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InvisibleGerms
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25210884 - 05/17/18 05:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
I've had success without doing either. I think people put too much stress on using alcohol for everything. No doubt it helps but I'm very conservative with it. And if you have everything down it's not neccesary



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JHOVA said:
If i had everything down doing it my way i wouldnt have trashed 18 jars.



Use lots of alcohol
More is better


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #25210980 - 05/17/18 06:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

How sure are you Its technique and not the master? It could be a bit of each


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25211007 - 05/17/18 06:34 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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If i had everything down doing it my way i wouldnt have trashed 18 jars.




Oh man, did this just happen?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25211086 - 05/17/18 07:03 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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How sure are you Its technique and not the master? It could be a bit of each




The master jars recovered 3 times quickly from shakes and looked visually good.
i clinked one of the the master jars on a receiving jar by accident and i think it is possible i touched the under side of the master lid from removing and replacing the lid on every jar.

My plan is to spawn a few without expanding and then do a g2g like RR and post the video. I think i'd prefer to use 2 hands on the master jar while pouring.
then if it 'tams out, at least i know it's not during expansion. Which at that point will lead one to believe the culprit is the culture or grain prep.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25211510 - 05/17/18 10:22 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If i vacuum seal my jars to store my dry mushrooms would it still be beneficial to use a desiccant as well, or is just vacuum sealing sufficient enough?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: flyhighfunguy]
    #25211514 - 05/17/18 10:25 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

:whathesaid:

I've also started vacuum sealing mine in food saver bags, is that any better/worse?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr.Kaption]
    #25211518 - 05/17/18 10:27 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If they're in jars with metal lids/bands then you shouldn't need to vacuum seal the jar in a bag


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: flyhighfunguy] * 1
    #25211520 - 05/17/18 10:28 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I don't use desicant packs in my food saver vacuum bags. I do use them in my jars though. The jars are not vac sealed. I haven't ever had a problem either way with the mush drawing moisture.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
    #25211595 - 05/17/18 11:21 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

The food saver has an attachment to vacuum seal quart mason jars. I use that to seal up my dried mush. No desiccant needed.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Roscoe]
    #25212463 - 05/18/18 11:46 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I use desiccant as a just in case because it's not going to hurt anything, but can help out if something happens, even if it's unlikely. They're like $10 for like 250 of them on Amazon. Why not? It's not unheard that you accidentally take them off the dehydrator with a little bit of moisture left. It's not unheard of that the bag gets popped by a stem or something.

JHOVA,

Why are you shaking the master to recover 3 times? Also are you going quart > quart or pint > quart? Pint is definitely easier to manage.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25212473 - 05/18/18 11:51 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

About how many qts do you knock up with a pint master star?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25212478 - 05/18/18 11:54 AM (5 years, 8 months ago)

1 at 30% 2 at 70% and then again before spawning to see how it recovers.

Im gonna use pints for masters now. Easier in the sab.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25212557 - 05/18/18 12:38 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Fuck that 70 ime I only shake once at 20-30 then again at spawning recovery time at 30 should tell you how clean it is
Pints are awesome masters. One pint to 5-7 quarts is awesome


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25212582 - 05/18/18 12:50 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

:shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25212836 - 05/18/18 02:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Pints for masters is pretty convenient in my exp. Can expand to about 6-7 easily, usually finish up in 8-10 days.

Ive noticed a batch of jars I did a while ago have been contaminated with a yeast, but the myc seems fairly undisturbed by it. Anyone have exp of grows with a yeast contamination?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lemgrub]
    #25212841 - 05/18/18 02:47 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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Pints for masters is pretty convenient in my exp. Can expand to about 6-7 easily, usually finish up in 8-10 days.

Ive noticed a batch of jars I did a while ago have been contaminated with a yeast, but the myc seems fairly undisturbed by it. Anyone have exp of grows with a yeast contamination?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Germs]
    #25212848 - 05/18/18 02:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Rant for 1 second.

Can people PLEASE stop sending unmarked prints?

All prints should have date, variety/species and be marked for microscopy purposes only.

It’s a real pain to get an unmarked print amongst others and to figure out what is what.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25212854 - 05/18/18 02:50 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

who the f would send an unmarked print?:oldman:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25212864 - 05/18/18 02:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Not even in a baggie, just a print on foil in a piece of paper.

I appreciate giveaways and trades but come on peeps.
No idea who this is from.

So if anyone from TX sent me a print recently, pm me so I can catalog it for my library


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Lemgrub]
    #25212884 - 05/18/18 03:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Timmymeow but hes a shroom :wizard:


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