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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zero Nowhere]
    #25059258 - 03/12/18 08:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Not spending time typing things that are well documented. Put in the time reading like most of us have and you'll understand why I'm not gonna argue over this. I didn't really give you advice. But if you see poor advice say something. A lot of us like to be proven wrong because we like to learn and hate spreading falsehoods. So either be specific or stop talking shit because you're butthurt. I'm sorry I insulted you but understanding,things like sterilization will help you in the long run and I'm not typing that shit up


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #25059259 - 03/12/18 08:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

considering buying a stack of 20 plates costs about 15 dollars and 5 minutes of searching on amazon, I'd say there's really no reason to use any other method.  It's what petris were invented for.  And when you know the technique, there shouldn't be any issues with condensation.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #25059264 - 03/12/18 08:57 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

The reason I use no pours is because I don't,feel like,going through 3 sleeves a month. That's a lot of space in the landfill :thumbdown:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Thedillestpickle]
    #25059275 - 03/12/18 09:04 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Thedillestpickle said:
I almost never have issues with condensation.  I pour 20 plastic petris at a time, and stack them as I pour them so that the newly poured plate sits on the last plate that was poured and keeps the top surface warm to prevent condensation.  You want to get the timing right so that you are pouring just before the agar gets too thick to pour.

I pour in front of a flow hood, so I let the hood run for an extra 30 minutes after pouring.  This pushes a very small amount of air through the sides of each plate and removes some condensation that forms along the sides.  Alternatively you can let the plates sit unwrapped as a stack of 20 in a SAB for, say, 24 hours before wrapping.  That will allow some extra moisture to escape through the sides of the plate.  Then wrap, and slide them back into the sleeve they came in and tape shut.  Be mindful that a warm plate with a lid exposed to a cooler temp room will produce condensation on the lid.  So don't stack a plate on top of another plate that is colonizing because the warmth created by the lower plate will cause the top plate to form condensation.




Thanks brother for the time and courteous answer.  I'm a noob but I've been in the hobby for 10 years now.  I havnt been cultivating continuously but it's been on my mind and heart the whole time.  Ive only poured 60 actual 1oo mm plates.  I never had condensation problems. I like the huge surface of the Ziploc pints.  I want to make them work.  I'm trying to keep shit low-key around here.  I don't need a bunch of Petris everywhere.  If I have to I'll get some more.
  I've applied everything I know about pouring actual plates to pre pouring ziplocks.  I've stacked em,  left lids ajar for 24 hours.  Nothing worked , but tonight I poured out extra water.  They look good so far. 
  If I can't make them work I'll order some plates.  Thanks again bro.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Failboat]
    #25059277 - 03/12/18 09:05 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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Quirkmeister92 said:
Spawn straight to fruiting?



I'll mix these grains with prepared coco coir in shoebox and wait til it show me the fruits.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25059279 - 03/12/18 09:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
Not spending time typing things that are well documented. Put in the time reading like most of us have and you'll understand why I'm not gonna argue over this. I didn't really give you advice. But if you see poor advice say something. A lot of us like to be proven wrong because we like to learn and hate spreading falsehoods. So either be specific or stop talking shit because you're butthurt. I'm sorry I insulted you but understanding,things like sterilization will help you in the long run and I'm not typing that shit up




I'm a noob and I thought it was poor advice to tell me pooling  water is okay,  actually benefecial.  I'm not talking shit.  Just being real


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zero Nowhere]
    #25059310 - 03/12/18 09:22 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I just said it helped me germinate spores. Not that it is beneficial. I'm just sharing my experience. And I've never seen it be an issue. Some people get away with spawning bacterial grain :shrug: each journey is unique <3 :hug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25059317 - 03/12/18 09:27 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
Not spending time typing things that are well documented. Put in the time reading like most of us have and you'll understand why I'm not gonna argue over this. I didn't really give you advice. But if you see poor advice say something. A lot of us like to be proven wrong because we like to learn and hate spreading falsehoods. So either be specific or stop talking shit because you're butthurt. I'm sorry I insulted you but understanding,things like sterilization will help you in the long run and I'm not typing that shit up



