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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LizardWizard]
    #25539094 - 10/15/18 12:47 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Just switched to telephone brand.

How the hell do you guys manage to mess with agar that thick.  I'm to the point where I'm doing 1g per 100ml and it's still harder than it was when I was doing 1.5gs to 100ml with my old agar.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #25539095 - 10/15/18 12:48 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I use 2g for 100mL should be more firm than Jello.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25539098 - 10/15/18 12:51 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

derp i do 10 per 500.. i think.. shit i need to make agar i forgot:facepalm3:

first time i used telephone is was like a gummy bear:rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25539100 - 10/15/18 12:52 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Jeez okay so telephone is just the badass brand of agar got it :rockon:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
    #25539125 - 10/15/18 01:02 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

It's bulletproof at 2% and personally i think it's shit.  I've gotten it down to 1.25% and it's plenty firm but loses some of the elasticity that I like in other brands.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
    #25539139 - 10/15/18 01:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Should be more firm than a breast implant



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25539163 - 10/15/18 01:18 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I use the NOW brand agar, it's not as clear as the BD agar at work but it works like a charm. I'm gonna have to snag some of the agar from work again, that stuff is crystal clear.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateah]
    #25539176 - 10/15/18 01:24 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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How do APE spores end up in a syringe when those APE fruits don't produce spores that produce APE fruits? We all now APE fruits produce some kind of Leucistic fruits when their spores are germinated. But where do APE spores relly come from? Who can PROVE that the stuff that germinates and produces APE fruits really came from simply just one such APE fruit?

Hope everyone understand my question. I'm just curious




APE obviously does produce spores. And APE actually does drop spores, but not in the timeline of traditional cubes. The gill surface is super reduced and the absolute spore numbers are far less than traditional cubes, so it's not likely to get a viable print very often.

PE doesn't really drop spores, but PF Albino (traditional cube) does, and that's what was crossed to make APE.

As far as getting the spores into a syringe, I believe cronicr and others have said they use some sort of centrifuge to spin a liquid mixture and separate mushroom matter from spores and then strain it. That's why PE/APE syringes are apparently notoriously dirty.

I'm not really sure what you mean by APE fruits don't produce spores that produce APE fruits? That's not true at all. APE isn't leucistic. It's a true albino, I believe, although given it's a cross and not completely stable, I think you can still get a non-albino fruit sometimes.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25539191 - 10/15/18 01:36 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I've been seeing a suction cup effect with the firmer the agar is. Makes it annoying to pick up wedges.

Just picked up 200lbs of wheat for $27 :woot:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25539196 - 10/15/18 01:38 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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I'm not really sure what you mean by APE fruits don't produce spores that produce APE fruits? That's not true at all.




we have a good amount of documentation. swabbed apes can throw non ape fruits. or many of us have contaminated our swabs which sounds unlikely.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25539197 - 10/15/18 01:40 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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stareatclouds said:
I'm not really sure what you mean by APE fruits don't produce spores that produce APE fruits? That's not true at all.




we have a good amount of documentation. swabbed apes can throw non ape fruits. or many of us have contaminated our swabs which sounds unlikely.




Well yes, it's a cross/hybrid, which isn't completely stabilized. The way he phrased it reads like APE spores can't or don't ever produce traditional APE fruits, which is obviously not accurate. But yeah, there's always potential for different phenotypes with enough heterozygosity in the lineage. I'm not well versed on hybridization and I don't recall which F generation of APE was released, but here's a cool thread showing the different fruits early generations of APE produced.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25539201 - 10/15/18 01:46 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I have an ape clone that favors the pf albino pheno, it did not drop spores...glad I slanted that one


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
    #25539228 - 10/15/18 01:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Left,

That's awesome. I've only gotten regular APE fruits, but the majority of my grows were clones and from maybe 2-3 MS grows.

Another cool piece of information:

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the white (clear) spores produce pure albino flushes every time. the pigmented spores produce a spectrum of pigmented and nonpigmented fruits. after watching several other people grow them it's becoming apparent that the lighter the spores are in color, the more prone they are to producing albinos. the darkest spores can produce albinos too, but they tend to skip a few generations.





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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25539242 - 10/15/18 02:07 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Those were the 1st ape I grew out... They were a pretty mushroom but I ate them lol! Only had 1 flush on the cakes then they went to the dump


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25539284 - 10/15/18 02:33 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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stareatclouds said: I think you can still get a non-albino fruit sometimes.




But it's like EVERY time? :shrug:

I've never seen APE come from a swab in any grow in MC, and none of my "APE" grows from swab were the real deal. This is why I'm curious. I havent seen evidence that APE fruits produce APE fruits, so I'm wondering how does one get a hold of APE spores?

If I want a syringe I have to order one to another country then leave my country get it and smuggle it back over the border. Seems like a pita if I just want to grow some APE...


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateah]
    #25539374 - 10/15/18 03:04 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I've never tried with a swab, although I've made and sent plenty to folks. If I can find any APE swabs somewhere that I saved, I'll give it a go. Perhaps their spores are just more likely to be from the non-APE variety involved? Not sure, and have never heard of swabs giving off non-APE stuff so frequently.

The F3 generation of APE came from printed F2 fruits with the desired characteristics and had clear albino spores. So I'd say APE produces spores that produce APE fruits. I'm pretty sure the syringes made are from current APE phenotypes and not earlier generations.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25539706 - 10/15/18 05:24 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Does an LC need gas exchange? I’ve got crafty lids with pieces of SFD stuck to them and silicone injection ports. Thinking about going simple - pyrex lab bottle with screw top, no lid mods, pour my LC. Can’t see why it won’t be fine :shrug: but feedback appreciated


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: space_shrooms]
    #25539758 - 10/15/18 05:45 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Of course it does. It's a living organism that requires oxygen, brah.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: space_shrooms]
    #25539770 - 10/15/18 05:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Yup LC needs gas exchange, and it helps to swirl it to oxygenate it. The growing mycelium produces CO2 and not having a filter will cause it to suffocate.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #25539807 - 10/15/18 06:03 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

They make gl 45 caps that have a breathable material on them.


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