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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimph]
#25531109 - 10/11/18 10:55 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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How I miss that? I always try to see who writes to who(m?) But this time didn't register. Great link for sure!
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimph]
#25531114 - 10/11/18 10:57 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Im pretty sure trichodermas is a secondary decomposer and feeds on myc. While aspergillis competes with the myc and can be taken over by it... I think the only sure fire way to tell is with a microscope and im pretty sure that's not the only two green molds out there
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Nimph
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25531122 - 10/11/18 11:03 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I know shiitake will eat tf outa green mold.
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Mateja


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25531148 - 10/11/18 11:17 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I've actually never seen myc lose a battle on agar. It envelops both while mold myc and sporulating colonies in my experience. And I just grad the whole page about Trichoderma on Wikipedia and didn't get much enlightened.. fuck it I'll just in use whatever green I find and label it.
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superbarnie
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#25531264 - 10/12/18 01:18 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Has anyone tried making slurry/LC with low concentration agar?? What I mean is like an LC recipe but with some agar powder to make it thicker and goopy.
Then this goopy mixture can be inoculated to grow our culture. And when its done colonizing it can be poured to inoculate grains in bags or jars etc.
Would there be any advantage in doing this instead of standard LC? Im thinking it might make faster colonization rates since the agar acts as a platform for the myc to grow on and jump off to the grains. Basically the same reasons slurries colonize so fast.
Let me know what you think.
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IntergalacticSpore
Grows shrooms on agar



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimph]
#25531423 - 10/12/18 05:38 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nimph said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
Read that grasshopper
I've gone over it I just haven't read it all yet. I watched fresh cap mushrooms videos on youtube, the guy seems to have an idea what he is doing but I've never seen anyone mention coffee so I figured I'd ask.
Thanks for the link though.
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If you're interested in endospore theory and soak vs no soak theory then please click here" https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21604725
Haha found bodhis view on the endospore/mold spore germination theory. Goess I'm going with the no soak version, makes a lot more sense to me!
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Edited by IntergalacticSpore (10/12/18 05:58 AM)
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: superbarnie]
#25531532 - 10/12/18 06:51 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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superbarnie said: Has anyone tried making slurry/LC with low concentration agar?? What I mean is like an LC recipe but with some agar powder to make it thicker and goopy.
Then this goopy mixture can be inoculated to grow our culture. And when its done colonizing it can be poured to inoculate grains in bags or jars etc.
Would there be any advantage in doing this instead of standard LC? Im thinking it might make faster colonization rates since the agar acts as a platform for the myc to grow on and jump off to the grains. Basically the same reasons slurries colonize so fast.
Let me know what you think.
ive seen it done, but there are no noticeable benefitd
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mushroomnate
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zero Nowhere]
#25531626 - 10/12/18 07:42 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Zero Nowhere said: Have you seen the little mini bales of straw at wWalmart? I'm tempted to grab a couple. The straw looks weird though, like it's really clean or something.
Every time I see those I just shake my head. Those mini bales are twice as much as a regular bale of straw at the feed store!
Yeah I know they're expensive, and I have access to large straw bales,if I wanted to use it. but that size seems convenient. Maybe good for sneaking into an apartment or something
Way overpriced,but they can be convenient. I have used it in the past with good results,and now have been using it for outdoor projects.(since I have it on hand) It comes pretty clean,and is pretty much shredded strait from the bail.

Again WAY overpriced,but nice to have around.
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushroomnate]
#25532382 - 10/12/18 01:59 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Also, before I jar up these oats, I think I may have over cooked them. Made a smaller amount this time and lost track of time.
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mushroomnate
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25532396 - 10/12/18 02:06 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Looks like a lot of burst grain.Could get gooey/wet after the PC. I would also let them dry longer before loading.I like my oats to be pretty dry on the outside,before PC.(I dry 4-8 hrs) But,I'm in the learning phase as well.
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Zero Nowhere
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushroomnate]
#25532912 - 10/12/18 06:02 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I used to let mine dry for a long time in the strainer. Sometimes up to 3 hours. Now I dump em out on a towel on my counter and rub em down. That speeds the drying process up tremendously
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zero Nowhere]
#25532937 - 10/12/18 06:18 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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mushroomnate said: Looks like a lot of burst grain.Could get gooey/wet after the PC. I would also let them dry longer before loading.I like my oats to be pretty dry on the outside,before PC.(I dry 4-8 hrs) But,I'm in the learning phase as well.
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Zero Nowhere said: I used to let mine dry for a long time in the strainer. Sometimes up to 3 hours. Now I dump em out on a towel on my counter and rub em down. That speeds the drying process up tremendously
I spread out on an old screen and stirred them around occasionally. Did the tissue test before I jarred them up so fingers crossed. Just waiting for them to finish in the PC.

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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Inocuole]
#25534046 - 10/13/18 08:56 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Highly doubtful, the 2 are gonna compete for nutrients and one will overtake the other, probably the shiitake. It might be possible to get both to fruit, but it'd be hit and miss.
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25534213 - 10/13/18 10:16 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Was wondering if this jar is fluffy myc or mold.
Also I’ve never had a dish do this. Mold as well?

Thanks in advance,
BB
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Germs
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25534282 - 10/13/18 10:57 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brain Bulb said: Was wondering if this jar is fluffy myc or mold.
Also I’ve never had a dish do this. Mold as well?

Thanks in advance,
BB
Those jars are no good, definitely contaminated with mold. The petri dish doesn’t look much better, hard to tell. Take some better pictures with a lght in front of and behind the plate
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25534286 - 10/13/18 10:59 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr tc now 
If your trying to clean that up I would take smaller transfers.
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
#25534615 - 10/13/18 01:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Germs said:
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Brain Bulb said: Was wondering if this jar is fluffy myc or mold.
Also I’ve never had a dish do this. Mold as well?

Thanks in advance,
BB
Those jars are no good, definitely contaminated with mold. The petri dish doesn’t look much better, hard to tell. Take some better pictures with a lght in front of and behind the plate
Thanks! Just did a fresh batch of jars and have cultures growing on agar. I opened the jar a little to smell and it didn’t really smell like anything. Oh well, part of the learning process. Here are some pics of that plate. Just noticed it’s growing around the side of the plate as well.

Crazy that you can get such different results from the same plate. This was transferred from the same MP.
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Brain Bulb
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25534618 - 10/13/18 01:47 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Mr tc now 
If your trying to clean that up I would take smaller transfers.
Definitely working on that. That was my first time transferring A2A. Did some more last night and took a much smaller piece for transfer.
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Nimph
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25534716 - 10/13/18 02:46 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sneaky bacteria yes vewy sneaky...
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IntergalacticSpore
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimph]
#25535920 - 10/14/18 04:12 AM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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 How do you guys get condense to go away when you pour agar? It's limiting my visibility a lot.
I have started sealing the petri dishes with parafilm and it is making water condense on the top of glass. Is there any remedy? Like rubbing some hydrophobic thing on top lid before sterilizing it.
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