Quote:

tryptkaloids said:
I just said it helped me germinate spores. Not that it is beneficial. I'm just sharing my experience. And I've never seen it be an issue. Some people get away with spawning bacterial grain :shrug: each journey is unique <3 :hug:



Alright then.  No hard feelings.  I'm just trying to learn


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Zero Nowhere]
    #25059336 - 03/12/18 09:36 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I know, I've been there, I'm sorry I've had a short fuse. Theres just some things you can find on your own with a quick search so it gets frustrating explaining the small things


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: FishLevelMidnight]
    #25059373 - 03/12/18 10:07 PM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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fishermansjc said:
I think he means like a circadian rhythm type thing. Growth is different at night than during the day




i've read that fungus has a circadian rhythm too. so how would you say growth is different at night?
i've had my newest mono under light for 3 or 4 days now. i think I'll give it a dark period.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: O0ZE]
    #25059644 - 03/13/18 02:30 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Hey guys I recently had some bottle tek bottles finish colonizing, and had them consolidate for a week. I put casings on each one (one was verm, one hpoo, and one verm/hpoo) and it's been about 2 weeks now in fruiting without pins. They smelled of fresh mushrooms when I opened them. Do you guys see any issues with the casing layers?

By the way I had just misted these which is why they may look a bit overly wet.



Edited by Xerbia (03/13/18 03:02 AM)


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25059730 - 03/13/18 04:33 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said:
The reason I use no pours is because I don't,feel like,going through 3 sleeves a month. That's a lot of space in the landfill :thumbdown:



You can buy polypropylene petri dishes on ebay. Like 10 bucks for 20 or so.
You just sterilize and pour like regular petrus but theyre reuseable.
I was gonna pick some up for myself here soon cause i just cant get into
no pour


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: natedawgnow]
    #25059751 - 03/13/18 04:58 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah but they're not as clear as polystyrene, I'd love some glass petris but from what I've been told, by the time you get done cleaning them and sterilizing them you've made a bigger environmental impact.

I've got to use some half pints for petris today, or I'll lose a shit ton of work, and lose my azurescens culture altogether (no print left). I'm 1 transfer away from having clean tamps, and a clean cube culture and my caerulescens needed transfered from the germ plate days ago...I need to get the money together and just buy a case of petris, a couple sleeves at a time just isn't doing it for me anymore.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Xerbia]
    #25059777 - 03/13/18 05:30 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Its bacterial and way to wet, moist not wet. Mist with lil beads of water on top.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #25059780 - 03/13/18 05:32 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

How could cleaning petris be a bigger impact than dozens of plates thrown
in th trash every month by 1000s of cultivators and biologists worldwide?

Just clean out agar and rinse. Bout as hard as cleanimg out a pasty plate.

The PP petris ive seen are pretty damn clear. Enough for my liking


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LemurLemur]
    #25059783 - 03/13/18 05:39 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

That's just what I've heard/read, doesn't make much sense to me either. My biggest hang up is dropping the money on glass petris, although I really should get some for instances like this.

I just realized how much work I actually have to do today. 4 transfers, prep and pc alder chips for my azurescens and then g2w when cool, and I should probably try to get my last oyster bucket done but I might just skip it. These last 3 jars have pretty much grew deformed fruits all the way around.

I need to find a lab buddy to help keep up with all of this lol


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
    #25059788 - 03/13/18 05:44 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

anyone ever pc with a butane camping stove?



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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
    #25059792 - 03/13/18 05:47 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

Nope. How does butane compare to propane regarding price and efficiency? You can find turkey fryer burners on sale cheap certain times of the year.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tight Lunchbox]
    #25059797 - 03/13/18 05:50 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

butane for camping stoves is about 2.50$ for 250g in can form

the cans are tiny and the stove is pretty tiny too

i might be living with roommates in the next coming months and having an alternative to the main stove seems like a good idea


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
    #25059807 - 03/13/18 05:56 AM (5 years, 10 months ago)

I read flames from those thimgs warp most pc's


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