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bodhisatta 
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I cut the stumps turn to mycelium and new pins often form off them. Don't go soaking them after harvesting
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
#25138229 - 04/14/18 11:34 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mycolorado said: Lime is alkaline and raises the ph. Ive never used it on straw but would guess people use it so they don’t have to heat and maintain pasteurization temps on such large volumes of water. If you’re referring to casings in the latter part of your question I would say the lime part of the equation is to render it less appetizing to the fungus you’re growing as well as to extend the efficacy of the heat pasteurization.
This is correct. Spiking of PH serves same purpose in a heat pasteurization bath of wheat straw, as it does casing material. High PH creates an uncomfortable environment for invader spores to germinate upon while not bothering myce.
I don't really like to pit the two against each other when pasteurizing wheat straw is concerned, rather, use them in conjunction with each other as an extra preventive/barrier against contamination.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25138241 - 04/14/18 11:37 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said: I cut the stumps turn to mycelium and new pins often form off them. Don't go soaking them after harvesting
Ok cool i will give that a shot thanks bod
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#25138266 - 04/14/18 11:50 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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hamloaf said:
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Mycolorado said: Lime is alkaline and raises the ph. Ive never used it on straw but would guess people use it so they don’t have to heat and maintain pasteurization temps on such large volumes of water. If you’re referring to casings in the latter part of your question I would say the lime part of the equation is to render it less appetizing to the fungus you’re growing as well as to extend the efficacy of the heat pasteurization.
This is correct. Spiking of PH serves same purpose in a heat pasteurization bath of wheat straw, as it does casing material. High PH creates an uncomfortable environment for invader spores to germinate upon while not bothering myce.
I don't really like to pit the two against each other when pasteurizing wheat straw is concerned, rather, use them in conjunction with each other as an extra preventive/barrier against contamination.
I don't get it. If they do the same thing then why heat pasteurize peat?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25138275 - 04/14/18 11:54 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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To keep the mycelium of the fungus you’re growing from completely colonizing and consuming the casing.
Whoops, sorry, I misread your question. You need the heat pasteurization as it would be a pain to lime pasteurize a casing and then wring out all the excess water or whatever. Straw is easy as it’s large pieces which is typically in a basket and removed from the lime bath to drain.
Edited by Mycolorado (04/14/18 12:01 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mycolorado]
#25138318 - 04/14/18 12:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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That makes sense
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25138458 - 04/14/18 01:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi! I did an recipe of 8g LME and 300ml water for LC, and after the pc this happened. I used coffee filters too!
What happened??

is it safe to nocc it?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roses4lg]
#25138544 - 04/14/18 01:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hi, this is my first grow (BRF TEK) and I had a general question. I started my grow end of March (not sure exact day) and just started seeing growth April 2.
The weather in my area went warm then cold and now its starting warming up (flowers, bees) again. I still don't have 100% colonization but also no mold. Am I still on a good track? Do I need to do anything about food or gas or just sit and wait.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: aldiddy]
#25138701 - 04/14/18 03:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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roses4lg said: Hi! I did an recipe of 8g LME and 300ml water for LC, and after the pc this happened. I used coffee filters too!
What happened??

is it safe to nocc it?
Just sediment. No big deal, I hope you are inoculating with agar.
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aldiddy said: Hi, this is my first grow (BRF TEK) and I had a general question. I started my grow end of March (not sure exact day) and just started seeing growth April 2.
The weather in my area went warm then cold and now its starting warming up (flowers, bees) again. I still don't have 100% colonization but also no mold. Am I still on a good track? Do I need to do anything about food or gas or just sit and wait.

Just wait
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: roses4lg]
#25138719 - 04/14/18 03:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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roses4lg said: Hi! I did an recipe of 8g LME and 300ml water for LC, and after the pc this happened. I used coffee filters too!
What happened??

is it safe to nocc it?
8grams of lme per 300 is insanely to high. for 300ml of water id use like .75-1g of LME. too sugary for me. id toss and redo.
also dont bother filtering lme.
unfiltered lme lc

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25138888 - 04/14/18 04:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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mushboy said:
8grams of lme per 300 is insanely to high. for 300ml of water id use like .75-1g of LME. too sugary for me. id toss and redo.
also dont bother filtering lme.
unfiltered lme lc

That's more or less what my honey LC looks like. I poured honey into the bottom of a half pint jar until there was a thin cost over the bottom, mixed with like 3/4 jar of water. I'm surprised it turned out, since it has an earplug-SHIP.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sangreen]
#25138899 - 04/14/18 04:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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an earplug-SHIP?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#25138950 - 04/14/18 04:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't see why not, if dimensions are at the right tightness...
I like the idea, in fact, it sounds like what I've always been looking for in an LC filter/ship. If probably does act as a GE filter as well, and it is probably also a whole lot more water-resistant than other DIY LC filters. I'm gonna try this out. And I'm picking it up in my informational post list. If it doesn't work for me, I'm taking it back out, but that's for time to tell.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#25138965 - 04/14/18 04:38 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sangreen. Just be sure you go back to agar with your lc to check for cleanliness. You don't want to knock up a bunch of grain jars only to figure out your lc was tammed out from the start.
Edit: on second thought, won't they melt in the pc cycle? Also if you're installing them afterwards I doubt they're sterile.
Edited by RomeoPapa (04/14/18 04:41 PM)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25139023 - 04/14/18 04:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Pasturizing casing. It dropped below desired range before an hour. Will it be fine to just repasteurize or should I make a new batch?
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25139034 - 04/14/18 04:59 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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it'll be fine to repasteurize.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25139051 - 04/14/18 05:08 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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How much lme do you use for 500ml Mushboy? Mine is a bit darker in color
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sangreen
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LizardWizard]
#25139149 - 04/14/18 05:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Josex said: an earplug-SHIP? 
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LizardWizard said:
I don't see why not, if dimensions are at the right tightness...
I like the idea, in fact, it sounds like what I've always been looking for in an LC filter/ship. If probably does act as a GE filter as well, and it is probably also a whole lot more water-resistant than other DIY LC filters. I'm gonna try this out. And I'm picking it up in my informational post list. If it doesn't work for me, I'm taking it back out, but that's for time to tell.
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RomeoPapa said: Sangreen. Just be sure you go back to agar with your lc to check for cleanliness. You don't want to knock up a bunch of grain jars only to figure out your lc was tammed out from the start.
Edit: on second thought, won't they melt in the pc cycle? Also if you're installing them afterwards I doubt they're sterile.
Their primary advantage was that I had one and didn't need to wait for the silicone to cure.
It's jammed through a smoothed hole that's about the size of a pencil. It survived steaming (haven't tried it yet in the PC). Leave a lot of headspace in the jar and try to avoid getting it wet when you shake it- they don't dry out quickly- but they don't get soaked the way filter disc does. For use, twist the needle on the way in (slides in easier) and pull it out really slowly. Like, back it out halfway and wait a second or two for the foam to close up.
It's on agar plates now. I also took a few good pictures through a microscope confirming hyphae and no visible contams.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Josex]
#25139160 - 04/14/18 05:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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sangreen said:
That's more or less what my honey LC looks like.
honey lc??
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
#25139210 - 04/14/18 05:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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yes, honey LC, it works so well it's been done for ages. Figuratively speaking of course. Or literally if you count honey mead
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