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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25040653 - 03/05/18 02:51 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Patience.
 IMHO patience is the most important attribute in this hobby, you could have the best sterile tek in the world but it doesn't mean shit if you aren't patient enough to let the mushies do their thing. Gotta remember it's a living organism, and like all living organisms it will instinctively do whatever it takes to ensure it's genetics will carry on.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25040730 - 03/05/18 03:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I get very impatient, but this hobby does teach patience and cleanliness. MY A2G seems like it always takes a month but I kind use a lot of wbs in my jars but never full. I Just wanted to see what users get time wise.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: leafygreens]
#25040810 - 03/05/18 03:51 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I dunked all the cakes for 6 hours 3 days ago because I was paranoid because they do look dry. But 1 of the cake was growing 1 shroom b4 I broke it off on accident lol. It just doesn't really make sense to me because I waited a week after colonization and then dunked 12 hours in the half-pint jars then I rolled in verm and put in the SGFC on foil.
Also, I don't have a humidity or temperature gauge so I'm not quite sure if they are correct. What would be the signs of too low humidity and or temp? The SGFC is made right but when I've opened it to fan and mist it hasn't always felt that humid in there. My room is about 60-70 degree F and pretty low RH. What could I do to raise humidity and or temp?
Edited by dormroomdevient (03/05/18 04:02 PM)
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00Burnout
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Did you dunk that cake with shroom on it after you broke it off or was that post 2nd dunk? Also, when you dunk it should be 24 hours and the cakes should have been birthed first, don't dunk the whole jar. You won't properly rehydrate the cake if you dunk in the jar.
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tryptkaloids
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dormroomdevient said: I dunked all the cakes for 6 hours 3 days ago because I was paranoid because they do look dry. But 1 of the cake was growing 1 shroom b4 I broke it off on accident lol. It just doesn't really make sense to me because I waited a week after colonization and then dunked 12 hours in the half-pint jars then I rolled in verm and put in the SGFC on foil.
Also, I don't have a humidity or temperature gauge so I'm not quite sure if they are correct. What would be the signs of too low humidity and or temp? The SGFC is made right but when I've opened it to fan and mist it hasn't always felt that humid in there. My room is about 60-70 degree F and pretty low RH. What could I do to raise humidity and or temp?
Are you misting these cakes? It doesn't need to make sense. They will fruit on their own schedule, there is no set time period.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25040968 - 03/05/18 04:53 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Have you rehydrated your perilite? A month seems like a long time.. It may have dried out
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tryptkaloids
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25040972 - 03/05/18 04:54 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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00Burnout said:don't dunk the whole jar. You won't properly rehydrate the cake if you dunk in the jar.
Where are you pulling this from, your ass? Mycelium is better at moving water than gravity...
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Leftfield420]
#25040977 - 03/05/18 04:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yup perlite has been rehydrated. And yea I was suspecting that dunking in the jars was the culprit. The shroom broke off then I dunked again after that. Should I dunk once more for 24hr this time? Yes, I am misting 4 times a day.
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25041054 - 03/05/18 05:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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00Burnout said:don't dunk the whole jar. You won't properly rehydrate the cake if you dunk in the jar.
Where are you pulling this from, your ass? Mycelium is better at moving water than gravity...
Do you honestly believe a fully colonized cake is going to fully rehydrate in a container that is 3/4 of the way closed in only a day, or in this case half a day? If it works just as good don't you think we'd be dunking in the jar to avoid handling it more than necessary?
I'm getting this from common sense, an abosrbent object will hydrate quicker if it comes in full contact with the water rather than just one surface. I could be wrong, and if I am please explain to me why we birth then dunk, rather than dunk before, besides the cake possibly being more difficult to remove due to them expanding.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25041215 - 03/05/18 06:03 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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We birth first if we are going to fruit them open. Last time I did cakes I top fruited them and never birthed, your theory of surface area is solid but there is WAY more surface area that you can comprehend on one face of any given sub, you seem to forget we are dealing with a microscopic network that specializes in moving water and nutrients. I've seen some tcs saying they don't even dunk for 12 hours, that is grain spawn though
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25041222 - 03/05/18 06:06 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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So are the cakes properly hydrated then?
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25041244 - 03/05/18 06:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: We birth first if we are going to fruit them open. Last time I did cakes I top fruited them and never birthed, your theory of surface area is solid but there is WAY more surface area that you can comprehend on one face of any given sub, you seem to forget we are dealing with a microscopic network that specializes in moving water and nutrients. I've seen some tcs saying they don't even dunk for 12 hours, that is grain spawn though 
 I've never even thought to dunk grain spawn, sounds like a huge pita imho.
I need to do some more research on the microscopic end of mycology.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25041248 - 03/05/18 06:17 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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franks has a writeup on dunking grains before spawning to bulk
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00Burnout
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: thelanzii]
#25041257 - 03/05/18 06:19 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm, I just might have to give it a read.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: 00Burnout]
#25041292 - 03/05/18 06:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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It was real big around here a few years back. I tried it, didn't notice enough improvement to keep doing it.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: grainbrain]
#25041372 - 03/05/18 07:16 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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My dunk method is to fill a 5 gallon bucket about half way. Then I birth my cakes and drop em in the bucket. I then take another bucket and fill it around a 1/4 to 1/3 full. Then just put it on top of the bucket full of cakes. Just enough to weigh down the cakes and not have water spill out from the bottom bucket with the cakes in it. Otherwise they bob around like apples. This way they are fully submerged.
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van hatton
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: RomeoPapa]
#25041553 - 03/05/18 08:30 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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If your subs at field capacity and your grain prep was good should be no reason to rehydrate grains.
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hamloaf
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: van hatton]
#25041555 - 03/05/18 08:33 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Having the wherewithal to dunk grains is a useful tool if climate is extremely arid.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#25041592 - 03/05/18 08:56 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: hamloaf]
#25041655 - 03/05/18 09:31 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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hamloaf said: Having the wherewithal to dunk grains is a useful tool if climate is extremely arid.
Not the case in my area usually, but you never know when a nasty dry spell can hit.
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