Substrate surface has been drying out while I've been trying to dial it in, and I have had to do a few mistings. Substrate has pulled away from the sides about 1 mm. Coir was at field capacity when put out, and colonization was quick enough.
I just discovered about half an inch deep of water throughout the entire tub, about 30ml of yellowish liquid that I pulled out with a syringe. Has anyone encountered such a thing?
You sure sub was field capacity?
At the end, save some coir in the tub, add a bit extra verm and apply it as a top layer. Might help with the top drying out.
The pooling water sounds like it was beyond field capacity, weird it's then drying out unless the top is drying out or wasn't mixed well...?
Maybe bump the temp up a bit or it could be the filter material is allowing too much fae I would guess, maybe try to limit fae more and keep humidity higher with lower fae is my guess
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Mateja


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Ferather said:
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Mateah said: Here is how I know exactly what happens during a dunk https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24739690
So the cakes absorb 20-36% of their original weight, after 24 hours, that's quite a bit. Does this improve after 36 and 48 hours? Might need less total dunks?
I dunk in CaCO3 water to remove waste and hydrate the cake.
Have you tried lime (CaCO3) also?

No haven't tried lime or anything like that before. I haven't seen anything that shows that lime increases effectiveness of the grow
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generalsherman55
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What's an ideal temp for coir when mixing gen 2s for a mono tub?
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Failboat
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Room temperature.
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Smooby2
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Re: Small Pins [Re: Enkidu]
#25597249 - 11/06/18 08:57 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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I know it doesn't have that rhizmorphic growth you want. It was just so different in its growth from the mold that struck all the o the other plates, growing very slowly. I saw some growth at day 3 and the pic was taken on day 11. I'm sure it's not myc or at least any I would want to transfer. Just curious what is was for future reference. I just didn't PC my agar long enough I think was the problem. 15 minutes at 15 psi as per the instructions on the bag of MEA. Tomorrow I am starting over in front of my freshly built flow hood. Hopefully will have some better pics in a few weeks.
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DreamReality
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Smooby2]
#25597320 - 11/06/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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That small pins thing was bugging me.
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teladi
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Enkidu]
#25597560 - 11/07/18 12:19 AM (5 years, 2 months ago) |
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Enkidu said:
You sure sub was field capacity?
At the end, save some coir in the tub, add a bit extra verm and apply it as a top layer. Might help with the top drying out.
The pooling water sounds like it was beyond field capacity, weird it's then drying out unless the top is drying out or wasn't mixed well...?
Maybe bump the temp up a bit or it could be the filter material is allowing too much fae I would guess, maybe try to limit fae more and keep humidity higher with lower fae is my guess
Yep, very sure it was at field capacity. I would've expected colonization to have halted or slowed significantly had it not been. It isn't my first mono, but it's the first time I've seen this.
My filters were definitely allowing too much FAE. I'm thinking that it may have been excess condensation that pooled; 30 ml / 1 oz of fluid pulled out of it. It's taken me a week to get it dialed in.
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