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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25145964 - 04/17/18 04:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It's just ergonomics. Far easier with snap on lids (at least some snap-on lids, others can be a bitch). Snap on lids work better than screw tops if you work with the plates upside-down imo.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#25145975 - 04/17/18 04:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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any suggestions
Plastic dude, plastic. Also, no screw tops for agar. If you want more suggestions, check out my last thread, there are enough suggestions there to kill a cow.
Win some lose some. + + + Glass agar jars have nice visibility and durablity. The tops dont get fucked to hell. Available at walmart on special order. — — — price and weight . Require ghetto film or else mold. Regular jars are quilted in stores.
I prefer them to pasty plates if you care about a larger surface area than PPs and increased visibility.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25145981 - 04/17/18 04:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why don't you filter them instead? That way you can screw the lid on tight. Although I don't like them, screw tops are usually very safe for agar, nothing ain't gonna enter there if you keep the lid closed tight and filter the jar.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#25146002 - 04/17/18 04:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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A filter on top is an extra unnecessary step. with the plastic lid you need film to protect the grooves or else you can get mold. Maybe 15% will fail without parafilm. TomBos was the one who recommended using parafilm on these type of no pour and its been great for me.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25146024 - 04/17/18 04:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I must be missing something here  Unnecessary step? To me adding a filter looks far less hassle than wrapping each plate individually with cling wrap. Also, 3 layers of tape covering a tiny hole will last in good condition for several pc cycles, then you can just add another layer over the old ones. If I had to do them with the lid unmodified, I'd screw the lids tight as soon as I get them out of the PC, and screw them tight again after xferring. Agar cultures will grow fine with the air that's in the plate, no real need for a filter, or to unscrew the lid a tad (in case of no filter) except for preventing a vacuum during the pc cycle.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex] 1
#25146029 - 04/17/18 04:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ive got mold from using them as you suggest. The seal is imperfect thats why i use cling wrap
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25146036 - 04/17/18 04:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ah ok that's the bit I was missing.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25146088 - 04/17/18 05:10 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: Ive got mold from using them as you suggest. The seal is imperfect thats why i use cling wrap
Are you using plastic or metal single piece lids? I don't have issues my area is typically always still though
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25146209 - 04/17/18 05:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25146369 - 04/17/18 06:53 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I want to do an outdoor grow this year but my general rh is 20%... What do?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: thelanzii]
#25146523 - 04/17/18 07:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: Inocuole]
#25146571 - 04/17/18 08:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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At the very least post a link to the thread so we can all learn
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thufir_Hawat]
#25147021 - 04/17/18 11:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thufir_Hawat said: Think I got a little too eager with my current grow, in a 32ish qt sterilite, ~3 inches of sub, popped the lid after 8 days and have been doing the flip and look for two days with occasional misting. Some aerial myc and the myc that was going up the sides has receded and matted a bit.

Lid back on sealed, with 4 lil quarter inch holes covered in MP at the top for GE. Sorry, colony!!!

Driving myself nuts trying to figure out what if anything is wrong. Half convinced myself it's trich since it appears bright white compared to the rest of the mycellium, but then maybe it's knotting?
One spot with and without flash:

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Nothing to do but wait, but as a neurotic I'd appreciate any guesses
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion *DELETED* [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25147303 - 04/18/18 04:39 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: At the very least post a link to the thread so we can all learn
her was the op
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I just inoculated 6 plates and here was my experience
I will post pics when the plates have more growth
the plate style was a kerr wide mouth half pint with a plastic lid un modified
i had a few difficulties but overall i think it went well
I found it really hard to break up the spore clumps in the syringe, i tried very hard not to suck air back up into the syringe and was barely able to break the clumps up, I imagine there is a technique to this but couldn't find much in the search results
another thing i found difficult was opening up the lids from the alcohol coated jars
i used an alcohol coated towel as grip which was still difficult to open them but got the job done. the towel hit the floor of the sab a few times which i wasn't thrilled about
i plan on doing pasty plates in the future but i already have these jars poured and have seen other people successful with them around here
here is the thread i made https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25145757
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25147304 - 04/18/18 04:41 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: A filter on top is an extra unnecessary step. with the plastic lid you need film to protect the grooves or else you can get mold. Maybe 15% will fail without parafilm. TomBos was the one who recommended using parafilm on these type of no pour and its been great for me.
I was wondering why you advised me to wrap them.
This leads to me question how people use these plastic lids with success on grain jars
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25147338 - 04/18/18 05:28 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: I want to do an outdoor grow this year but my general rh is 20%... What do?
Create a micro-climate somewhere in a corner. Simply sowing a bunch of chervil on top of a bunch of coir and cubensis colonized grains will most likely do the trick. The chervil, if planted on a good amount of surface in a spot with not too much wind, will provide for the needed shade to keep humidity up. I did this in a planter, it was sitting in full sunlight everyday, but sitting a little bit protected from the wind. I used a few quarts of contammed sub instead of grains though, and my general rh is a tad higher, so I'd say make sure the spot itself is already in a very green area, lots of plants evaporating moisture around it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
#25147387 - 04/18/18 06:20 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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JHOVA said: A filter on top is an extra unnecessary step. with the plastic lid you need film to protect the grooves or else you can get mold. Maybe 15% will fail without parafilm. TomBos was the one who recommended using parafilm on these type of no pour and its been great for me.
I was wondering why you advised me to wrap them.
This leads to me question how people use these plastic lids with success on grain jars
Air takes the path of least resistance. If you put a hole and sfd , id do it on the inside to not disturb the flat top when upside down on a cookie rack or stacked in a sab.
Try a few for yourself though. Maybe your house has less airborne mold/bacteria.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: JHOVA]
#25147458 - 04/18/18 07:33 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wrapped the ones i have made up and the ones i inoculated
my house plenty of carpets and my roommate's compost so i am going to err on the side of caution
managed to cut the saran wrap with just a steak knife and it worked fine
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
#25147491 - 04/18/18 07:54 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why don't we have a "deal of the day" thread? Would it be against the rules, it would be helpful in saving others time and possibly some cash... I've been looking at AA941's and AA930's for the past 2 days lol...but if it's not allowed due to plugging non sponsors I understand
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
#25147494 - 04/18/18 07:59 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I've been using unmodded plastic lids with no issues for a while now. I never use them for agar since I have pp5's dedicated to culture work but I have used them for stone producing strains with 0 issues and some are still sitting on the shelf since Oct. It definitely depends on your surroundings but I do all of my cult work in the same carpeted bedroom and all my cultures and spawn jars are kept in the carpeted closet. This house is old af but I haven't had problems 
I assume that its exactly what you mentioned Leftfield420, plugging non sponsors is a conflict of interest
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