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IntergalacticSpore
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25530002 - 10/11/18 02:14 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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RomeoPapa said: Ok. Not the best pic. I'm pretty sure I did this as a comparison. These had just come out of the PC and the one on the left was given a shake and the one on the right had not. See all the wet grain stuck up on the glass?

Holy smokes that's amazing! The difference is HUGE! I'm afraid to shake them to not get filters dirty with material that would make contamination entry easier.
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RomeoPapa
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I use plastic Ball lids with a hole drilled and a SFD silicone to it. I'm positive I haven't had a tam due to filter failure. If it tams it's because I messed up and put it in the damn jar!
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25530018 - 10/11/18 02:19 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah happens with mine all the time.
The problem happens when the moist returns after the shake if it does and usually it won't.

Try waiting till the PC's cooled off. Not saying I don't pull mine out hot all the time just something else to try.
Intergalactic.
Don't worry about that unless your using tyvek or micropore tape and even then it shouldn't be a big issue.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25530052 - 10/11/18 02:29 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brain Bulb said: Broke up the grain on my jars last night and rolled them around rather than shake. Since I added the agar I hadnโt shaken. MCโs are still doing well. New growth on all sides of the jar this morning.

Yeah. If you look back at my post from yesterday it has pics of what they looked like.
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IntergalacticSpore
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25530068 - 10/11/18 02:34 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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RomeoPapa said: I use plastic Ball lids with a hole drilled and a SFD silicone to it. I'm positive I haven't had a tam due to filter failure. If it tams it's because I messed up and put it in the damn jar!
Can you take a picture of it?
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van hatton said: Intergalactic.
Don't worry about that unless your using tyvek or micropore tape and even then it shouldn't be a big issue.
I used to use MP tape on half and cotton ball filter on half, cotton was okay but if it gets wet it stays wet for so much longer than polyfill. I got polyfill yesterday and used it for the first time.
Right now I'm probably going to do polyfill in hole to max density I can pull through and then another layer of polyfill sheet on top with mp tape over it.
I think I can shake those safely then.
How are bags with air filters anyway? I see you guys here using jars, are jars better?
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RomeoPapa
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RomeoPapa said: I've found that soaking my wheat for at least 12 hours will plump them up some and after a short boil I have less burst grain than going from dry grain straight to a boil.
I guess the soak makes the grain skin more "stretchy" I guess
I personally do a minimum of 1.5 hours on my PC cycle. Most of the time 2 hours. No other reason than that's what I've read on here.
I pull the jars from the PC as soon as the pressure is off it and give my jars a shake while they are still hot. I think it helps redistribute the moisture in the grains
I heard that you only have to PS for 15 minutes, 30 minutes, 45, 60, 75 and 90.
I guess Everyone adds 15 minutes to the version they heard just to be safe and naturally if you hear two you do the longer one so naturally we get to 90 minutes at which point people I guess are like there's no way in hell that leaves anything unnuked 
And still why not do 2 hours for the hell of it.
Not like it does any damage.
Um... Im not sure where you read anything less than an hour... Liquids are the only thing that should,be in there less than half an hour....
Time is money. So is the gas it takes to keep that pressurr
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IntergalacticSpore
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25530115 - 10/11/18 02:49 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Um... Im not sure where you read anything less than an hour... Liquids are the only thing that should,be in there less than half an hour....
Time is money. So is the gas it takes to keep that pressurr
I was exaggerating. I will do 90 minutes from now on though, I trust you guys to know better than just about anyone else.
I put gas on minimum on smallest gas stove, it uses very very little. By the sound of exiting vapours I'm assuming the temps inside must be at 125C considering the pressure is only released when it is at 15 psi.
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Where did you buy that white filter material on top? Or rather what kind of material is it.
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RomeoPapa
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Ebay. They are synthetic filter discs. Get the 90mm ones. Grab a coin. A nickle or quarter and trace out circles and cut them out. For the lid I have better luck stepping up my hole size. The plastic is pretty brittle and will crack easily. I start with an 1/8" bit and finish with a 1/4". Let the drill the work. Dont press too hard.
After that I take a bit of sand paper or scotch brite and scuff up the top of the lid were the silicone will go to help it adhere better. I used the red high temp stuff simply because it was what I had on hand.
Squeeze a bead around the outside of your little disc you cut out and put it over the hole in the lid. Rinse and repeat. The silicone takes quite awhile to cure fully.
These style lids have been through several PC cycles with no problem. I hand wash them in the sink and let them air dry after I spawn a tub without issues.
I definitely like the one piece aspect of these lids and they are rust proof also.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25530341 - 10/11/18 04:21 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I prefer to melt the holes when it comes to plastic so i dont break anything. Make sure they arent on too tight when you use them or they will stick to the jar.
Aparently you can just use them and theyll cure in the pc
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25530409 - 10/11/18 04:53 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I PCd a batch that was still wet and a couple got stuck to the foil and pulled off.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25530413 - 10/11/18 04:56 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sfds dont need foil. Thats the,same reason pasty plates need a paper towel
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Brain Bulb]
#25530799 - 10/11/18 08:10 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Brain Bulb said: Broke up the grain on my jars last night and rolled them around rather than shake. Since I added the agar I hadnโt shaken. MCโs are still doing well. New growth on all sides of the jar this morning.

New pics of the same jar I posted this morning. Itโs been a little over 11 hrs. Let me know what you think.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25530990 - 10/11/18 09:43 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Sfds dont need foil. Thats the,same reason pasty plates need a paper towel
So I have been wasting foil? Always astounds me how these little tips always pop up, great to know. 
Started using SFD's a couple months ago, love em now that i know they can be used quite a few times before failing and now this!! 
They surly don't seem as spendy now.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: R.I.P.Zappa]
#25531048 - 10/11/18 10:09 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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I need something cleared up for me if someone has any good info. I find contradicting posts and am unsure. The question is:
What kind of mold germinates on top of myc and 'eats' it?
And is the even true in the first place? How can we know this to be true?
I've also read that we can't know the difference between some green molds without a backwards telescope? Like Apsergillus or Trichoderma..
So naturally I feel like cultivating some green satellites and cutting them out and smearing them on top of a fully colonized substrate to see what happens. But how can I know what kind of myc eating mold I got or don't? (Or if there even is one such) I plan on doing this so any help would be appreciated.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimph]
#25531083 - 10/11/18 10:35 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Nimph]
#25531091 - 10/11/18 10:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Nimph said: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/24144021
Read that grasshopper
That's a great link I think I've had it in my sig at some point. But unfortunately the concentration span for searching information is honestly not quite there for me at the moment. Also I would like to hear the latest opinions on this and have the opportunity to chat about it if need be. 8 honestly don't know what difference is between Trich or Aspergillus but I think I can see difference between two green molds at my place One is a weird blue/green color like some sea in the Caribbean and the other one is dark green like a pine tree. (Imo)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leon Forest]
#25531093 - 10/11/18 10:45 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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i do them like this
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TheMadHatter420 said: Well I started cutting up SFD's for jars. I went about it like most tracing a coin, in fact this is the only way I have seen it done so far. I got tired of that shit and noticed I could lay out a grid on the wide mouth. 2x2 CM squares and you get 12. Its a lot easier and faster to cut out. I hope this helps some of you.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mateja]
#25531098 - 10/11/18 10:48 PM (5 years, 3 months ago) |
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Its not for u foo its for the asking about coffee
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