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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Asura]
    #25208888 - 05/16/18 07:55 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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I get my ball plastic lids at super target. Way cheaper there than any place I found online. The biggest pluses for them is they don't rust and they are one piece.




I agree wholeheartedly. I just did a bunch of G2G tonight with the 2 piece metal lids. Do
not like. Makes me nervous getting my hands near the threads when I have to pop the lid off.



I've developed a hate for plastic lids, only thing they are good for is the microwave, I prefer single piece metal lids


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25208901 - 05/16/18 08:05 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

That sucks. Especially adding gas and time into a fruitless search. Buy more than you think you'll need. I cracked several lids drilling the ge holes. Go slow and start with a small bit and work your way up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
    #25208952 - 05/16/18 08:31 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Or just use a hot rod and melt them


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids] * 1
    #25209070 - 05/16/18 09:29 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I really like the fungi perfecti lids. I got a big box of them and I use them for everything. Gonna make some no tilt jar lids this weekend for LI and LC.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: boom boom]
    #25209122 - 05/16/18 10:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I use ball plastic lids and the metal 2 piece classics. I drilled em all the same. The ones that crack just get a lil extra silicone to be sure to seal the break.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #25210180 - 05/17/18 12:07 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

do you wipe a master jar’s ring grooves with alcohol after removing the ring for grain to grain transfers? Or do you only sanitize the space between the ring and jar while screwed on?
Or both?

FranksHorrigan’s tek and RR’s video show wiping before removing.
Stareatclouds wipes the grooves in his g2g video.

I’m pretty sure this is a cause of contamination for me going from clean agar> grains that recover from a shake quick at 100% > bacterial and mold contams after expanding.  That and clinking the glass on each other.:smbfacepalm:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25210220 - 05/17/18 12:28 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I just wipe down the outside of my two piece lids with 70% iso.

Remove the outer one, then open the second piece once I am ready to inoculate.

I am guessing you only shake at 100% then?

All of my contaminated grain has been from (pparently) unclean agar spawn and shows up after the initial 25-30% shake. Doesn't recover and tams out.

If you are recovering than you probably have clean grain, so maybe it has to due with what you expand it to?
Or do you mean expanding to another grain jar? If the latter, than it must be technique.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25210298 - 05/17/18 12:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

What's the upper limit for how fast cube myc can colonize stuff? What's the fastest anyone has seen?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25210304 - 05/17/18 01:00 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Yea exactly. The inital jar is shaken 2 times at least sometimes 3 and it recovers quickly. When i go to gtg i fuck up and they dont pass the shake test and contam out when spawned.

Thats why im paranoid about my jar sanitzatioj prior to transfer.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25210315 - 05/17/18 01:04 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Maybe forgo G2G? Just inoculate masters and use those without expanding?

Also try wiping down all of the jar, especially the one that will be lifted up.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA] * 1
    #25210330 - 05/17/18 01:12 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

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do you wipe a master jar’s ring grooves with alcohol after removing the ring for grain to grain transfers? Or do you only sanitize the space between the ring and jar while screwed on?
Or both?

FranksHorrigan’s tek and RR’s video show wiping before removing.
Stareatclouds wipes the grooves in his g2g video.

I’m pretty sure this is a cause of contamination for me going from clean agar> grains that recover from a shake quick at 100% > bacterial and mold contams after expanding.  That and clinking the glass on each other.:smbfacepalm:




I wipe the entire jar, including the bottom of it, and all over the top of the lid. Then I'll stuff the paper towel in between the ring opening and go around it once or twice. I do this before putting them in the SAB (unless they're coming right from PC) and once again in there most of the time.

When the master lid is off, I'll sometimes wipe around it, being careful to not knock off the lid. After cracking it, if I've been handling it for longer than normal, or bumped it into shit, I'll carefully wipe the threading again with the rag, making sure I don't knock off the lid by placing a finger on the SFD. I'll sometimes do the same to the threading on receiving jars, especially if I've clinked them around or touched them with something bad.

You should post a video of your G2G technique. For standard SAB setups, a decent way to get good footage is to set a clear plastic shoebox tote on top of the SAB and set the phone on that one. Doesn't fuck up visibility for you and is high enough to capture everything.

My guess if it isn't poor technique is slightly bacterial spawn that only shows itself later down the line. Perhaps you're not sterilizing long enough with properly prepped grains? Tough to say without more info, especially a video.

I'm pretty confident in my G2G ability and have a very low contamination rate. I also remove master lids for LIs to switch to new, unmodified lid each time. So feel free to hit me up or ping me if you post a video and maybe I can help.


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Maybe forgo G2G? Just inoculate masters and use those without expanding?





To each their own, but I vote against this. From a logistical/economical POV, G2G is sooo valuable that skipping it is asinine. And from a fellow cultivator, don't give up just because shit is tough. G2G is the easiest way to expand myc and is not difficult at all.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25210481 - 05/17/18 02:31 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

i just had a conversation with someone and they are saying that there is more active compound in the cap because it is the cap and the stem has less

what is the science behind all of the fruit having the same acive content?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
    #25210505 - 05/17/18 02:44 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

ive had no problems eating 5grams of stems. tripped my balls off.
if there is a difference its probably minute and varies from fruit to fruit.

more actives in the cap because its the cap - great argument from said friend:rofl:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: stareatclouds]
    #25210593 - 05/17/18 03:33 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I think i will put my money where my mouth is and film myself. I think im close to getting it right.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25210653 - 05/17/18 03:54 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Lol right! There's no evidence to support that argument. The sample size alone renders that info pointless to spread


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25210663 - 05/17/18 03:58 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I have a jar of colonized alleni on rye that I want to store in the fridge for a few months. right now it has a 3/8" hole with a tyvek filter. Should I put it in the frisge as is or should I replace it with a new lid with no hole to prevent it from drying out?


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Ghost]
    #25210724 - 05/17/18 04:37 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

JHOVA I've never wiped the threads of my quart jars of grain before G2G, only spritz with 70% alcohol and wipe with a paper towel with the ring still on. I usually do not get any contams at all, probably like 99.5% overall success in all my years that way. I do my transfers in a flowhood.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #25210735 - 05/17/18 04:42 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

Good to know either way works as long as you really get in the crevice before the g2g.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
    #25210740 - 05/17/18 04:45 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

I've had success without doing either. I think people put too much stress on using alcohol for everything. No doubt it helps but I'm very conservative with it. And if you have everything down it's not neccesary


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25210752 - 05/17/18 04:49 PM (5 years, 8 months ago)

If i had everything down doing it my way i wouldnt have trashed 18 jars.


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